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The Myth Of A Rapid Economic Recovery Once Quarentines Are Lifted

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posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:43 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
If they are out of work.then they are certainly a lower earner then. Makes the point about a proper social safety net even better thank you.

What happens when there are not enough high earners to pay for the living expenses of the low earners?

This is the problem with ism...



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:45 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Agreed!! Whole-heartedly, even.

But don't count on it.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:49 PM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

...and who, pray, is going to pay for this social net??

When many/most of the tax paying folks are not working, thus unable to pay those taxes that fund the social net??

As for the no general shortage of food?? The operative word, at this point in time, is "yet"...



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:51 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
And still not a general food shortage.


Degrees of government-manufactured hardship are now being measured by you.

Thankfully it's not 'general' but only confined to the numerous places in those articles all over the United States.

Once again, good job reading prior to commenting.




edit on 13-4-2020 by AugustusMasonicus because: networkdude has no beer because Q indicted it



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: ScepticScot
If they are out of work.then they are certainly a lower earner then. Makes the point about a proper social safety net even better thank you.

What happens when there are not enough high earners to pay for the living expenses of the low earners?

This is the problem with ism...


What happens when there enough charity donations to keep food banks going?

And unlike private individuals the ability of government to provide expands in economic downturns.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:52 PM
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originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: ScepticScot

...and who, pray, is going to pay for this social net??

When many/most of the tax paying folks are not working, thus unable to pay those taxes that fund the social net??

As for the no general shortage of food?? The operative word, at this point in time, is "yet"...


See above.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:53 PM
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There are food shortages for some folks, in certain areas of the country.
From the sources provided earlier...

Local news channels broadcast seemingly never-ending lines of cars filled with hungry families, many of whom are sent home when the food bank runs out o


The San Antonio Food Bank is in dire need of monetary donations and volunteers as demand on its food stock has doubled during the COVID-19 outbreak.


More than 900 people showed up at the church parking lot where the group had moved its operations to accommodate social distancing, but the pantry only had food for the first 330 in line.


This is true locally (about an hour or so away).


The food bank’s warehouse has roughly six weeks of supplies, but there are concerns about what’s next.

WATE

We, where I live, are being encouraged to buy items at 2 to 1. Two for ourselves and one for charity. We prefer one to one.

It's put a terrible strain on a already strained (at times) system.
edit on 13-4-2020 by TNMockingbird because: too many exes



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:53 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: ScepticScot
And still not a general food shortage.


Degrees of government-manufactured hardship are now being measured by you.


You claimed food shortages would lead to anarchy.

Still not seen any evidence of food shortages beyond short term affect of panic buying. Zero anarchy (or at least no more than normal).



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:55 PM
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originally posted by: ScepticScot
You claimed food shortages would lead to anarchy.


You referring to my conversation with the other poster?

Still not seen any evidence of food shortages beyond short term affect of panic buying. Zero anarchy (or at least no more than normal).


Most likely because you haven't read the articles. But at this point I don't expect you too.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: ScepticScot
You claimed food shortages would lead to anarchy.


You referring to my conversation with the other poster?

Still not seen any evidence of food shortages beyond short term affect of panic buying. Zero anarchy (or at least no more than normal).


Most likely because you haven't read the articles. But at this point I don't expect you too.


The articles about food banks....

Think we have covered that.



posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

  • Entertainment $200



  • Was that 200 in one dollar denomination?



    posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:04 PM
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    originally posted by: ScepticScot

    originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

    originally posted by: ScepticScot
    And still not a general food shortage.


    Degrees of government-manufactured hardship are now being measured by you.


    You claimed food shortages would lead to anarchy.

    Still not seen any evidence of food shortages beyond short term affect of panic buying. Zero anarchy (or at least no more than normal).


    That was my post. And I was not referring to intermittent shortages. I was referring to starvation and the unavailability of food.

    I know you don't like to read, but try "9 meals to Anarchy"
    edit on 13-4-2020 by olaru12 because: (no reason given)



    posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:09 PM
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    originally posted by: olaru12

    originally posted by: ScepticScot

    originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

    originally posted by: ScepticScot
    And still not a general food shortage.


    Degrees of government-manufactured hardship are now being measured by you.


    You claimed food shortages would lead to anarchy.

    Still not seen any evidence of food shortages beyond short term affect of panic buying. Zero anarchy (or at least no more than normal).


    That was my post. And I was not referring to intermittent shortages. I was referring to starvation and the unavailable of food.

    I know you don't like to read, but try "9 meals to Anarchy"


    No it was Augustus post on page 5.

    I do like to read, I just don't believe every bit of bull# I read just because it agrees with a pre conceived world view.



    posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:13 PM
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    originally posted by: Kenzo

    The killer pandemic....

    FROM THE NUMBERS: Only 150 Americans to Date With No Pre-Existing Conditions Have Died From the Coronavirus or 0.9%


    Are the ones with pre existing conditions less dead?



    posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:15 PM
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    originally posted by: ScepticScot
    The articles about food banks....

    Think we have covered that.


    If things continue in that vein lines will be the least of our concerns.



    posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:15 PM
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    originally posted by: Xtrozero
    Was that 200 in one dollar denomination?


    What kind of strip clubs you think I go to? The ones with the free buffet?


    You're right....



    posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:19 PM
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    originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

    originally posted by: Xtrozero
    Was that 200 in one dollar denomination?


    What kind of strip clubs you think I go to? The ones with the free buffet?


    You're right....


    There is strip clubs with a buffet???

    I retract everything I previously said, end the lock down now!!!



    posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:28 PM
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    ...and when there isn't enough for me to be charitable, because I don't have enough for me?? It's reached that point for far too many, already.

    What then??

    Odds are very good that it won't reach that point, but given the level of hysteria, it wouldn't overly surprise me, either.

    I am, after all, something of a pessimist



    posted on Apr, 13 2020 @ 02:32 PM
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    originally posted by: seagull
    a reply to: ScepticScot

    ...and when there isn't enough for me to be charitable, because I don't have enough for me?? It's reached that point for far too many, already.

    What then??

    Odds are very good that it won't reach that point, but given the level of hysteria, it wouldn't overly surprise me, either.

    I am, after all, something of a pessimist


    That is exactly my point. We can't rely on charity as a safety net as during economic downturns people's capacity to be charitable decrease.

    There is no lock down on food production, distribution or retail. The impact is from panic buying and sickness. Both of which would be much worse without the lockdown.



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