Corona Virus Updates Part 6

Whenever you see doctors wearing their costumes standing in front of the capitol, you should definitely suspect it's more about politics than science. I'm surprised they weren't wearing their stethoscopes.

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More than 4 million people across swathes of northern England were given less than three hours’ notice on Thursday night that they must endure tighter lockdown restrictions to stem a resurgence of Covid-19 cases.

www.theguardian.com...

Oddly Greater Manchester is now in a lockdown again, even though daily deaths are low. New cases are creeping up, but then testing is up also, so that would make sense. What really matters to me is the severity - are all the new cases just people who are averagely ill with it, or is it hospital admissions? Our hospitals are not overrun, we have a backlog of work from the lockdown, but not overrun with Covid. It just seems a bit ridiculous. One of the rules is that you can only socialise with other members of your household. So you can all go to a restaurant. But you CANNOT go to a restaurant or pub with friends who live elsewhere. But surely when you go to a restaurant, many other households will be there!!!! It just makes no sense at this point.

One experience I had whilst shopping without a mask was that 2 shoppers actually confronted me in a sarcastic way 'ohhhh i thought we had to wear face masks' and someone else said 'yes, i thought we did' quite nastily. I just said i was exempt and don't appreciate being bulled... that shut them up. But what was interesting was that the policing of this is now coming from the people! It's just a weird world right now.

I was totally 'in' Covid at the beginning but i have really changed my mind about the severity of it. I just think for the majority of us, at the moment, it's not as dangerous as it was first made out to be. I think the measures are laughable, wearing masks when infections naturally dropped, strange rules in almost all shops/bars/anywhere indoors. The terrified people clutching their mask when you are within a couple of metres of them.. it's funny how we got here.
I can't forget that the temporary hospitals that were put up here in the UK were never used!! We didn't even need them.
Now we have huge industries decimated, what for?! So many shops near me have closed as well as cafes/restaurants. It's like a different place completely, it's horrible.

What is terrifying is the economic collapse which is being held off for now with stamp duty cuts and furlough... but when that ends I can't imagine what the UK will look like.

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It got up to 37°C in the shade here today, and our numbers are climbing again due to the good weather.
The heat isn't doing anything to slow the virus.

a reply to: cirrus12

Over here the 'Infected' numbers are going up too, but not Hospitalisations.
They are still on the decline, after a tiny blip of +1 thursday.

Vietnam is worried, we should keep an eye on whats happenning there, as it could be a worse strain.

Cases on the rise again in the UK. Not surprising considering the easing of too many restrictions, especially holidays abroad which should never have been lifted until this virus was no longer a problem. If people keep flying around, this virus will keep spreading, it's as simple as that.

The Economy can keep going without people holidaying abroad.

Also mass gatherings in places of Worship was abad idea to lift restrictions. People can do what they need to do at home.

Maybe the recent protests also has caused cases to rise again.

Anyway, new local lockdowns are occuring in the UK but I think we will go into a full lockdown again by September with a handful of businesses still being allowed to run.

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Your signature pretty much sums up the past couple of months in the U.K.

People taking holidays in a country heavily hit by Covid and then complaining about having to cut it short quarantine when they return. It’s as though the mass subconscious craves another full lockdown so they can complain about that too.

posted on Aug, 1 2020 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: hombero
You seem to claim expert status on a country you don't even live in. I try to avoid doing this, and arguably if anyone should claim to know America and not be American it's a Canadian and not a Japanese...

a reply to: musicismagic



Hi ATS members
I've been on the sideline for a bit and haven't posted much. You see all that I've been posting since around Feb 4 on my "street talk" is been real for many people here. I even mentioned about once tested positive and later negative, well, as I mentioned in them talks, that doesn't mean you are scott free, and as you know, the ST I posted was right.

I've laid off of posting here mainly because the corona virus for many around the world is not in their hip pocket. The fact of it is, its the opposite.

