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"Let me tell you something, Diana," says Burkman. "This guy shut the country down. He put 40 million people out of work. In a situation like that, you have to make up whatever you have to make up to stop that train and that's the way life works, OK? That's the way it goes.
Ten days later, the woman reached out to journalist Nancy Rommelman to say she was really named Diana Andrade, that she had been romantically involved with Jacob Wohl, and that she’d received five figures in cash from him and Burkman to say she had been assaulted by Fauci. “The reality is that I’ve known Jacob since 2018 and that he charmed me into taking money to do this (see attached picture of us together),” she wrote. She also said that she believed the notorious pair are “trying to get another girl to do it, too,” and had asked her if she knew anyone.
originally posted by: ColoradoJens
But really, how easy is it to wreck a career? Everyone on both sides of the political isle should be nervous about this.
originally posted by: JIMC5499
a reply to: ColoradoJens
You have the manure part right.
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: ColoradoJens
I hadn't heard of either of these two until this OP. Hadn't even heard of any sexual assault allegations against Fauci.
But regardless, isn't the real problem those who would condemn someone for unsubstantiated charges? People can make whatever claims they want to make. People can believe whatever they want to believe. It's not a problem until actions are taken against someone with no evidence or proof. And even then, it's those manipulating the law and the process who are the bigger problem.
In other words, the ones with power who use that power for illegitimate purposes.
It's not a problem until actions are taken against someone with no evidence or proof.
It's not a problem until actions are taken against someone with no evidence or proof.
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: ColoradoJens
It's not a problem until actions are taken against someone with no evidence or proof.
Let me be more specific... legal action... or any official action.
As already stated, I never even heard of these allegations against Fauci... but I sure heard about the allegations against Kavanaugh. In both cases, we are talking about unsubstantiated allegations.
Why did I hear about one ad nauseum and not the other? Why were the allegations against Kavanaugh forced into hearings at the highest level of government? Who is responsible for that?
But regardless, isn't the real problem those who would condemn someone for unsubstantiated charges?
If a lawyer is dumb enough to take legal action with no substantiated evidence, they will most likely lose.
originally posted by: Serdgiam
I think we are seeing the foundations being built for a new type of "justice" system. One that has little to no legal restrictions or requirements, but all the social consequences.
It is comprised of accusations (baseless or not) that are given weight and awareness through Approved Authorities and Sources.
This has largely been used against "the right," but is certainly an agnostic framework.
Basically, anyone can make any accusations they want, but only "approved" accusations will be given the weight needed to have meaningful impact in social, economic, etc. consequences for the individual(s). Veracity is irrelevant.
originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Serdgiam
The bigger question and concern I think would by why it works so well.
Roberta Kaplan
Kaplan is a co-founder of the Time’s Up Legal Defense Fund, and has been a leading advocate for women in the #MeToo era. It is startling to find her, on p. 116, accompanying Weinstein to a meeting at the Times building. Kaplan was there to defend Weinstein from an entirely different scandal, in which the amfAR AIDS charity had agreed to help reimburse investors in a Weinstein musical. Kaplan, a well-known crusader on gay rights issues, told the Times reporters that their story would hurt AIDS patients, according to the book. Kaplan issued a statement clarifying her role: “Rodgin Cohen of Sullivan & Cromwell asked me to be part of a conversation regarding the AMFAR controversy. Since I was not adequately briefed on the specifics of the transaction, I explained that the only thing I could talk about was the challenging fundraising environment for HIV/AIDS organizations like AMFAR, which I knew well as a longtime member of the Board of GMHC, the oldest AIDS services organization in the country. At that time, I was completely unaware of the serious sexual assault, abuse and harassment committed by Harvey Weinstein or that it was then being investigated by the NYT and others. Had I known then what I know now, I never would have agreed to meet with Harvey Weinstein.”
The TIME’S UP Legal Defense Fund was started by women in Hollywood who were moved by the outpouring of support from the Alianza Nacional de Campesinas, a national farmworker women’s organization. These actresses and activists wanted to show solidarity with survivors of sexual harassment, assault, abuse and related retaliation in all industries — especially low-income women and people of color. They worked together in a historic first to design a structure that would be both inclusive and effective.
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: ColoradoJens
OH Man.. Thank you for this thread Colorado. The article was interesting and the expose of these two guys was incredible.
The article mentions that they also tried to defame Elizabeth Warren with allegations of sexual impropriety for hiring an ''escort'' for sado masochistic sexual encounters.
Here is the video of their press conference to smear Warren. I would offer highlights but that might detract from the whold gestalt , the whole ambiance of their attempt.
Another funny thing here is that these two clowns expected to be taken seriously. For almost half an hour they stood there trying to keep straight faces though the laughter of the ''press'' that had showed up. . Brazen.
At a hilariously ill-conceived press event, which featured a TV screen on a table, displaying the incredible graphic, “Elizabeth Warren Cougar?” Burkman and Wohl disseminated a“bombshell” document containing accusations by a man named Kelvin Whelly, who actually showed up to the event, unlike other “witnesses” of Wohl’s in the past. The document claimed that Whelly met Warren on “COWBOYS4ANGELS,” which bills itself as “a site for attractive young men who provide companionship escort services to well-heeled women,” and that, in August of 2018, Warren flew him to Massachusetts, where met her at a Hilton Hotel in Woburn. He also claimed, with no evidence, that she asked him to participate in BDSM play, and told him “You wouldn’t believe how many studs like you show up to the Congressional retreats.”