Covid-19 testing stealing your DNA?

I was just browsing around the web and saw a news article saying that in SE Texas they are going to start Covid-19 testing for asymptomatic people. So the subject comes up between the hubs and me about WHY they would need to test people with little or no symptoms. Being of a conspiratorial mindset for some reason this popped into my head:

What if they are using Covid-19 testing as a way to get DNA samples from those of us who refuse to submit one voluntarily through various DNA tests?

I know, I know... a little far fetched, but not outside the realm of possibility. I think if nothing else this virus had taught us all that our governments can't be trusted as far as we can pick them up and throw them. That's the exact reason a whole lot of us refuse to give a DNA sample. We've seen that they are using the samples in manners outside of the parameters they were given for already, so why WOULDN'T they use this opportunity to get samples from those who would not give one voluntarily?

Testing for Covid-19 antibodies to "prove" you can be "allowed" to safely work (and it's coming) could just be an excuse.

Just a thought that maybe some of you might like to chew on.

a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

It's more so to get an idea of the real numbers of people who have had the virus and recovered than making little monkey hybrids of us all in a test tube somewhere.

By doing this extensively they are already finding that exponentially more people have had the virus and recovered from it than is reported which is good news as it means the mortality rate is significantly lower than we have been led to believe.

a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

Not really concerned with monkey hybrids. There has been a lot of underhanded mess going down with this virus and while your asserted reasons would be the main, publicly given reason there would be nothing to prevent them from entering our DNA sequences into a database as a "bonus" of the whole operation.

When I just listen to our governor of the state of Kentucky dance around the question of rather or not every death is being labeled covid related, we all need testing and beat into our heads to take the census, makes you wonder . Are they using this to test as many people as they can to see who is susceptible and who is not, to track people and people are ok with it now. Like the dna testing kit, 24 and me, which was heavily advertised, but non -exsistent now.

It's trial run for total control of the populous. Been doing it for years with the internet and social media, and we are all buying into it.

a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

To what end? What do you fear they will do with your DNA?

I dont trust the testing. Theres been a lot of duplicitousness around it from the start, from interchangeably saying "coronavirus tests" and "covid tests" to the nature of PCR testing.

Outside of hospitalizations, I dont see much of a need beyond maybe public perception. But.. That was a hole that was dug quite intentionally, going back to the whole "duplicitous" thing. ETA: well, it could also be a great platform for the DoublePlusGood Citizen Certificates

I also swear that Google, or Alphabet Inc, was involved in some broad DNA/Genome database as well as having some link through a subsidiary to some virus test kits, maybe even 23andme as well.

Trying to wade through that particular tangled mess for pertinent info will take someone more skilled than me though!

originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

To what end? What do you fear they will do with your DNA?

Fear? Those effers don't need my DNA, especially without my consent.
Why did Ancestry, 23 and Me and others give over DNA to the NSA?
What do THEY need it for?

a reply to: Serdgiam

I don't have the knowledge to delve into it either but thought that maybe someone around here might have a better knowledge of the lingo that might know what they're looking for.

originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

To what end? What do you fear they will do with your DNA?

Naive or a bot?

Of course, what would be much more troubling than getting someone’s heritage or hair color wrong is using that information to inform decisions made about that person. And as more people submit their DNA to genetic testing companies, and more law enforcement and government agencies figure out ways to use this deeply personal genetic information, it could be used against us. Making matters more concerning is that there are very few legal safeguards on what companies and governments can and can’t do with data gleaned from direct-to-consumer genetic tests.

“Under existing law it would be legal to very broadly share consumer information if you disclose that that was happening in the privacy policy and terms of service with the customer,” James Hazel, a research fellow at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, who has done research on genetics test privacy policies, told Recode. And companies don’t have to stick with existing privacy policies, either. “Nearly every company reserves the right to change their privacy policies at any time.”

www.vox.com...



Or you just don't care and become the sheep .

a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

Its not even so much about lingo..

Ive tried to really going into Google/Alphabet, Inc a few times, particularly recently and.. wow.

Even the publically available info is difficult to really wade through. Subsidiary after subsidiary, all doing much, much different things.

Its probably by design, imo, but Ill be damned if it doesnt work. My mind is just built for different things, so I spend my time there, but.. someone should probably look into it. We definitely have the types of folks that are great at it around here.

Hell, if there is some covert methods in collecting DNA, I have some questions. And over the past years, there has definitely been an over-the-top (imo) push for DNA testing in general.

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

Its not even so much about lingo..

Ive tried to really going into Google/Alphabet, Inc a few times, particularly recently and.. wow.

Even the publically available info is difficult to really wade through. Subsidiary after subsidiary, all doing much, much different things.

Its probably by design, imo, but Ill be damned if it doesnt work. My mind is just built for different things, so I spend my time there, but.. someone should probably look into it. We definitely have the types of folks that are great at it around here.

Hell, if there is some covert methods in collecting DNA, I have some questions. And over the past years, there has definitely been an over-the-top (imo) push for DNA testing in general.

They can and possibly use it against you. DNA mining ......


www.nbcnews.com...

