Odd amount of people pre predicting things related to covid

I stumbled upon this strange video from 2018 about a show on Netflix that talks about a Corona virus outbreak. Plus everyone knows about bull gates event 201 witch is weirdly similar to the name agenda 21 also the Ted talks he gave about depopulation. For sure alot of questions to be asked. My main one being why in this show do they talk about it being man made and now it's coming out more and more that yes in fact it was man made.

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"The Chrojan Virus" is almost certainly lab engineered and that fact is becoming clearer by the day and I would guess that by the end of June May this will be confirmed!
We are all in a movie!

I don't know if this warrants another thread but the reason people predicted corona virus outbreaks is because the corona virus is one of the most abundant viruses out there. If you ever had a cold or the flu and lived, you will have corona virus Rna in your body, forever; as you will have deveoloped antibodies.

It is these that show up in this frigging useless 'corona virus test'. There is no Test for Covid-19, just for corona virus.

So yeah, if people want to lose it and make up a pandemic scenario, it would include the corona virus and not some other.
The same with predictions of planes hitting the twin towers.
I mean two of the tallest buildings in a capital? Anyone would be worried about planes hitting it. Accidentally or deliberately. It's not something pulled out of a sleeve but a logical though exercise. I mean they didn't predict terrorists flying into Central Park, because it makes no sense. But two sore thumbs sticking up...yeah.

I don't know if you can tell but I am absolutely fed up with this crap now.
If anything yes, it's Agenda 21 and yes they have planned it and yes they are abusing a normal [but bad] flu bout to enforce illegal actions. Taking our freedoms under false pretence is terrorism and totally against any human rights.

The flu season is over and the numbers of this one are now declining. People on the other side of the hemisphere will see a rise because their flu season is starting now.

Nothing is different from previous bad flu outbreaks apart from the reaction to it. More deaths, more contagious, well sure, that's what happens with flu, but their numbers are exaggerated [and wrong depending on a test that can't even test for this virus] and many catch it because of this overreaction.

Nurses and doctors catch it because hoarders have bought up all the masks. So they have to work unprotected, something that didn't happen in previous outbreaks.

So to the OP, I could have predicted a bad virus outbreak and I could have predicted [a] plane hitting WTC.
I don't think it's a prediction as much as a logical conclusion taken further.

a reply to: Hecate666

Hecate, you're right about coronaviruses being super common. However, the reason for the various movies, writings, scenarios, etc., probably has to do with the more recent variants of coronaviruses which showed serious pandemic potential (SARS and MERS.)

They're coronaviruses, not influenza viruses, not rhinoviruses. A flu never means coronavirus, a "cold" can be from one of the common, pre-SARS coronaviruses, but a "coronavirus" infection of any kind, whether an older "sniffles" variety, or any of the big 3 new ones over the past 17 years, only comes from coronaviruses - not influenza, and not "any cold", and so there is absolutley no cross-immunity inferred by exposure to other viruses.

Now if you're saying the coronavirus test is detecting different coronaviruses and influenza viruses, a source or some explanation would be interesting.

a reply to: Hecate666

It is these that show up in this frigging useless 'corona virus test'. There is no Test for Covid-19, just for corona virus.

I've heard this before and now from you, could you explain it to us please or a link.

a reply to: dogstar23
If you go online and ask about Covid 19 tests.....it comes back with talk about corona tests.

They test for corona not covid 19 as far as I can make out.

Make of it what you will!

a reply to: Dr UAE

www.telegraph.co.uk...

Read this; posted just 1 hour ago.... let me know your thoughts after.

What do the tests test for?
Covid 19 or Corona?

a reply to: Dr UAE

I think he's just postulating conspiracy theories. COVID-19 is the disease itself. Tests use known science to test for the virus' genetic material, or for specific antibodies

How testing is done - just like for otherviruses

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

"The Chrojan Virus" is almost certainly lab engineered and that fact is becoming clearer by the day and I would guess that by the end of June May this will be confirmed!
We are all in a movie!

I will NEVER be confirmed for many many years to come.

I know someone in the government who knows the people we see on TV. He told me confidentially that it was lab grown and accidentally got lose by an infected dead experimental animal being illegally sold as food in a wet market. He also said this is NOT to be made public. ATS isn't that public, so I thought I'd explain to conspiracy theorists the thinking of at least the US government.

If this got out TPTB fear WWIII over it, with the people of the world demanding retribution.

