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originally posted by: olaru12
originally posted by: Jay-morris
a reply to: olaru12
But.....
He's not silenced there are plenty of platforms he can access to spread his message. I'll wager he would be welcomed on ATS as long as he kept the T&C.
They even let that moron Tom deLong on ATS to essentially say Nothing.
This all comes down to the fact that you do not lime him, or do not care about what he says.
BS, I own all his books and have read them all. I find some of his theories interesting and some just crazy BS he uses for shock value to keep his fans interested. Just like Alex Jones. If Icke wants to flavor his theories with Lime, that's his choice. I don't want to silence him. I find him entertaining. Perhaps he needs to move on to some "gay frogs" scenario's like the master of all things CT...AJ. I don't want Alex silenced either.
originally posted by: Jay-morris
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
Im still trying to figure out why people think Facebook is so important and is some great platform to spread information.
It started as a hook up site, then turned into some vanity contest and now somehow is viewed as the great information suppository, the youth use other platforms now anyways, Facebook is for us aging folk.
To say ike is being silenced because he is booted from Facebook is like saying he's being starved because he's been banned from MacDonalds.
It's not just facebook. His page was deleted on YouTube, and chances are, he will be deleted on Twitter. Why is this important? Because billions of people use these platforms. So they are trying to cut him off. Over two billion people use facebook alone!
That is why it's so important.
Youtube as well, ok so he was also banned from subway, so that's subway and MacDonalds.
Billions of people also use those eateries.
I guess the point I'm making is if you're getting your information from YouTube and Facebook it's about as healthy as a diet of subway and MacDonalds.
My point is clear. Why does a "private company" give in to outside sources to ban him? This is a weak excuse to try and justify freedom of speech being shut down.
The definition of private ownership in the dictionary is the fact of being owned by a private individual or organization, rather than by the state or a public body.
The point is it's unhealthy to have a diet of MacDonalds and subways, it's ok to consume every now and again but do it too much it will rot your brain.
If I want to read one of his books I can go out and buy it and read it, if I want to watch his interviews I can go to his website and watch them all day, he's not being silenced.
originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Jay-morris
My point is clear. Why does a "private company" give in to outside sources to ban him? This is a weak excuse to try and justify freedom of speech being shut down.
Thanks for making my point for me. You don't see the problem with what you are saying here?
Icke has his own site, does he not? I can access it from here no problem. He wants money. It's his business just like Facebook is not his business, and they are in it to make money also.
Just like a store can chose what it does and does not sell, Facebook can chose what it will and will not allow to be posted.
The definition of private ownership in the dictionary is the fact of being owned by a private individual or organization, rather than by the state or a public body.
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Only the government can take away freedom of speech by limiting it. Icke can start a thousand sites if he wants, he can even start his own version of Facebook if he wants. See how that works?
Is it your choice though to eat at these places? Is it your choice and right to eat at these places every day if you want to?
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Jay-morris
Is it your choice though to eat at these places? Is it your choice and right to eat at these places every day if you want to?
Yes it's my choice, I can choose to eat what I want and watch and read what want. I don't have a choice however to go MacDonalds or subway and demand pizza.
To address the rest of your post just because millions of people eat MacDonalds doesn't make it nescassarry for everyone to eat it, again it's a choice and luckily in a mostly free society I get to enjoy making my own choices.
My anology makes sense to me, sorry if you're not grasping it, as far as why Facebook and youtube kicked him off is none of my business and bears no impact at all on my ability to watch or listen to David ike.
To address your last paragraph private companies absolutely can do what they like and can you provide any proof of your assertation they were clearly pressured because I'm not seeing it.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Jay-morris
You don't seem to understand that he isn't being silenced either.
Well ike is old news so perhaps the owners simply don't want him on their platform,
or perhaps they know their subscribers are really gullible and feel they have a duty of care to protect them from themselves.
Of course less people will just come accross him, times change and platforms like Facebook and youtube are simply changing with the times to remain viable into the future, where you see nefarious gain i see the natural progression of this corporate world.