OK, for those that have been following me, first, thank you. For those that have posted my threads were a bit heavy, show me which ones that have not materialized and I will accept my wrong doing in posting such ST. I know one thing that I posted about thermal cameras on the task force of catching people with a temperature hasn't been wildly accepted other then in China, but you got to understand the business side of this. Its about money and profit and political connections on who gets the exclusive rights to sell it in your country. Don't like what I'm saying... Follow my post that states which company in China has developed them cameras.

Anyway, this is my street talk for people in certain countries (not all countries )
1. high prices due to recent and this summer's natural disasters (OK, I posted a bit back about flour, yes, America has lots of it, but this country of high grade flour is off the shelf). MrDonuts is closing many stores due to the virus, but is that the whole truth, fk no. Of course you all know about the aluminum can shortage in America by now.

If you want to know a bit about food prices here, I'll post now. 2 peaches 5 bucks watermelon 32 bucks grapes a bunch for about 19 bucks apples about 2.50 each carrots 3 for 2.50 USD and so on
Can you in your country afford them prices?

I can't . It is all due to the change of the weather patterns. Typhoon season will be among us and in America droughts and then sudden heavy rains and then the hurricans. Either way save this post ATS members.

originally posted by: cirrus12

More than 4 million people across swathes of northern England were given less than three hours’ notice on Thursday night that they must endure tighter lockdown restrictions to stem a resurgence of Covid-19 cases.

www.theguardian.com...

Oddly Greater Manchester is now in a lockdown again, even though daily deaths are low. New cases are creeping up, but then testing is up also, so that would make sense. What really matters to me is the severity - are all the new cases just people who are averagely ill with it, or is it hospital admissions? Our hospitals are not overrun, we have a backlog of work from the lockdown, but not overrun with Covid. It just seems a bit ridiculous. One of the rules is that you can only socialise with other members of your household. So you can all go to a restaurant. But you CANNOT go to a restaurant or pub with friends who live elsewhere. But surely when you go to a restaurant, many other households will be there!!!! It just makes no sense at this point.

One experience I had whilst shopping without a mask was that 2 shoppers actually confronted me in a sarcastic way 'ohhhh i thought we had to wear face masks' and someone else said 'yes, i thought we did' quite nastily. I just said i was exempt and don't appreciate being bulled... that shut them up. But what was interesting was that the policing of this is now coming from the people! It's just a weird world right now.

I was totally 'in' Covid at the beginning but i have really changed my mind about the severity of it. I just think for the majority of us, at the moment, it's not as dangerous as it was first made out to be. I think the measures are laughable, wearing masks when infections naturally dropped, strange rules in almost all shops/bars/anywhere indoors. The terrified people clutching their mask when you are within a couple of metres of them.. it's funny how we got here.
I can't forget that the temporary hospitals that were put up here in the UK were never used!! We didn't even need them.
Now we have huge industries decimated, what for?! So many shops near me have closed as well as cafes/restaurants. It's like a different place completely, it's horrible.

What is terrifying is the economic collapse which is being held off for now with stamp duty cuts and furlough... but when that ends I can't imagine what the UK will look like.

But don't deaths lag behind infections. So increased deaths will be in 2 to 4 weeks? Also depends on age group of current infections. I haven't checked but suspect it will be younger age group as they are the ones going pub/house parties etc.

I thought this was interesting re whether kids can pass on the virus as there has been much scientific debate. It seems they very much can. Schools reopening soon. Chris Whitty, Public Health yesterday hinting that there will be more backtracking of measures in order to allow schools to open.

www.cdc.gov...

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

Your signature pretty much sums up the past couple of months in the U.K.

People taking holidays in a country heavily hit by Covid and then complaining about having to cut it short quarantine when they return. It’s as though the mass subconscious craves another full lockdown so they can complain about that too.

Yep... Signature says it all.