TPTB know it was an accident, although the engineering of the virus was not. They prefer not to panic the entire world by making this public.

Sometimes TPTB feel, the truth does more harm than good. This is one case where the elite political class who normally tear each other to shreds publicly to wrest power from the "other side" agree. The truth might destabilize TPTB political power base and money if it got out.

This appears to be what is happening. Let the Chinese off the hook internationally for what they have done, at least publicly.

But watch and see if the Chinese "gift" nations to show their generous and superior morality to the rest of the world in a time of worldwide crises. The gifts may be quite large too, especially to countries where the residents are clamoring for justice.

Chinese "face" is more important than human lives or war. So TPTB are going to allow China to save face, and the world save war, by China "helping" and "gifting" to assist other nations. By allowing China to save face and appear moral and generous they are hoping to avoid mass world destabilization and WWIII.



So it will be left this way, "we know", "we know someone who knows", and the media will be instructed to put out only propaganda to stop WWIII or the entire world becoming enraged and in panic mode. The elite political class and TPTB fear the masses, the ignorant masses, as they view everyone but themselves. The way they lose power is for everyone to become enraged and go into panic mode, then all bets are off for TPTB controlling things. TPTB is not nebulous, it is the political elite around the world who are elected or "sham elected" or inherit political power, and they see the rest of humanity as ignorant peasants whose lives are designed to keep them powerful and rich. To keep political power and their wealth (nearly 100% of the US congress are millionaires or multi-millionaires, they become so generally within a few election cycles if they don't start out that way), they must not let the stupid flyover country average Joe/Jane US citizen become enraged, or all bets are off for keeping the elite fat and sassy and in power.

As an aside: This virus was most likely engineered to kill the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped, those who take resources and are seen by the governments as resource sucking from the collective, greater society. No government can go around killing the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped so engineering a virus and denying it is engineered gets rid of people problematic to society. This is a very socialist and collectivist notion and idea, get rid of the undesirable as government sees it while appearing compassionate in taking great care of them while dying. There is no government more plagued by too many elderly and too few young workers to support them than China. Just an interesting footnote.

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

"The Chrojan Virus" is almost certainly lab engineered and that fact is becoming clearer by the day and I would guess that by the end of June May this will be confirmed!
We are all in a movie!

I will NEVER be confirmed for many many years to come.

I know someone in the government who knows the people we see on TV. He told me confidentially that it was lab grown and accidentally got lose by an infected dead experimental animal being illegally sold as food in a wet market. He also said this is NOT to be made public. ATS isn't that public, so I thought I'd explain to conspiracy theorists the thinking of at least the US government.

If this got out TPTB fear WWIII over it, with the people of the world demanding retribution.

TPTB know it was an accident, although the engineering of the virus was not. They prefer not to panic the entire world by making this public.

Sometimes TPTB feel, the truth does more harm than good. This is one case where the elite political class who normally tear each other to shreds publicly to wrest power from the "other side" agree. The truth might destabilize TPTB political power base and money if it got out.

This appears to be what is happening. Let the Chinese off the hook internationally for what they have done, at least publicly.

But watch and see if the Chinese "gift" nations to show their generous and superior morality to the rest of the world in a time of worldwide crises. The gifts may be quite large too, especially to countries where the residents are clamoring for justice.

Chinese "face" is more important than human lives or war. So TPTB are going to allow China to save face, and the world save war, by China "helping" and "gifting" to assist other nations. By allowing China to save face and appear moral and generous they are hoping to avoid mass world destabilization and WWIII.



So it will be left this way, "we know", "we know someone who knows", and the media will be instructed to put out only propaganda to stop WWIII or the entire world becoming enraged and in panic mode. The elite political class and TPTB fear the masses, the ignorant masses, as they view everyone but themselves. The way they lose power is for everyone to become enraged and go into panic mode, then all bets are off for TPTB controlling things. TPTB is not nebulous, it is the political elite around the world who are elected or "sham elected" or inherit political power, and they see the rest of humanity as ignorant peasants whose lives are designed to keep them powerful and rich. To keep political power and their wealth (nearly 100% of the US congress are millionaires or multi-millionaires, they become so generally within a few election cycles if they don't start out that way), they must not let the stupid flyover country average Joe/Jane US citizen become enraged, or all bets are off for keeping the elite fat and sassy and in power.

