It's Time to live with this Pandemic, not be scared of it.

A newsletter is circulating around my neighborhood stating that we are no longer allowed house guests. Insert Benjamin Franklin quote about liberty and security here.

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

I bet if a nationwide poll were taken, we would find that most people would rather take their chances with something that kills fewer individuals than the common flu, than to have their entire life turned upside down.

Why you keep lying bro?

Whatever you think, this is more deadly than the flu.

Whatever you say is actually not true at all. I have been posting a thread yesterday several time [can't be arsed to do it again] from the WHO from 2017, see the date there? Not 2020 but from THREE years ago, where they state that every year
~ 700000 people get a flu virus which results in pneumonia.

We haven't even scratched the surface of NORMAL flu infections or deaths yet and the world seems to have it's knockers in a twist like an imbecile with diahorrea.

Yes it seems like it, because we are hearing more of it this time round. Why? I have no idea.
Same with letting your kids out to play. Still the same amount of dangers out there as always but if the MSN get a hold of this, they could spin it so that it looks that the world is suddenly much more dangerous. which it isn't.

The point to really take notice of, is that this doesn't mean there are no dangers at all, but that these dangers have ALWAYS been the same, if not worse.

I don't know how to explain this any clearer. It's like telling Dougal [from Father Ted, UK comedy about priests] that the cow isn't "small but very far away".

This pandemic may be a bad bout of flu [which happens regularly in history and will in the future] but it ain't the bubonic plague, nor is worse than previous viral outbreaks.

If you are so concerned about human kind's health, now and in the future, we need to go out and face this thing. Like every frigging year. No vaccine can stop this as next year we will have another candidate and the year after that another one and so on.

Covoid-19 is here to stay but it is one in a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong line of corona viruses. It is merely the new kid on the block.

Meanwhile suicide rates are up, mental health is declining, people can't get life saving operations or medical care. If you are interested in not losing any unnecessary lives, being so scared of a virus that you ignore the effects of this reaction to it to secondary deaths helps nobody.

Let nature do what nature does best or we will be enslaved forever on.

EDIT: NM NWI

originally posted by: TzarChasm
A newsletter is circulating around my neighborhood stating that we are no longer allowed house guests. Insert Benjamin Franklin quote about liberty and security here.

Are you are claiming that is an official newsletter from your city, town or state vs something a CT is circulating?

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
All Right, The time is now.

We have all been force fed information on Covid-19 several weeks now, we are all very aware of the dangers of Covid-19 . It is an airborne virus , it is very contagious, it attacks the pulmonary system, it has the very real possibility of being lethal that has been shown in the nearly 70,000 deaths it is apparently responsible for.

Now last I checked grown adults in the USA and most countries on Earth are responsible for themselves and the decisions they make and the over all risk they take, When we walk out our front doors we may ideed die of a falling tree limb, or a stray bullet or even a novel virus of which there are many . None the less we walk out our doors and we live our lives, we work, we produce, we use, we laugh , we love ,we cry, we die and so it is and so it was and so it ever will be. I think it is about time we got back to it , we have all been made aware of the dangers of our current predicament with Covid-19 .

Maintain social distance - CHECK
Keep crouds to an absolute minimum - CHECK
Wear the proper PPE when ever possible - CHECK
Wash hands and sanitize - CHECK
Keep unneeded travel to an absolute minimum - CHECK
If your sick or think you might be sick self quarantine or get tested if possible - CHECK

Here is a link that goes into even more detail - www.google.com...

We must get back to work , but more over we must get back to living our lives as human beings . The mental health and social well being of all human beings is dependent on other human beings and our socializing and working together , it is our reason for living after all . Irreparable damage has been done to the planets economy, but if we keep sitting scared on out hands irreparable damage will be done to society to our minds. We are all Cogs on the great wheel that is life and we have to keep it rotating , the media keeps saying this is going to get worse .? It already is worse, worse has arrived and we cant afford to sit around waiting for more worse to arrive.

We know the dangers , we are all adults who enter into life of our own free will . Now I know someone is gong to say, we cant allow irresponsible people to endanger everyone else. Look we have been told how to be careful, how to be as prudent as we can with all the precautions given out about Covid-19 . Now lets deploy and use this new way of going about life and get back to living it shall we??

Because every day that passes people are becoming more and more restless , And every day that passes the media keeps feeding this frenzy . it may not have occurred to them and the government but people will eventually begin to crack , I dare say it will begin to get really ugly then. So I say it again lets prevent as many deaths as we can using Covid-19 prevention methods , and get back to work .

I just don't think that's the plan....

I'm sure the government is perfectly aware that people will and probably are beginning to crack.

The government is counting on it...

Logically we should be doing just as you say.....carrying on as usual but with a few extra precautions....

Personally im fine with what's happening so far...

