105,000 people

Yesterday 105,000 people passed through a TSA Screening Checkpoint...nationwide! 105,000 people! Nationwide!

In October of 2019...158,000 people passed through TSA checkpoints at Denver International Airport...per day! Just Denver. Chicago and Atlanta each had 30% more than that...each day!

Yesterday 950 people passed through TSA screening at Denver. Nine hundred and fifty. All day. 158,000/day down to just 950.

Runways have been closed down at most major airports around the US, just to provide enough room to give airlines a place to park all their aircraft.

The aviation industry has seen a 97% downturn in the past month.

Forecasts yesterday said it will take the industry until 2023 to recover, and even then only partially.

Trillions upon trillions of dollars in programs have been halted, millions of jobs lost and thousands upon thousands of aircraft just parked. The effect on collateral industries who support the aviation world is exponentially greater.

The devastation to just this one industry is simply unimaginable.

That is what COVID-19, and the reaction to it, has given us.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I really don't know what to think of all this. It just doesn't seem real. Talking to a guy at work yesterday and we were both thinking of the same thing. How we are headed into the unknown. It is a feeling I haven't had in quite some time.

Weird times ahead.

Wow

originally posted by: Tarzan the apeman.


I really don't know what to think of all this.

It's suicide out of fear of death. The political and socioeconomic ramifications resulting from both neccessary and unnecessary measures to fight the disease may very well be extreme.

a reply to: mightmight

It's suicide out of fear of death.

Interesting way to frame it!

I may use that in the future.

United made over $43 billion in revenue in 2019. $3 billion in net revenue in 2019. Roughly $250 million a month. They are also getting bailed out by tax payers. I have empathy for the workers but airlines companies no way. It will barely phase them.

The people who really get shafted in all this are those that make over $100K and actually saved for a rainy day. They get nothing but depletion of their savings. No bailout for them. Not even a tax break. Why don't companies get their savings depleted. It's a question nobody seems to want to address.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: mightmight

It's suicide out of fear of death.

Interesting way to frame it!

I may use that in the future.

I disagree. I believe that is actually premeditated murder.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

That's all great news from my point of view, however, it should have been down to 950 or less 90 days ago.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

There is a difference between revenue and profit.
Not sure why people can't see that.
$3 billion sounds like a lot of money but for that size of company it's not especially when you consider a single dreamliner is $200 million.

Airlines run on very tight margins and it wouldn't surprise me to see several around the world die because of this virus fiasco.

People are getting bailouts too.
Stimulus checks.
Deferred payment from many places.
Unemployment insurance.

Well I'm not getting anything. My point is companies should have to deplete their cash on hand first before a bailout just like me. I would want to see if their executives are still getting paid. Willing to bet they are. They won't lose a dime other than bonuses.

Those parked planes are probably being fitted with some 5G gear. This whole thing is a giant hoax. I'm sure of it.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

They probably depleted their cash reserves when the faa grounded the 737.

And executives are employees just like everyone else.

They still aren't losing anything with the bailouts regardless if they spend cash on hand. I'm not getting anything. No way around that one.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

You get to pay for it....

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Stupidsecrets

You get to pay for it....

Pretty much. I also get beat up by the media for voting for someone who wants to lower my taxes. It's like everybody hates me for actually being a financially responsible educated person with no debt.

Hell, I say good. Stupid planes anyway. Get more people to drive. Make a few stops along the way to spend money. Wear out your cars faster. See how people live outside the city.

a reply to: Stupidsecrets

Well, if you don't like the airlines, and don't ever plan to travel (again, ever)...then you just might get your wish.

The airline industry which emerges from this crisis is going to look a whole lot different than the one that went in. So, next time you decide to go visit Mom, or Sis, or a friend, don't fret to me when your tickets cost you $3,000 to fly from Baltimore to Chicago (or where ever).

a reply to: Argen

Do you even have the remotest idea of how many millions of people are employed by the airline industry??? Both directly, and indirectly???

Apparently not, because you just scoffed at all their misfortune.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Indeed. I scoff in their general direction. Just like they did when robots took assembly line workers. And China took steel mill workers. And super stores took all the local mom and pop businesses. Etc, etc, etc

a reply to: Argen

Very well. Enjoy your smugness.

**shrug**