Death of man to fish tank cleaner now being investigited as a murder by anti-Trump Democrat wife

a reply to: trollz

And some people say Trump derangement syndrome isn't real... SMH

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: trollz

Was the husband a Trump supporter or just collateral damage (if she did do this on purpose and without his knowledge)?

She has a history of being a piece of work. They met at John Deere where she left the company and reportedly sued over claims of corporate misogyny or something, and then claimed mental illness to the point where she could not even hear or see the company logo without feeling anger.

Her husband was an engineer for the company. So he was science literate and should know the difference between hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine phosphate. Making it through engineering would give one at least enough science literacy to know that.

The woman also had a long history of other mental illnesses. I'm not sure why the guy stayed with her as long as he did, but it may have killed him in the end especially as it seems every one of his pension checks would be a potential mental illness trigger. After all, he's going to be receiving John Deere mail for the rest of his life. Oh, I mean he was; now she will be if he has a pension because those things usually transfer to the widow.

originally posted by: ketsuko
it seems every one of his pension checks would be a potential mental illness trigger. After all, he's going to be receiving John Deere mail for the rest of his life. Oh, I mean he was; now she will be if he has a pension because those things usually transfer to the widow.

I'm wondering if there wasn't also a big life insurance payout in it for her.

a reply to: vonclod

Yes, she was according to reports at the time.

(CNN)A Phoenix-area man is dead and his wife is under critical care after the two took chloroquine phosphate in an apparent attempt to self-medicate for the novel coronavirus, according to hospital system Banner Health.

She was in ''critical care'' so even if she had done this as a cover it would have been a very dramatic alibi.

Sure she should be investigated because of allegations and in an investigation of a death spouses are often prime suspects.

The OP is laid out simply making the frame of her guilt highly probable. However, the information laid out does not include the information that she took it as well and was in ''critical care'' because of it.

Interesting side not though. Did you notice how the OP garnered stars and flags off the while and your post with that very relevant piece of information received only one?

a reply to: ketsuko

What is corporate misogyny?

I'm unfamiliar with that phrase. Glass ceiling??

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

The fact that she, too, was poisoned doesn't necessarily mitigate the possibility of a crime. She could have simply misjudged the dosage she thought necessary, and got sick/poisoned as a result... Of course, that applies to the deceased, as well.

There seems to be only two choices here:

1) Murder.

2) Accident.

Everything else seems to fall into those two broad areas. Feel free to point out another possibility that might not fall into these.

a reply to: seagull

3) Darwin?

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: ketsuko

What is corporate misogyny?

I'm unfamiliar with that phrase. Glass ceiling??

A corporate atmosphere hostile to women? I don't know. Ah ... "gender and age discrimination" according to this source. She claimed it was so bad seeing a John Deere sign triggered PTSD.

originally posted by: FamCore
a reply to: trollz

Was the husband a Trump supporter or just collateral damage (if she did do this on purpose and without his knowledge)?

It doesn't matter... Many operate by buying the news and selling a rumor.

Reality is Darwin awards are handed out to people of all ideologies.

Recently there's been an uptick in stories about an increase of hospital admissions do to chemical toxicity. Many try correlating this with Trumps dumb slip about injecting. But, as we all know, correlation doesn't equal causation. Those admissions have been going up since early March, well before the gaff. Logic would say it's more likely circumstances have more people using cleaning products, which would naturally have more mishaps.

That logical fallacy has been seen in many areas though. I've been seeing a whole bunch of 5g theories showing where 5g is in relation to COVID hot spots. Never mind that 5g is only in, you guessed it, densely populated areas.... And some hot spot areas have no 5g.

Its the world we live in.

a reply to: seagull

It has to be one of the two because the claim is the her husband knew what he was drinking.

Either he really was stupid enough to think it would cure him, or she told him it was hydroxychloroquine or some other thing that basically gave him no clue what he was actually drinking which would potentially take it into manslaughter territory at most.

Or she knew what she was doing all the time and drank herself to allay his suspicions, and accidentally dosed herself more than she intended. I'm pretty sure she's not a practice poisoner.

originally posted by: trollz

Maybe she did, I don't know. But that doesn't mean his death wasn't a murder. Murder-suicides are a thing.

She gives herself a small amount and her husband gets a big amount. If they drank the same I would think with her most likely smaller body she would have had a better chance to die.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Why would a never-Trumper take medical advice from Trump? Furthermore, why would a never-Trumper take crazy advice from Trump when Trump never gave said advice. The only good that comes out of it is she loses a husband she hated and got to blame the President.
I seriously doubt that she ingested the substance herself. More likely that she told them she did and they held her for observation.

a reply to: seagull

Yes, she might have poisoned herself as well but as I commented that is a pretty far fetched supposition.

And yes, either murder or stupid accident. We are all sleuthing here on limited information is my main point, not enough info to arrive at a verdict until the investigations are concluded and brought to our attention.

originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: trollz

And some people say Trump derangement syndrome isn't real... SMH

It's not real. Keep the petty & lazy dismissals in the mud pit. SMH.

And I'm so sure their marriage had no problems at all before this.

originally posted by: okrian

originally posted by: KawRider9
a reply to: trollz

And some people say Trump derangement syndrome isn't real... SMH

It's not real. Keep the petty & lazy dismissals in the mud pit. SMH.

And I'm so sure their marriage had no problems at all before this.

In this case the TDS is applied to the press who all jumped on this story as clear evidence that the president claimed that hydroxychloroquine was a possible treatment and therefore sweet little retirees ran out and bought aquarium cleaner to drink and died and it was TRUMP'S FAULT.

It's just like the press is running with the "clear uptick in bleach poisoning" stories and blaming that on Trump's remarks when, as has been pointed out, those increases have been going on since March and the advent of COVID measures and not since Trump said anything.

Isn't there a law against stupidity like this? There should be. Pelosi has sent a dangerous precedent eating Tide pods in public.

originally posted by: mtnshredder
Isn't there a law against stupidity like this? There should be. Pelosi has sent a dangerous precedent eating Tide pods in public.

Please. No.

We have laws against stupidity like that, and it's why so many of us are currently stuck inside sitting on our butts. We have to save teh stupid from themselves.

a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

Well,,,,,,,,sure. She might have been a totally conniving bitch and concocted this whole thing to do him in and blame it on Trump. Sure. And the investigations will bring out the facts rather than the loose speculations that are floating around now.

If she WAS in ''critical care'' then do you think it reasonable to suppose that she was under heavy duty medical care? That here vitals were constantly checked and that she was checked out for just what was and what was not in her body? Could she have just made it up? Wouldn't the doctors have noted that while she was in ''critical care''?

Sure, she may be bat $hit crazy and still smart enough to dose herself just enough to not die while dosing him enough to push him over the edge? I dunno man, just to many inconsistencies in this new perspective for me to judge.

Let's chat again once all the evidence has been brought forth by the police investigation.

a reply to: trollz

I could murder a fish supper.

But if the Man knew what he was drinking and why the only thing the woman is guilty of is being an accessory to extreme stupidity.

a reply to: trollz

I had a hard time taking the story at face value when it happened, and also the reports of adults calling Poison Control about drinking bleach. Anyone can call Poison Control, but that, alone, doesn't prove they really drank bleach.