Not frightened, not buying into the lies, not gonna get a vaccine, and generally enjoying the apocalypse because for some reason I thrive in a crisis.....

a reply to: Boadicea

I think you're right about certain preventative measures like vitamins and that certain antivirals may be overlooked as of use , even deliberately .
It's always been a problem that remedial measures are consistently ignored by the medical establishment . They purposefully avoid studying aids cured and remedies that don't involve physical intervention , profit or drugs you can't make grow or buy cheaply yourself ,in case you use them with the backing of science . They'd say , ' there's no evidence' and meanwhile , ' we re the professionals '.
This way , you're backed into a corner as a patient , and if they're coming for you on mental health grounds you ve no hope . They'll take you away if they want. Drug you cos they know better than you about yourself , it's the fascism of academia and it's # , the politics of qualifications , the exclusionism of health choices , and they're hated for it.
And now they're failing the public yet again. You'd wonder how many doctors actually know the damage they're doing people in general . This is one of reasons o hope their system dries up and they die off, it'd be a fairer planet with an healthier populous for a start . The things that have happened in the name of medicine , horrifying things like the experiments of 'dr' mengele

a reply to: DoctorBluechip

Yes! That's all part and parcel of the problem. Thank you for saying it and saying it so well

There is so much more that could have been done to educate, inform, and prepare the people, and thereby empower them to take care of themselves first, and hopefully not need medical intervention at all. I've gone from being disappointed, to disgusted, to distrusting the authorities altogether.

I would have had more respect and appreciate for their quarantine and shutdown tactics if they had first -- or at least simultaneously -- taken efforts to prepare and enable people as the first line of defense.

The fact they did not, and went immediately to the most Draconian measures, which are and will cause sooooooooo much harm on both the individual and collective level, tells me they don't have my best interests at heart.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
A newsletter is circulating around my neighborhood stating that we are no longer allowed house guests. Insert Benjamin Franklin quote about liberty and security here.

Mrs. Kravitz must be curtain twitching again

originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: TzarChasm
A newsletter is circulating around my neighborhood stating that we are no longer allowed house guests. Insert Benjamin Franklin quote about liberty and security here.

Are you are claiming that is an official newsletter from your city, town or state vs something a CT is circulating?

It's just a letter for all the residents in our building complex, the landlord apparently disapproves of our guests or neighbors mingling too much

originally posted by: Boadicea

originally posted by: TzarChasm
A newsletter is circulating around my neighborhood stating that we are no longer allowed house guests. Insert Benjamin Franklin quote about liberty and security here.

Mrs. Kravitz must be curtain twitching again

Your nosy neighbor instincts are spot on

a reply to: Boadicea

Thinking people like us certainly do not appreciate being atbitrarily subjugated on health matters and i think that defines the problem .

originally posted by: Hecate666

originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

I bet if a nationwide poll were taken, we would find that most people would rather take their chances with something that kills fewer individuals than the common flu, than to have their entire life turned upside down.

Why you keep lying bro?

Whatever you think, this is more deadly than the flu.

Whatever you say is actually not true at all. I have been posting a thread yesterday several time [can't be arsed to do it again] from the WHO from 2017, see the date there? Not 2020 but from THREE years ago, where they state that every year
~ 700000 people get a flu virus which results in pneumonia.

We haven't even scratched the surface of NORMAL flu infections or deaths yet and the world seems to have it's knockers in a twist like an imbecile with diahorrea.

Yes it seems like it, because we are hearing more of it this time round. Why? I have no idea.
Same with letting your kids out to play. Still the same amount of dangers out there as always but if the MSN get a hold of this, they could spin it so that it looks that the world is suddenly much more dangerous. which it isn't.

The point to really take notice of, is that this doesn't mean there are no dangers at all, but that these dangers have ALWAYS been the same, if not worse.

I don't know how to explain this any clearer. It's like telling Dougal [from Father Ted, UK comedy about priests] that the cow isn't "small but very far away".

This pandemic may be a bad bout of flu [which happens regularly in history and will in the future] but it ain't the bubonic plague, nor is worse than previous viral outbreaks.

If you are so concerned about human kind's health, now and in the future, we need to go out and face this thing. Like every frigging year. No vaccine can stop this as next year we will have another candidate and the year after that another one and so on.

Covoid-19 is here to stay but it is one in a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong line of corona viruses. It is merely the new kid on the block.

Meanwhile suicide rates are up, mental health is declining, people can't get life saving operations or medical care. If you are interested in not losing any unnecessary lives, being so scared of a virus that you ignore the effects of this reaction to it to secondary deaths helps nobody.

Let nature do what nature does best or we will be enslaved forever on.

Amen, if only people would listen but unfortunatly it will fall on deaf ears. Thank you for your efforts though truely thank you

originally posted by: GoShredAK

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
All Right, The time is now.

We have all been force fed information on Covid-19 several weeks now, we are all very aware of the dangers of Covid-19 . It is an airborne virus , it is very contagious, it attacks the pulmonary system, it has the very real possibility of being lethal that has been shown in the nearly 70,000 deaths it is apparently responsible for.

