My hospital, #1 in my state, laying off 900 employees due to Covid-19

Nurses and other staff have had drastic cuts to hours, lots of call offs, asking staff to take time off without pay, and now they are laying off 900 staff. All because there are no patients due to Covid-19. All elective procedures and anything that can be put off has been. There's a small parking lot with maybe 60 spaces, always so packed people park illegally because it's really close to the hospital. It was empty, only 4 cars there when I drove by this morning.

Pay reduction of 20% for leaders, a 15% reduction for salaried employees and anyone not involved in direct patient care will have hours cut. Unprecedented financial losses that make the 07-08 crash look like nothing.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

This gets stranger and stranger by the day. You might almost think they are trying to hide something.

a reply to: purplemer

Hide what? There are no patients. Most units only have about half the beds used, the other half sit empty with no patients.

a reply to: purplemer

They aren't. This is insurance company's, and private medical facilities wanting their end of day cut. Sick really.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: purplemer

They aren't. This is insurance company's, and private medical facilities wanting their end of day cut. Sick really.

No, it's the fact we relied on China for supplies and we have none now. No supplies, we can't treat patients. So everything gets cancelled. It's a teaching hospital, all students were prevented from entering the hospital weeks ago to preserve PPE and supplies. Patients are not allowed any visitors at all anymore since weeks ago.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

One of the VERY few professions, that we thought would never hurt in a “pandemic” like this.

I have two different loved ones that have late stage cancer. Both of their surgeries have been postponed. You know, until after they die....

None of this sh!t makes any sense!

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

One of the VERY few professions, that we thought would never hurt in a “pandemic” like this.

I have two different loved ones that have late stage cancer. Both of their surgeries have been postponed. You know, until after they die....

None of this sh!t makes any sense!

This is what happens when in the 90s you give China complete control over your supply chain. We have people who need care, we have people who need to provide it, we have no supplies to do it.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Will this narrative goes on there are other narraitives at play. What the truth is I cannot discern. IF Q is correct these hospitals are being closed for very different reasons. Is covid death rate being baked. I am not saying its this way I simply dont know.

I have a nurse friend Uk (midlands) We are in the middle of a pandemic. The Covid wards are empty!

I know someone else that works on NHS helpine the other day they took two calls in one eve for covid and thats for the whole of England.

I read somewhere that the covid 19 test will give a postive for any covid. If this is the case its a game changer.

I am not sure but it does smell a bit funny

Time will tell

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

America had a lot of time to prepare for this. And had plenty of warning. Now your failure of a health care system can't even handle it.

COVID - 19 isn't profitable for those insurances company's. That's not China's problem, that is YOUR problem. Pointing fingers at China isn't going to fix this.

If you are in a state with remain at home orders and maintaining social distancing, there are fewer car accidents, fewer murders, lower incidences of the flu, a whole host of things keeping people out of the hospital.

That's the bright side of the covid-19 hysteria hoax.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Will this narrative goes on there are other narraitives at play. What the truth is I cannot discern. IF Q is correct these hospitals are being closed for very different reasons. Is covid death rate being baked. I am not saying its this way I simply dont know.

No closures, just layoffs. Since me and my wife work at the hospital I can assure you there is nothing be baked at this hospital. My state has not been hit that hard. Hospitals only buy what they need with a small stock. They rely on a constant supply. We are always running out of things in normal circumstances.

If those things were made in the USA, the chain would continue. It's not. So the stock only lasts a week, and then you get almost nothing in to replace it. The only way to operate is to reduce your patient load to only emergencies.

a reply to: strongfp

Your post shows literally zero understanding of the truth or what is going on. You are too interested in taking a jab at the US and less interested in the truth.

We have zero problems with Covid-19 at my hospiatal.

The US has 33 deaths per 1 million citizens. Let's compare that to your socialist wonderland systems.

France: 137
Spain: 285
UK: 79
Sweden: 47

So you take your ill-informed trash elsewhere. Nearly the entire problem in the US is NY, which is run by socialist wannabes. More than half of all US deaths are in NY and NJ.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Well yeah. The "5% of super users" are scared s#hitless to go to the ER now. There goes HALF of their revenue right there.