Could possibly be being done on purpose this time round... or was it done on purpose the first time round???

a reply to: CrazeeWorld777

If I were forced to bet on it I’d wager the latter. Increasing infection rate has been the U.K. leadership’s goal since at least the start of March. I think it’s too easy to put it all down to incompetence. Sure, our MPs can be incredibly incompetent, but there’s been far too many wrong moves that were obviously wrong from way back in the cheap seats to put it down to incompetence and bad luck. As daft as Boris likes to play it for the cameras, he’s an astute bugger with the best education money can buy (Cummings is no dummy either - a modern Machiavelli).

‘Why’ is the question! Still clinging to the notion of herd immunity?
Resigned to this being an incurable virus so they’ve opted to cull the herd, weeding out the old and infirm (which also helps their coffers)?
Or the Big Bad of Agenda 21, or the like?

Definitely more than meets the eye to the apparent farce at number 10.

a reply to: McGinty
The more things change the more they remain insane it seems and that the truth as I knowes it or whatever (basically what Im sayin is that yeah I agree with you 100 percent and I cant spell too well) just trying not to get too mad about it because when you do you sometimes get what you don't want.

a reply to: McGinty

Maybe they are following Bolsonaro's thoughts " We're all going to get it at some point.
People die everyday anyway.
get over it."

I think that was the gist of it, anyway.

Sort of "May as well just let it rip and see what happens".

The only problem I have with that is that there are Many variants and strains of this on every continent.

Also, We would all have to stay in our own country if the country neighbouring decided to not follow the 'Herd Immunity' or 'Let it Rip' Strategy.
For a good month or three or so until it was well and truly spread, and declining.
If it doesn't decline also means your nieghbours might not open again for business with you.

I DO beleive though, that, as humans, we will find a way to continue spreading this, without another lockdown.
A long one.
Quite a few countries are saying they won't be locking down at such a big level again.
Towns and cities maybe, but not nationally.

We'll see where we are by September. (Which seems like a really, really long way off...)

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Update: August 2 , 2020 Tokyo time: 10 pm

Update from Japan

just a short note: our schools from grade 1 thru 12 are open
American schools should open in September
if a child is infected here, the school closes, then is disinfected and usually reopens up in a few days

On the 2nd, 292 people in Tokyo, 194 people in Osaka prefecture, 160 people in Aichi prefecture, 145 people in Fukuoka prefecture were newly confirmed, and a total of 1330 people were quarantined in 36 prefectures and airports. The infection has been announced. It has exceeded 1000 people for 5 consecutive days.
The number of people confirmed to be infected in Japan was 39,255, including quarantine at airports, and 712 passengers and crew on cruise ships, for a total of 39967.
The number of people who died in Japan is 1013, and the number of passengers on a cruise ship is 13, which is 1026.

According to the local governments, etc., the total number of people confirmed to be infected in Japan is as follows. The number in parentheses is a new infected person on the 2nd.