DNA tests have been around for a few decades now, and if the government really wants to catalog people ala Hitler style, they would have begun many years ago on every single newborn. Did they? How would we know?

Once chips are small enough to be injectable and undetectable, how would a new parent know whether their infant had been chipped or not?

Police can now take DNA from anybody they arrest. There doesn't seem to be a reason to believe covid testing is for gather DNA, in my mind. The government pretty much has all the information they need on us already, between cell phones and social media.

originally posted by: Groot


Naive or a bot?

Settle down champ, I just question vague paranoia. I don't particularly want anyone collecting my DNA either and think the whole ancestry.com and NSA link is a bit dodgy.

But you don't need to jump at every single shadow. Sometimes things are just a test for antibodies.

I've still had no clear answer on exactly what they are doing with your DNA either. Let me guess......the reptilian overlords feed your blood to their young?

They could use your DNA to figure out why it did not effect you much and use the dna of someone who had a bad disease to figure out what the difference is in these two groups. If they were to not link it to the person and destroy the sample, it would not make any difference. But we know that may not be the case. I just ran the ACE2 gene app on my ancestry data, but there was not enough of the snps collected to figure if I am susceptable or not. The two that were collected out of six snps making up the genset is not enough to tell me anything. Two greens, rest NC which means not collected.

Yes, if the government collects your blood they could do that, but whether they are running our DNA I do not know. One drop of blood is all that is needed for that test, and if the sample is not preserved quickly, it will fall apart. So I highly doubt if they are doing that. You need about a quarter ounce of blood and it has to be preserved quickly not a drop on a test strip.,

a reply to: rickymouse

Well there you go.....thank you for some logic instead of vague, paranoid panic. Aka sheep flock mentality.

a reply to: rickymouse

Yes, if the government collects your blood they could do that, but whether they are running our DNA I do not know. One drop of blood is all that is needed for that test, and if the sample is not preserved quickly, it will fall apart. So I highly doubt if they are doing that. You need about a quarter ounce of blood and it has to be preserved quickly not a drop on a test strip.,

Since the testing for Covid-19 is free I'm assuming that means the govt is paying for it, and at least the testing here (swab way up into the sinuses) is immediately put into a preservative that supposedly kills the virus but preserves the cells without contamination. Since DNA tests use cells from inside the cheek I would think cells from deep inside the nose would suffice as well and with the govt paying for the testing who knows what else may be happening besides a virus test.

originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
a reply to: rickymouse

Well there you go.....thank you for some logic instead of vague, paranoid panic. Aka sheep flock mentality.

You do realize this site is founded on conspiracy theories, right?

a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

Yes, but also challenging them not just blindly accepting them because they're an alternative narrative to the mainstream point of view.

Blindly accepting alternative theories and perspectives is as bad as doing the same with that coming from the mainstream. In fact, I trust most conspiracy theorists about as much as I do the MSM.

I've been a member here since 2010 (old account I can no longer access) though thanks for the groundbreaking info.

originally posted by: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk
a reply to: rickymouse

Yes, if the government collects your blood they could do that, but whether they are running our DNA I do not know. One drop of blood is all that is needed for that test, and if the sample is not preserved quickly, it will fall apart. So I highly doubt if they are doing that. You need about a quarter ounce of blood and it has to be preserved quickly not a drop on a test strip.,

Since the testing for Covid-19 is free I'm assuming that means the govt is paying for it, and at least the testing here (swab way up into the sinuses) is immediately put into a preservative that supposedly kills the virus but preserves the cells without contamination. Since DNA tests use cells from inside the cheek I would think cells from deep inside the nose would suffice as well and with the govt paying for the testing who knows what else may be happening besides a virus test.

you are correct with that assumption, the test for the virus up your nose could be used, but probably not the antigen test. Plus, that goes to a big lab many times.

originally posted by: Groot

originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM
a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

To what end? What do you fear they will do with your DNA?

Naive or a bot?

Of course, what would be much more troubling than getting someone’s heritage or hair color wrong is using that information to inform decisions made about that person. And as more people submit their DNA to genetic testing companies, and more law enforcement and government agencies figure out ways to use this deeply personal genetic information, it could be used against us. Making matters more concerning is that there are very few legal safeguards on what companies and governments can and can’t do with data gleaned from direct-to-consumer genetic tests.

“Under existing law it would be legal to very broadly share consumer information if you disclose that that was happening in the privacy policy and terms of service with the customer,” James Hazel, a research fellow at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, who has done research on genetics test privacy policies, told Recode. And companies don’t have to stick with existing privacy policies, either. “Nearly every company reserves the right to change their privacy policies at any time.”

www.vox.com...

Or you just don't care and become the sheep .

OP gives the reason for why they'd want your dna two posts above this one as "fear" but the only fearmongering i'm seeing is these really vague, allusory claims that as far as i can tell can only resolve as far as They Could Maybe Possibly Figure Out Something Real Bad To Do If They Wanted To And I Bet They Want To.

And like, i'm not too hot on people like ancestry 23 and their ilk and i am cagey about ALL figures of authority buuuuut it seems real odd that the thrust here seems to be "they want us to be scared! ....let's undermine that by being terrified!"