Does US President Have Legal Authority to Quarantine States/Cities?

a reply to: Gothmog

Nope That would be Alex Azar.

just like all cabinet postions the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services Boss is President Trump. what kind of holy hell do you think would happen if the Secretary of Health and Human Services just went ahead and ordered the CDC to a lock down the country without first talking to President.

true as as in most of the normal everyday duties the secretary can set some polices, but declare a lock down on his own is not one of them.

originally posted by: choomsuba
You are in deep denial, the power for the president to declare martial law DOES exist, I suspect you are just panicking at the thought of the “orange man” doing it!


a reply to: Gothmog

Pretend I am not from Georgia , pretend I am from Missouri , and show me...

originally posted by: Gothmog
Learn the Constitution and the powers given to the President.

You forget. Our schools don't teach Civics anymore. They teach "Social Justice".

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: Gothmog

Nope That would be Alex Azar.

just like all cabinet postions the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services Boss is President Trump. what kind of holy hell do you think would happen if the Secretary of Health and Human Services just went ahead and ordered the CDC to a lock down the country without first talking to President.

true as as in most of the normal everyday duties the secretary can set some polices, but declare a lock down on his own is not one of them.

Neither can the President.
Which is the topic at this point
And , a "lockdown" is not declaring martial law...
Period.

originally posted by: JIMC5499

originally posted by: Gothmog
Learn the Constitution and the powers given to the President.

You forget. Our schools don't teach Civics anymore. They teach "Social Justice".

"And that's a fact , Jack."

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: choomsuba
Martial law doesn’t exist because President Trump has not declared it yet, that’s it!



a reply to: Gothmog

Martial Law does not exist , period .

The military thinks it does....

www.militarytimes.com...

www.usconstitution.net...

Those are not from the US Federal military , and are in regard to the National Guard of the States in question
The governor of a State DOES have an ability to declare "martial law" in their respective state.
But , not the President.
READ

a reply to: Gothmog

And , a "lockdown" is not declaring martial law... Period.

no martial law is a off topic subject that one poster added, the OP asked if

Does US President Have Legal Authority to Quarantine States/Cities

and as the way the law reads he can through the Department of HHS. until a court has declared it unconstitutional, the law stands.

Lol


As Commander in Chief of the military President Trump has the power to declare martial law with the full force of the military to back him up, civilian law is suspended at that time.

a reply to: Gothmog

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Actually , it would be on-topic
A bit of ignorance , but still a concern for folks not in the know in these days and times.
At least , that is my readings.

originally posted by: choomsuba
Lol


As Commander in Chief of the military President Trump has the power to declare martial law with the full force of the military to back him up, civilian law is suspended at that time.

a reply to: Gothmog

I will end this here....
That power does not exist , and we are taking this slightly off-topic.
Folks really , really need to learn the subject.
There is a case when there would be a sort of martial law declared on a national / federal level
You said it in your post , but have it exactly backwards.
Done.
On to the next

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: choomsuba
Lol


As Commander in Chief of the military President Trump has the power to declare martial law with the full force of the military to back him up, civilian law is suspended at that time.

a reply to: Gothmog

I will end this here....
That power does not exist , and we are taking this slightly off-topic.
Folks really , really need to learn the subject.
There is a case when there would be a sort of martial law declared on a national / federal level
You said it in your post , but have it exactly backwards.
Done.
On to the next

The case where it would be Constitutionally warranted would be if the US were invaded by a foreign power.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: choomsuba
Lol


As Commander in Chief of the military President Trump has the power to declare martial law with the full force of the military to back him up, civilian law is suspended at that time.

a reply to: Gothmog

I will end this here....
That power does not exist , and we are taking this slightly off-topic.
Folks really , really need to learn the subject.
There is a case when there would be a sort of martial law declared on a national / federal level
You said it in your post , but have it exactly backwards.
Done.
On to the next

The case where it would be Constitutionally warranted would be if the US were invaded by a foreign power.

trump called it the China virus, does that make it a foreign power....as in bioweapon.

originally posted by: butcherguy

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: choomsuba
Lol


As Commander in Chief of the military President Trump has the power to declare martial law with the full force of the military to back him up, civilian law is suspended at that time.

a reply to: Gothmog

I will end this here....
That power does not exist , and we are taking this slightly off-topic.
Folks really , really need to learn the subject.
There is a case when there would be a sort of martial law declared on a national / federal level
You said it in your post , but have it exactly backwards.
Done.
On to the next

The case where it would be Constitutionally warranted would be if the US were invaded by a foreign power.

Actually , if the President performs an action against the US and it's Constitution , the military could relieve that President of duty , suspend Congress , and the highest ranking military officer would take command over the US until order was restored.
My last statement on the subject .
Peace to all

That would be very easy to do. He only need to say he's against that.

Pelosi immediately will try to push it. Then he will say "OK, you convinced me".

There are a list of instances where martial law has occurred in US over our history, including cases in the 20th Century (even in the second half of the century), and they were not all challenged in the courts.

New Orleans, Louisiana in the War of 1812, Nauvoo, Illinois, during the Illinois Mormon War, Utah during the Utah War, Ex parte Milligan, The Great Chicago Fire, San Francisco earthquake of 1906, Colorado Coalfield War, West Virginia Coal Wars, The Territory of Hawaii, .

Then you have this example of a law that Congress passed authorizing the POTUS to declare martial law... John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007.

a bill passed in the United States Congress on September 29, 2006, and signed by President George W. Bush on October 17, 2006, becoming Public Law 109-364. In addition to allocating funding for the armed forces, it also gave the president the power to declare martial law and to take command of the National Guard units of each state without the consent of state governors.

Wikipedia: Martial Law in the US
The John Warner National Defense Act of 2007 was amended the following year to read as this:

`Sec. 333. Interference with State and Federal law `The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or by any other :means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy, if it-- `(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the United States within the State, that any part or class of its people is deprived of a right, :privilege, immunity, or protection named in the Constitution and secured by law, and :the constituted authorities of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that :right, privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or `(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United States or impedes :the course of justice under those laws. In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered to have :denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the Constitution.'

Under "Emergency powers" the president can lock-down the entire country, if he wants to. That's what Dr. Fauci was advocating last night.

Actually, those questioning the president’s authority to declare martial law could be arrested for treason.


a reply to: Gothmog

originally posted by: carewemust
Under "Emergency powers" the president can lock-down the entire country, if he wants to. That's what Dr. Fauci was advocating last night.

And that's exactly what is going to happen. More people out of work, the market will crash, and that will be trumps legacy.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: choomsuba
Yes, if the president declares martial law.

Which does not exist.

Exactly . Therefore it is up to the American Public's Discretion whether or Not to Comply with Any Requests from State or Federal Government Unconstitutional Edicts .

originally posted by: choomsuba
Yes, if the president declares martial law.

Exactly. And ONLY if he declares martial law.