Man Arrested For Paddleboarding In Malibu ALL BY HIMSELF

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: Observationalist

He would have still gotten a Misdemeanor for violating Gavin Newsoms order

Or not. I think the chances are better that the lifeguard would have just said "Go the f* home."

Are you a lifeguard? Do you know what’s acceptable practice for a lifeguard?

a reply to: 0zzymand0s

He wasn't surfing.
Malibu is flat.
www.surfline.com...

a reply to: Observationalist

Are you a lifeguard? Do you know what’s acceptable practice for a lifeguard?

1)No.

2) Well, I know a few. And all of them would have said "Just go the f* home" if the guy had gotten out of the water. Making an arrest is a PIA.

a reply to: Phage

That's a shame. I've never surfed Malibu or Oahu for that matter. Never had the pleasure. I surfed Seal below Long Beach a lot but that was 20+ years ago. I miss the ocean.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: vonclod

If the guy had gotten out of the water it would have been the end of it.

But WHY was he ordered out of the water in the first place? Surely it was not because he violated a "social distancing" order. What law did he break?

a reply to: schuyler

I don't know.

But I've been pulled over when I didn't know why. I didn't ignore the cop. It's not a good idea to do so.
Don't you agree?

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: vonclod

If the guy had gotten out of the water it would have been the end of it.

But WHY was he ordered out of the water in the first place? Surely it was not because he violated a "social distancing" order. What law did he break?

I agree with you..why? but it's a moot point isn't it. A person never wins an argument with the law..you have to sort it out later.

Hey may have very well been in the right. But if he was ordered to exit the water, he should have.

If you get pulled over on a mistaken identity and the cops think you're a dangerous drug dealer, you dont go reaching for your wallet to prove who you are when they're drawing down on you. You wait til things calm down and then state your case. Had he just came in and talked to them, well we probably wouldn't be reading about it right now.

Now is it over reach by the state? Yeah, I believe it is. But that's neither the time nor place to argue your feelings.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

Hey man... social distancing is serious. He might get the fish sick. Might spread his germs through the water and get the world sick.

I never quite understood that. They go on and say "you're putting other lives at risk" when the only people are you are the cops trying to take your butt to jail for breaking a law that doesn't exist.

Then you're going to put someone in jail to infect or be infected by others that are NOW around you.


I feel there's going to be a lot of lawsuits after this is over. Unfortunately, they will be exempt because... well, you know. the usual BS.

a reply to: StallionDuck

Of course, no one ever needs to be rescued. Right? Lifeguards are just there as decorations.

If the guy had gotten into trouble in the water (nah, that never happens) it would have been the lifeguard's job to come to his aid.

San Diego Lifeguard Chief James Gartland, in an article published on Surfline on Wednesday April 1, said: “By going out and surfing, you’re putting the lifeguard at risk, you’re putting the firemen at risk if you get injured, you’re putting the police officer who has to come and enforce it at risk. And then if you end up in the hospital, you’re taking a bed away from someone who might need it more than you.”

www.surfline.com...

Stay the f* at home.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Kromlech

You're right. Runners never get stacked. Besides, we're talking about paddleboarding, not lying around on the beach.

That's a marathon/race. There aren't marathons right now. We're talking about regular ol' joggers and hikers -- how they're not concentrated in droves, unlike beachgoers.

a reply to: Phage

why go through all that? He knew the risk.

If he were alone, the safety of all of those folks is a mute point.

a reply to: StallionDuck

So lifeguards are just there to pose and run in slow motion.
Got it.

If he were alone, the safety of all of those folks is a mute point.

He wasn't. There was a lifeguard on duty.

a reply to: HelloboysImbackguy

I am a veteran lifeguard. I have had a lifeguard threaten to arrest me for bodysurfing because I was too far our(he was fired about a month later).

This is going to far. The guy was not harming himself, nor is the city/government liable of the guy drowns and the red flags are up. Swim/surf at your own risk and common sense applies.

The lock down is a gross encroachment on our rights. People are being arrested for doing activities that cause no harm.

Meanwhile, President Trump and the aristocrats can still play golf with no consequences.

a reply to: jrod

So, if the guy had fallen and hit his head, the lifeguard would be expected to watch him sink.

Not on any beach I've been to.

You wouldn't believe what I've seen lifeguards do in the Waimea shorebreak to save idiots who ignored "red flags." I found it hard to believe and I was watching it happen.

"Veteran lifeguard?" Maybe. In name.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: shawmanfromny

He broke this law.

Disobeying a Lifeguard 17.12.115 LACC and Violation of Government Code 8665.

Under what authority was the lifeguard ordering him out? We've established there was no reason under the stay at home rules. He was taking outdoor recreation and practicing social distancing that is allowed per the Governor.

The authority of the State, obviously. Don't tell me you're one of those crazy people who believe the government should be constrained by the Constitution, are you? You're not one of those people who thinks you should just be allowed to assemble or exercise your religion or work to feed your family without government interference, are you? Sounds like you need some reeducation time to remember how generous the State has been in it's dealings with you.

originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: shawmanfromny

Hey man... social distancing is serious. He might get the fish sick. Might spread his germs through the water and get the world sick.

I never quite understood that. They go on and say "you're putting other lives at risk" when the only people are you are the cops trying to take your butt to jail for breaking a law that doesn't exist.

Then you're going to put someone in jail to infect or be infected by others that are NOW around you.


I feel there's going to be a lot of lawsuits after this is over. Unfortunately, they will be exempt because... well, you know. the usual BS.

Don't worry, they'll let the rapists out to make room for you monsters that still believe in "rights".

a reply to: RadioRobert

Well I do, but in this case, the state hadn't even given him the authority. Under Newsom's own order, he was allowed to go outside and take exercise so long as he was observing social distancing which he clearly was.

In this case, someone on land complained about him and law enforcement decided to arrest him regardless of the circumstances.

Phage wants to argue that he deserves to be in trouble for resisting arrest, but I'm saying he never should have had to worry about an arrest to begin with. And to say, "Well, he'll get his day in court" in this case is like saying well if he wasn't doing anything wrong, then he'll have nothing to worry about which might as well be an admission that we've transitioned to a guilty until proven innocent society and some people are OK with this so long as we comply with authority.

a reply to: ketsuko

Hope he wins a big $ civil suit. It would probably be wiser to come in when told, but it's absolutely disgusting what's happening right now -- and twofold for how many people are just cheering it on.

a reply to: ketsuko

we've transitioned to a guilty until proven innocent society

Oh bull#.
No one is guilty until they are convicted of a crime.