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Elective surgery ratio is also huge.

Add on the lockdowns.... fewer car accidents, sports injuries, broken bones, etc. and of course beyond the super users, most people are not going to the hospital for anything if they can avoid it.

a reply to: infolurker

This is not ER, this is every unit. Every unit is half empty.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

This gets stranger and stranger by the day. You might almost think they are trying to hide something.

No not really.

Ill give you perspective. My hospital system (One adult, one children and is a major university teaching hospital) has a total of about 10000 employees. Of that total about 4000 of us are nurses. The figure does not include the MD's which are all emplyees of the medical school, nor does it included people doing research.

So what are the other 6000 doing?

Facilities and maintenance
Biomed aka the people that fix medical gear
Surgical techs
Sterile processing
Housekeeping
Food covering the cafeteria and patients
Parking
Education Department (which in my option tend to be the nurses that are over educated and under skilled)
Risk management
Compliance
Quality assurance
etc etc etc

In these times where elective surgeries are suspended and most non urgent clinic appointments are canceled you have about 3-4000 staff that have nothing to do and that includes some nurses. Now to be fair our system has not laid off people beyond forcing non exempt staff (salaried non represented staff and managers) to use PTO which to be fair they do all the time. We have deep pockets but some hospitals especially community based ones have almost no margin

For nurses in Units that are slow they have formed a voluntary labor pool which means if you don't want to go home you can do other things like man the front desk to ensure hand washing etc, or deliver PPE, stock units. In addition Mangers and educators are being trained to cover ICU's etc which is always amusing

As I said we are a Major Tertiary care hospital in a COVID hot zone so we are pretty busy.

A rural hospital or one without a major influx yet would be slow and the vast majority of small community hospitals are dependent on the big tertiary care facilities for their sickest patients. This is how I earn my living flying or driving to other facilities to get kids that need specialized help or higher level of care.

So depending on where you are at its not that unexpected

The NWO folks wanted open borders with a interconnected world supply chain. They wanted to do away with countries and sovereignty so there could be a one world government that could manage and dictate how the "Surfs" were going to live and breed. China with it massive control over its population was something that more than a few admired as it was the human version of an ant colony's drones.

I hope that COVID-19 has placed a dagger in the heart of their NWO utopian plans.

Self sufficiency has always been better for the people and thus a country.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
Nurses and other staff have had drastic cuts to hours, lots of call offs, asking staff to take time off without pay, and now they are laying off 900 staff. All because there are no patients due to Covid-19. All elective procedures and anything that can be put off has been. There's a small parking lot with maybe 60 spaces, always so packed people park illegally because it's really close to the hospital. It was empty, only 4 cars there when I drove by this morning.

Pay reduction of 20% for leaders, a 15% reduction for salaried employees and anyone not involved in direct patient care will have hours cut. Unprecedented financial losses that make the 07-08 crash look like nothing.

What state is this in?

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

One of the VERY few professions, that we thought would never hurt in a “pandemic” like this.

I have two different loved ones that have late stage cancer. Both of their surgeries have been postponed. You know, until after they die....

None of this sh!t makes any sense!

This is what happens when in the 90s you give China complete control over your supply chain. We have people who need care, we have people who need to provide it, we have no supplies to do it.

When Clinton signed the free trade bill with China, I was pissed. We were doing trade with China already but a very lot of jobs wound up over in China, jobs that paid a living wage. They were dumb to think a consumer based economy in a country this big could work. Now I bet a quarter of our food is imported from other countries, our fields are burned out because of gasahol, depleted and poisoned so much even grass will not grow on them.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: purplemer

Hide what? There are no patients. Most units only have about half the beds used, the other half sit empty with no patients.

MY friends hospital is the same way, she works in a busy lab, now there is no business, hospital is empty.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

You're blaming socialism?

Sorry to say, but on average the nations that aren't laying off hundreds of medical staff because of lack of profits are doing just fine. Because they actually value life over profit.

You might be in the potential thick of it all, but you aren't in the front lines. Now imagine if you were in the front lines and watch your staff dwindle down because of lack of PPE, and supplies. What would you think then?