▽ Tokyo:
13,455 (292) ▽ Osaka: 4446 (194)
▽ Kanagawa: 2613 (72)
▽ Saitama: 2458 (74)
▽ Fukuoka: 2192 (145)
▽ Aichi Is 2146 (160)
▽ Chiba is 1770 (51)
▽ Hokkaido is 1455 (9)
▽ Hyogo is 1312 (60)
▽ Kyoto is 826 (17)
▽ Okinawa is 517 (64)
▽ Hiroshima 357 (10)
▽ Gifu 351 (7)
▽ Ishikawa 323 (1)
▽ Ibaraki 322 (14)
▽ Shizuoka 307 (18)
▽ Nara 264 People (8)
▽ Kagoshima prefecture 256 people
▽ Toyama prefecture 244 people (1)
▽ Kumamoto prefecture 237 people (20)
▽ Tochigi prefecture 199 people (4)
▽ Gunma prefecture 192 people (1)
▽ Shiga prefecture 184 (5)
▽ Miyagi Prefecture 168 (3)
▽ Wakayama Prefecture 167 (4)
▽ Miyazaki Prefecture 187 (30)
▽ Fukui Prefecture 140 (1)
▽ Niigata Prefecture 115 (2)
▽ Mie prefecture has 124 people (12)
▽ Nagano prefecture has 117 people (6)
▽ 103 people in Yamanashi (2)
▽ 95 people in Ehime (3)
▽ Fukushima prefecture 89 people
▽ Nagasaki prefecture 112 people (23)
▽ Okayama prefecture 88 people (2)
▽ Saga prefecture 95 people (5) )
▽ Kochi prefecture 81 people (1)
▽ Yamagata prefecture 76 people
▽ Oita prefecture 68 people
▽ Yamaguchi prefecture 58 people
▽ Kagawa prefecture 46 people
▽ Aomori prefecture 32 people
▽ Shimane prefecture 29 people
▽ Tokushima prefecture 28 people (2)
▽ Akita prefecture has 18 people
▽ Tottori prefecture has 16 people
▽ Iwate prefecture has 4 people.

In addition, there are 600 (7) cases of quarantine at airports, and 173 people who returned to Japan by chartered aircraft from China as well as national staff and quarantine officers.

According to the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare, the number of severely ill persons who have been confirmed to be infected with the new coronavirus and are being treated in the ventilator or the intensive care unit is 83 as of 2 days.

On the other hand, the number of people who were discharged from the hospital due to improvement in symptoms was 25,906, and the total number of passengers and crews on the cruise ship was 659, making a total of 26,565.

In addition, on July 29, 19,935 PCR tests were performed per day by preliminary figures. ( I'm not sure about this due to translation to English )

*The total may be revised at a later date.
*Does not include persons infected by the US Army in Japan.

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From the Guardi an Live Feed at 21h58 GMT+1 :

The US economy could benefit if the nation were to “lock down really hard” for four to six weeks, a top Federal Reserve official said on Sunday, adding that Congress can well afford large sums for coronavirus relief efforts.

The economy, which in the second quarter suffered its biggest blow since the Great Depression, would be able to mount a robust recovery, but only if the virus were brought under control, Neel Kashkari, president of the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Bank, told CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

“If we don’t do that and we just have this raging virus spreading throughout the country with flare-ups and local lockdowns for the next year or two, which is entirely possible, we’re going to see many, many more business bankruptcies,” Kashkari said.

“That’s going to be a much slower recovery for all of us.”

He said Congress was positioned to spend big on coronavirus relief efforts because the nation’s budget gap can be financed without relying on foreign borrowing, given how much Americans are saving.

“Those of us who are fortunate enough to still have our jobs, we’re saving a lot more money because we’re not going to restaurants or movie theaters or vacations,” Kashkari said.

“That actually means that we have a lot more resources as a country to support those who have been laid off,” he said.

The Democratic-led US House of Representatives approved a $3tn relief bill in May, while Senate Republicans, many of whom have expressed concerns about mounting debt, countered by proposing a $1tn aid package last week.

Efforts to craft a compromise appear stalled.

In an interview with ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said president Donald Trump would spend what was needed, but that the deficit was a factor.

“There’s obviously a need to support workers and support the economy,” he said.

“On the other hand, we have to be careful about not piling on enormous amount of debts for future generations.”

Yeah the seemingly stupid government who keep making 'mistakes' just doesn't ring true. They are all well educated and are in positions of power. They can't make that many gaffes.
This whole thing makes no sense anymore! What is the end game??
Also there is so much conflicting science out there that I am not sure what to believe about the virus.
a reply to: McGinty

a reply to: cirrus12

This whole thing makes no sense anymore! What is the end game??

What's the end game? To get Trump out of the White House. I'd be willing to bet if biden were to win, you'd see the severity of the virus almost magically drop to almost nothing within a month of his election.