As an aside: This virus was most likely engineered to kill the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped, those who take resources and are seen by the governments as resource sucking from the collective, greater society. No government can go around killing the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped so engineering a virus and denying it is engineered gets rid of people problematic to society. This is a very socialist and collectivist notion and idea, get rid of the undesirable as government sees it while appearing compassionate in taking great care of them while dying. There is no government more plagued by too many elderly and too few young workers to support them than China. Just an interesting footnote.

Confirmed was the wrong word. Lets say widely accepted by many (but unconfirmed until.....) by June.

a reply to: The2Billies

This seems to be reality, whether it is or not.

a reply to: Traptomisprime

It so obvious its frustrating that THIS is the conspiracy and not the question of if the CCP accidentally or intentionally let this loose from their Wuhan labs.

Its vaccine research. Specifically, a Virus like particle that has an engineered coronavirus membrane modeled after the SARS coronavirus that is packed with RNA genetic fragments of more than one virus.

a reply to: The2Billies

I agree 1000%.

We cant ask for a war we cant win. AND yes China owes us.

But remember...no one really knew why WW2 started until history books were made.

Originally Germany owed someone something and they got tired of paying for it.

War is still a possibility, especially if we mobilize and gear the country for it. We may just be bidding time. Or negotiating ATM.

And yes. ATS has a small readership that makes it great for safe conversations few need to see, but generally shouldn't be completely hidden.

originally posted by: Hecate666

I don't know if you can tell but I am absolutely fed up with this crap now.
If anything yes, it's Agenda 21 and yes they have planned it and yes they are abusing a normal [but bad] flu bout to enforce illegal actions. Taking our freedoms under false pretence is terrorism and totally against any human rights.

The flu season is over and the numbers of this one are now declining. People on the other side of the hemisphere will see a rise because their flu season is starting now.

Nothing is different from previous bad flu outbreaks apart from the reaction to it. More deaths, more contagious, well sure, that's what happens with flu, but their numbers are exaggerated [and wrong depending on a test that can't even test for this virus] and many catch it because of this overreaction.
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It is only barely the fourth month of 2020 anyone claiming anything about how this virus will shake out by the end of this year are just guessing and speculating. If you were alive in 1918 you would be saying the same thing, after all the first wave in the spring wasn't all that bad and affected mostly soldiers and health care workers. It wasn't until the second "deadly" wave in the fall that the majority of the deaths in that epidemic occurred. Will there be a second deadly wave with covid-19? I don't know, but neither do you or anyone else. The 1918 flu had three waves, so lets wait and see what happens.

Can we just get over the semantics?

originally posted by: themessengernevermatters

originally posted by: Hecate666

I don't know if you can tell but I am absolutely fed up with this crap now.
If anything yes, it's Agenda 21 and yes they have planned it and yes they are abusing a normal [but bad] flu bout to enforce illegal actions. Taking our freedoms under false pretence is terrorism and totally against any human rights.

The flu season is over and the numbers of this one are now declining. People on the other side of the hemisphere will see a rise because their flu season is starting now.

Nothing is different from previous bad flu outbreaks apart from the reaction to it. More deaths, more contagious, well sure, that's what happens with flu, but their numbers are exaggerated [and wrong depending on a test that can't even test for this virus] and many catch it because of this overreaction.
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It is only barely the fourth month of 2020 anyone claiming anything about how this virus will shake out by the end of this year are just guessing and speculating. If you were alive in 1918 you would be saying the same thing, after all the first wave in the spring wasn't all that bad and affected mostly soldiers and health care workers. It wasn't until the second "deadly" wave in the fall that the majority of the deaths in that epidemic occurred. Will there be a second deadly wave with covid-19? I don't know, but neither do you or anyone else. The 1918 flu had three waves, so lets wait and see what happens.

And the flu will come back too... just like it did this year...

Point is that yes, it is speculation, but you’re taking this into a vacuum.

Also, as the data is showing, this isn’t nearly as big of problem as it’s been made out to be. The argument above could play out but for me that just falls in the “this is still a big deal” camp...

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

"The Chrojan Virus" is almost certainly lab engineered and that fact is becoming clearer by the day and I would guess that by the end of June May this will be confirmed!
We are all in a movie!

I will NEVER be confirmed for many many years to come.

I know someone in the government who knows the people we see on TV. He told me confidentially that it was lab grown and accidentally got lose by an infected dead experimental animal being illegally sold as food in a wet market. He also said this is NOT to be made public. ATS isn't that public, so I thought I'd explain to conspiracy theorists the thinking of at least the US government.

