Corona Virus Updates Part 6

Oh my gosh that article is shocking

“It does seem surprising that these tests were bought with a contract that wasn’t contingent on their usability,” Clark told the Observer. “In learning lessons through this crisis, it’s important for future contracts to recognise this risk.”

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Kathy Hall, director of Covid-19 testing strategy at the Department for Health and Social Care, revealed last week that the government was working to recoup money paid for the tests “where possible”. Asked whether payment was made on the assumption that the devices worked, she said: “Our overall strategy was to secure tests in order to get them validated. That meant ordering minimum volumes in order to secure them. And we wanted to make sure we had the opportunity to do that, so that was the strategy we took, yes.”

So really we need to find out who we bought these stupid tests (and for how much) from and why there was no clause in the contract about functionality! I cannot fathom how these fools are running the country. They either are completely stupid or they are buying these tests of their mates to syphon taxpayers money to them. I'm thinking the latter because no one is that dumb right?!



a reply to: MonkeyBalls2

a reply to: cirrus12

A lot of people have been told to stay at home, and quite a few haven't made it to Hospital until it's too late to treat properly.
It's just a good indicator of the state the NHS is in now.
It should have had the proper funding, and not been run like a company.

France, Italy and Germany, have some of the best Medical Care in the World.
Cuba's is outstanding.

I don't mind paying taxes for it, it might save my life some time (and has already saved me from a Pneumothorax at 15).

Sending you a PM, with an example.

originally posted by: Irishhaf
So odd thoughts, shouldn't we be just as worried about our eyes as breathing in the virus? I seem to remember from chem warfare training that biological weapons could get in through eyes, ears, mouth, and any openings on the skin.

Could obviously be wildly off base, just a random thought as I left the commissary and some retired guy was giving the airmen at the door heck for not letting him in without a mask.

It's a respiratory virus. It can't get in via the digestive system, ears, eyes, or pores on the skin.

originally posted by: cirrus12
Oh my gosh that article is shocking

“It does seem surprising that these tests were bought with a contract that wasn’t contingent on their usability,” Clark told the Observer. “In learning lessons through this crisis, it’s important for future contracts to recognise this risk.”

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Kathy Hall, director of Covid-19 testing strategy at the Department for Health and Social Care, revealed last week that the government was working to recoup money paid for the tests “where possible”. Asked whether payment was made on the assumption that the devices worked, she said: “Our overall strategy was to secure tests in order to get them validated. That meant ordering minimum volumes in order to secure them. And we wanted to make sure we had the opportunity to do that, so that was the strategy we took, yes.”

So really we need to find out who we bought these stupid tests (and for how much) from and why there was no clause in the contract about functionality! I cannot fathom how these fools are running the country. They either are completely stupid or they are buying these tests of their mates to syphon taxpayers money to them. I'm thinking the latter because no one is that dumb right?!



a reply to: MonkeyBalls2

You'd like to think the people running the country aren't that dumb, but we might just be wrong.
France is going to have a Major inquiry into the whole Coronavirus crisis, and the Response.

The UK should do the same, and hold people responsible.
But when you look at how the Grenfell inquiry was done, hope vanishes pretty quick.
Most of us (around the world) are going to get the poo end of the stick...

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Irishhaf
So odd thoughts, shouldn't we be just as worried about our eyes as breathing in the virus? I seem to remember from chem warfare training that biological weapons could get in through eyes, ears, mouth, and any openings on the skin.

Could obviously be wildly off base, just a random thought as I left the commissary and some retired guy was giving the airmen at the door heck for not letting him in without a mask.

It's a respiratory virus. It can't get in via the digestive system, ears, eyes, or pores on the skin.

Your eyes are connected to your nose, iirc.
It would probably take liquid transfer though, not just floating particles wafting in the air.

a reply to: Agit8dChop
Thank you for all these updates and hard work, they are very informative .

And your lay out of the Pictures , graphs , and general information is very professional .

all in all very Impressive .

a reply to: Byrd

If it's only respiratory, was it in peoples stools?

originally posted by: Byrd
It's a respiratory virus. It can't get in via the digestive system, ears, eyes, or pores on the skin.

COVID-19 May Be Transmitted Through the Eye, Report Finds

A new report published by JAMA Ophthalmology found preliminary data may suggest severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), might be transmitted through the eye.

Researchers analyzed data from 38 patients infected with COVID-19 from Hubei Province, China, and found 12 (31.6%; 95% CI, 17.5%-48.7%) individuals had ocular manifestations, including epiphora, conjunctival congestion, or chemosis.

These symptoms commonly occur in patients with severe systemic manifestations of COVID-19 and are consistent with conjunctivitis, or pink eye.

They call it a respiratory virus, then say it might be transmitted through the eye.

You're probably right about it not transmitting through the skin, but you may be wrong about the eye. The expert from S. Korea said what this virus needs to transmit is a mucous membrane, which is not present on the skin, so he confirmed the skin can't transmit it.

This is the same expert from S. Korea video that was posted several times in part 5 of the updates thread. He talks about how the virus needs a mucous membrane for transmission:

You Need To Listen To This Leading COVID-19 Expert From South Korea

starting at 15 minutes in the video:
"You said the virus can infect you through your eyes. (If the virus can get in through your eyes, what's the point of wearing a mask?)

I mentioned eyes, nose and mouth because there are mucous membranes inside them.
These mucous membranes have a receptor called ACE2. The virus has to stick to those receptors. We don't have receptors on our skin. Our skin actually acts as a sort of barrier. The virus can't go through your ears"

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Irishhaf
So odd thoughts, shouldn't we be just as worried about our eyes as breathing in the virus? I seem to remember from chem warfare training that biological weapons could get in through eyes, ears, mouth, and any openings on the skin.