Now last I checked grown adults in the USA and most countries on Earth are responsible for themselves and the decisions they make and the over all risk they take, When we walk out our front doors we may ideed die of a falling tree limb, or a stray bullet or even a novel virus of which there are many . None the less we walk out our doors and we live our lives, we work, we produce, we use, we laugh , we love ,we cry, we die and so it is and so it was and so it ever will be. I think it is about time we got back to it , we have all been made aware of the dangers of our current predicament with Covid-19 .

Maintain social distance - CHECK
Keep crouds to an absolute minimum - CHECK
Wear the proper PPE when ever possible - CHECK
Wash hands and sanitize - CHECK
Keep unneeded travel to an absolute minimum - CHECK
If your sick or think you might be sick self quarantine or get tested if possible - CHECK

Here is a link that goes into even more detail - www.google.com...

We must get back to work , but more over we must get back to living our lives as human beings . The mental health and social well being of all human beings is dependent on other human beings and our socializing and working together , it is our reason for living after all . Irreparable damage has been done to the planets economy, but if we keep sitting scared on out hands irreparable damage will be done to society to our minds. We are all Cogs on the great wheel that is life and we have to keep it rotating , the media keeps saying this is going to get worse .? It already is worse, worse has arrived and we cant afford to sit around waiting for more worse to arrive.

We know the dangers , we are all adults who enter into life of our own free will . Now I know someone is gong to say, we cant allow irresponsible people to endanger everyone else. Look we have been told how to be careful, how to be as prudent as we can with all the precautions given out about Covid-19 . Now lets deploy and use this new way of going about life and get back to living it shall we??

Because every day that passes people are becoming more and more restless , And every day that passes the media keeps feeding this frenzy . it may not have occurred to them and the government but people will eventually begin to crack , I dare say it will begin to get really ugly then. So I say it again lets prevent as many deaths as we can using Covid-19 prevention methods , and get back to work .

I just don't think that's the plan....

I'm sure the government is perfectly aware that people will and probably are beginning to crack.

The government is counting on it...

Logically we should be doing just as you say.....carrying on as usual but with a few extra precautions....

Personally im fine with what's happening so far...

Not frightened, not buying into the lies, not gonna get a vaccine, and generally enjoying the apocalypse because for some reason I thrive in a crisis.....

Honestly I also thrive in these situations, I almost think I was built for them . But I see my friends and family , and the general population and they are not built for these situations, they are spoiled , fat and slow it scares me to think of them in a tough situation .

originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath

Then skool me. What should I know better?

To put it simple: this virus is too contagious and necessite too much health care to let it go unchecked. If it was so, the hospitals would be over crowded and a lot of people would not have basic cares and then die. If we wait and apply the rules for a few more weeks, there is better chance for patients to be saved. Google flatten the curve or check this one

www.livescience.com...

That is understood. BUT it ultimately makes no sense to me. It will not be a few weeks for one thing, it looks like a few months. Even then, so what? The curve is flattened, and then everyone goes back out and the curve spikes again? So what then? Another shutdown for 3 months?

This is just not possible and is overkill for a global 2% death rate that might even be lower than 2% given that there are tons of people walking around asymptomatic.

a reply to: thebtheb

The idea is that, by the time the next spike comes around, there will be 2 things which are very different from now.

1) There will be a level of natural immunity built up in the population which will inhibit the infection rate.

2) Widespread testing will actually be available (rather than just being talked about), enabling actual containment measures rather than mitigation measures to be undertaken.

a reply to: asabuvsobelow

Now last I checked grown adults in the USA and most countries on Earth are responsible for themselves and the decisions they make and the over all risk they take, When we walk out our front doors we may ideed die of a falling tree limb, or a stray bullet or even a novel virus of which there are many

With freedom comes responsibility. Not something many understand. Your idea of freedom could impinge of someone elses life for example in this case medical staff.

That simply is not acceptable. If peeps want to act doofus then they should pay the price should they not?

a reply to: Phage

I read about someone that had two type of covid at the same time. If this is the case would it mean immunity would not work. I have also heard the test for covid 19 will give a positive for any covid. Is this something you have an understanding of because if its true we could be getting a lot of false data.

a reply to: purplemer

Don't believe everything you hear.
Or make up.

a reply to: Phage

You not going to answer and I am not making stuff up. Wasnt trying to be mistruthful the other day. I see what you meant about that now. I simply quoted something for another site about the paper and did not check it correctly .

Does the mass covid 10 test give a postive for different covids?

a reply to: purplemer

Does the mass covid 10 test give a postive for different covids?

Its COVID-19. I think there are various tests which are quite specific to certain genomic sequences.

Do you have "something you read" which indicates that testing is not reliable enough to be useful?

a reply to: Phage

Its COVID-19. I think there are various tests which are quite specific to certain genomic sequences.

and that pretty much answers the question. You think means you dont know. The bulk tests do not test to genomic sequences. These are specific tests done in labs.

It gives a positive for any covid. WHich makes it very easy to bake the data.