If this got out TPTB fear WWIII over it, with the people of the world demanding retribution.

TPTB know it was an accident, although the engineering of the virus was not. They prefer not to panic the entire world by making this public.

Sometimes TPTB feel, the truth does more harm than good. This is one case where the elite political class who normally tear each other to shreds publicly to wrest power from the "other side" agree. The truth might destabilize TPTB political power base and money if it got out.

This appears to be what is happening. Let the Chinese off the hook internationally for what they have done, at least publicly.

But watch and see if the Chinese "gift" nations to show their generous and superior morality to the rest of the world in a time of worldwide crises. The gifts may be quite large too, especially to countries where the residents are clamoring for justice.

Chinese "face" is more important than human lives or war. So TPTB are going to allow China to save face, and the world save war, by China "helping" and "gifting" to assist other nations. By allowing China to save face and appear moral and generous they are hoping to avoid mass world destabilization and WWIII.



So it will be left this way, "we know", "we know someone who knows", and the media will be instructed to put out only propaganda to stop WWIII or the entire world becoming enraged and in panic mode. The elite political class and TPTB fear the masses, the ignorant masses, as they view everyone but themselves. The way they lose power is for everyone to become enraged and go into panic mode, then all bets are off for TPTB controlling things. TPTB is not nebulous, it is the political elite around the world who are elected or "sham elected" or inherit political power, and they see the rest of humanity as ignorant peasants whose lives are designed to keep them powerful and rich. To keep political power and their wealth (nearly 100% of the US congress are millionaires or multi-millionaires, they become so generally within a few election cycles if they don't start out that way), they must not let the stupid flyover country average Joe/Jane US citizen become enraged, or all bets are off for keeping the elite fat and sassy and in power.

As an aside: This virus was most likely engineered to kill the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped, those who take resources and are seen by the governments as resource sucking from the collective, greater society. No government can go around killing the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped so engineering a virus and denying it is engineered gets rid of people problematic to society. This is a very socialist and collectivist notion and idea, get rid of the undesirable as government sees it while appearing compassionate in taking great care of them while dying. There is no government more plagued by too many elderly and too few young workers to support them than China. Just an interesting footnote.

I’m not fully sold that this virus was man made but I do think everything else you mentioned is accurate.

I posted a few weeks ago that we should be watching to see what our rhetoric is like with China in the coming months. WW3 isn’t off the table IMO.

This flips the script for me a little bit - this wasn’t a false flag, it was a flag. China did it. And TPTB will probably make them pay in one way or another, but let them off the hook publicly so as not to turn the entire world ex-Russia, Iran and DPRK against them. I buy that.

So if I buy most of this, Billies, what then is the wildcard? To me, it’s does China think to themselves “we really got off the hook here... we should probably play ball for a while” and make some concessions that perhaps they wouldn’t have? Or do they go rogue and say “yeah, that deal was good - but now it’s back to business as usual”.

If they do the latter they may force than hand towards conflict.

I would hope that, if all of this is true, China realizes we have them by the shorts should they ever get out of line again. All we have to do is release our evidence China made and released the virus. We could start world war 3 - aimed squarely at China, pretty much whenever we wanted.

I hope we just let people out of their houses in a few weeks and we can put this alllll in the rear view. Much better than WW3.

a reply to: The2Billies

I thought that since the beginning of this thing it was to get rid of the old people

Just wanted to add my thoughts on this from another thread.

You guys should think why are they giving us money and only asking us to chill out

We cant ask for a war we cant win. I said it

Not now, not if we want to win. Peace must prevail. China owes us, and I think they arent doing more than keeping a facade for us common folk and their own average people. We would force them to fight or lose power at home. Like idiots.

I believe this and still want to bloody their nose properly. Imagine the ones who lost big...what they want and will ask of our government in response...

We cant survive that. So dont expect this to come out and be corrected in the "fact checker" websites or in history books.

You remember and tell your kids. Keep a memory and move on. Survive it and rebuild for you and yours.

This will never go anywhere. Its just for us few to know if we choose to believe it.

Or bat soup

You decide.

Yeah. Kind of sent the wrong message. (Talking about the USS Roosevelt captain relieved of duty for publicly declaring his ship was in a state of emergency and infected.)

It proves a point. Even our own men have their own survival instincts that kick in. They will defy orders to not retaliate instantly or eventually under duress from each other. Out of fear for brothers and family somewhere far off....things would unravel.