Could obviously be wildly off base, just a random thought as I left the commissary and some retired guy was giving the airmen at the door heck for not letting him in without a mask.

It's a respiratory virus. It can't get in via the digestive system, ears, eyes, or pores on the skin.

having contaminated hands and rubbing your eyes.. or an infected person accidentally coughs into doctors face

doctors try to wear a face shield for a reason

*shrugs* dont know for certain, but it makes sense to my ignorant butt that if I sneeze or cough the risk isn't just the virus in the air but it would I imagine ride on the fluid being expelled out of the body.

a reply to: Irishhaf

goes with any respiratory disease, a mask is like a perma tissue. proper sneezing and coughing etiquette isnt for looks.

a reply to: cirrus12



It IS Impossible ! Wake the Fook UP People !


tv.infowars.com...

a reply to: choos

Fluid can enter through the eyes, or any opening in the skin such as cuts, sores etc.

3 very interesting articles have recently been discussed about other symptoms/issues related to covid19

Blood clotting is becoming a big problems and this NY Doctor attempted a mix of blood clot busters on patients who were in very bad shape with some positive results. Could blood clotting in the brain or heart have caused those collapses in the streets? abcnews.go.com...

Chinese doctors were first to sound the alarm. In March, Chinese heart specialists advised the American College of Cardiology to watch for clots and said certain blood tests showing a rise in clot risk might signal which patients were in greatest danger. Other reports suggested the clots can show up all over the body. But were they a cause of deterioration or an effect?

another article where a group of dermatologists started raising the alarm over skin conditions, leasons and ulcers being signs of an infected patient www.sortiraparis.com...

Another skin sign of covid-19, still according to the press release, “the sudden outbreak of persisting red patches sometimes painful and mild urticaria lesions.”

With these skin lesions, the National Union of Dermatologists and Venereologists wishes to raise the alarm on contagion risks, “because these signs are not accompanied by pulmonary signs, these patients are potentially contagious and are potentially carrying and spreading the virus without knowing they are. This is a very important sign our peers should know of” dermatologists write in the press release.

and thirdly, loss of taste and smell www.abc.net.au...

A leading Australian ear, nose and throat surgeon has warned widely reported symptoms of loss of taste and smell in COVID-19 cases may linger long after some patients have recovered from the virus.

For nearly two weeks, rhinological and ENT bodies in both the UK and the US have been calling for anosmia to be added to the official lists of COVID-19 symptoms.

This virus does a job on your entire body. Some people who have recovered give concerning accounts.
Some describe the over all body pain as being hit by a car. Another described her lungs so heavy that it felt like someone was sitting on her chest, every time she took a breath. There's reports people become some weak they slowly pass out from lack of oxygen.. nasty nasty stuff

a reply to: Agit8dChop



Die From the Boogeyman Virus . or Die from lack of an Income and Eventually Face Starvation unless you Submit to Governmental Authority . ........CHOOSE SHEEP !

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Agit8dChop



Die From the Boogeyman Virus . or Die from lack of an Income and Eventually Face Starvation unless you Submit to Governmental Authority . ........CHOOSE SHEEP !

I’m guessing even the circus is closed down from the Coronavirus .

So it would seem that the virus attacks T cells and thus destroys the immune system. This virus looks deadly.

www.scmp.com...
Coronavirus could target immune system by targeting protective cells, warn scientists
Researchers in China and the US find that the virus that causes Covid-19 can destroy the T cells that are supposed to protect the body from harmful invaders
One doctor said concern is growing in medical circles that effect could be similar to HIV
The coronavirus that causes Covid-19 could kill the powerful immune cells that are supposed to kill the virus instead, scientists have warned.
The surprise discovery, made by a team of researchers from Shanghai and New York, coincided with frontline doctors’ observation that Covid-19 could attack the human immune system and cause damages similar to that found in HIV patients.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: Byrd
It's a respiratory virus. It can't get in via the digestive system, ears, eyes, or pores on the skin.

COVID-19 May Be Transmitted Through the Eye, Report Finds

A new report published by JAMA Ophthalmology found preliminary data may suggest severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), might be transmitted through the eye.

Researchers analyzed data from 38 patients infected with COVID-19 from Hubei Province, China, and found 12 (31.6%; 95% CI, 17.5%-48.7%) individuals had ocular manifestations, including epiphora, conjunctival congestion, or chemosis.

These symptoms commonly occur in patients with severe systemic manifestations of COVID-19 and are consistent with conjunctivitis, or pink eye.

They call it a respiratory virus, then say it might be transmitted through the eye.

You're probably right about it not transmitting through the skin, but you may be wrong about the eye. The expert from S. Korea said what this virus needs to transmit is a mucous membrane, which is not present on the skin, so he confirmed the skin can't transmit it. He didn't mention the eye but I believe that meets his stated criterion of having a mucous membrane; this is why I mentioned goggles in part 5, that people think masks are protecting them without wearing goggles, when in fact they might need goggles for more protection.

Remember the whistle blower in WuHan....he was an ophthalmologist.
Also, being an Aromatherapist, I would not be in the least bit surprised that this 'Thing' is also absorbed through the skin.

Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: MonkeyBalls2

I put a team of therapists together to treat the survivors and immediate families of the Grenfell Fire. I made friends with many of the firemen who we also gave free treatment to. I questioned the NHS representative at a scrutiny meeting about the Cyanide gas poisoning (amongst other chemicals). That experience taught me and the team a lot.
I appreciate a poisoning is different from a virus. But at the end of the day both poison and virus cause a reaction in the body.
I have maintained from the start of this, that this 'Thing' attaches itself to the nervous system through the olfactory system.....just like cyanide does.

Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: Agit8dChop

If I could have starred your post more than once I would have

Rainbows
Jane