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I think thats where we should keep this. Most people should not know the truth on this one.

Most should NEVER find out. The truth should still be available for those who can and want to know.

I say most wouldn't want to sacrifice properly to win a war with China, so most wouldn't want to know the truth anyway since it requires them to either sacrifice their comfort or their convictions.

We would probably lose both in a prolonged serious war and our leadership would collapse from within from the prior social pressures they added over the generations during times of excesses.

originally posted by: EnigmaChaser

originally posted by: The2Billies

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

"The Chrojan Virus" is almost certainly lab engineered and that fact is becoming clearer by the day and I would guess that by the end of June May this will be confirmed!
We are all in a movie!

I will NEVER be confirmed for many many years to come.

I know someone in the government who knows the people we see on TV. He told me confidentially that it was lab grown and accidentally got lose by an infected dead experimental animal being illegally sold as food in a wet market. He also said this is NOT to be made public. ATS isn't that public, so I thought I'd explain to conspiracy theorists the thinking of at least the US government.

If this got out TPTB fear WWIII over it, with the people of the world demanding retribution.

TPTB know it was an accident, although the engineering of the virus was not. They prefer not to panic the entire world by making this public.

Sometimes TPTB feel, the truth does more harm than good. This is one case where the elite political class who normally tear each other to shreds publicly to wrest power from the "other side" agree. The truth might destabilize TPTB political power base and money if it got out.

This appears to be what is happening. Let the Chinese off the hook internationally for what they have done, at least publicly.

But watch and see if the Chinese "gift" nations to show their generous and superior morality to the rest of the world in a time of worldwide crises. The gifts may be quite large too, especially to countries where the residents are clamoring for justice.

Chinese "face" is more important than human lives or war. So TPTB are going to allow China to save face, and the world save war, by China "helping" and "gifting" to assist other nations. By allowing China to save face and appear moral and generous they are hoping to avoid mass world destabilization and WWIII.



So it will be left this way, "we know", "we know someone who knows", and the media will be instructed to put out only propaganda to stop WWIII or the entire world becoming enraged and in panic mode. The elite political class and TPTB fear the masses, the ignorant masses, as they view everyone but themselves. The way they lose power is for everyone to become enraged and go into panic mode, then all bets are off for TPTB controlling things. TPTB is not nebulous, it is the political elite around the world who are elected or "sham elected" or inherit political power, and they see the rest of humanity as ignorant peasants whose lives are designed to keep them powerful and rich. To keep political power and their wealth (nearly 100% of the US congress are millionaires or multi-millionaires, they become so generally within a few election cycles if they don't start out that way), they must not let the stupid flyover country average Joe/Jane US citizen become enraged, or all bets are off for keeping the elite fat and sassy and in power.

As an aside: This virus was most likely engineered to kill the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped, those who take resources and are seen by the governments as resource sucking from the collective, greater society. No government can go around killing the elderly, the infirm, the handicapped so engineering a virus and denying it is engineered gets rid of people problematic to society. This is a very socialist and collectivist notion and idea, get rid of the undesirable as government sees it while appearing compassionate in taking great care of them while dying. There is no government more plagued by too many elderly and too few young workers to support them than China. Just an interesting footnote.

This flips the script for me a little bit - this wasn’t a false flag, it was a flag. China did it. And TPTB will probably make them pay in one way or another, but let them off the hook publicly so as not to turn the entire world ex-Russia, Iran and DPRK against them. I buy that.

So if I buy most of this, Billies, what then is the wildcard? To me, it’s does China think to themselves “we really got off the hook here... we should probably play ball for a while” and make some concessions that perhaps they wouldn’t have? Or do they go rogue and say “yeah, that deal was good - but now it’s back to business as usual”.

If they do the latter they may force than hand towards conflict.

I don't know what the flip is if China doesn't "graciously give" assistance to the nations most affected. Then probably all gloves will be off and oops the truth will emerge in ways the Chinese people will see before the Chinese manage to scrub it from their society. I would expect a psyops mission being coordinated internationally to let the Chinese people know the truth of what their government did. That would most likely be the first world wide coordinated step to try and avoid war and punish the Chinese government.

I just read an article yesterday that turned my stomach. There are reports that in at least one Chinese hot spot, elderly who were close to dying were taken off ventilators, zipped into body bags, sent to the crematoriums and burned alive and screaming. As my 86 year old Mom said, they should have given them a huge shot of morphine and killed them first, at the very least. sarahwestall.com...
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