Lets sanction China for the Covid-19 outbreak

originally posted by: lakenheath24
Its not up to governments to punish china. Its up to each of us, and our wallets.

Put down that cheap chinese plastic toy and buy your kid a bond/stock instead.

Look at the "Made in" tags, and put it back if its MADE IN. CHINA.

Lol. I'm pretty sure there would be a sizeable freakout, cries of racism, and fear mongering of nationalism if there were even simply commercials promoting "Buy made in the USA."

originally posted by: jtma508
But where will Trump and his minions get their MAGA hats? They're all made in China (you didn't actually think Trump would pay the extra to have them made in the USA do you).

Why is China at fault? They had no warning when the virus popped-up. Took the steps necessary to identify it and assess the risk, and then locked-down their country. Despite having a population 4.5 times that of the US, we currently have more cases per capita and our situation is only beginning to get bad while China's has abated. We had 3 months of advanced warning.

So no, it isn't China's fault. Nature does this. The virus could have just as easily emerged in India, Brazil, or any other country with high densities of lower socio-economic cohorts. Placing blame on another country serves no purpose other than trying to put up a smokescreen for this country's abysmal handling of the crisis --- from recalling CDC liaisons in China to shuttering the Pandemic Response Team by John Bolton in 2018.

Exactly, the entire world had 3 months of warning. What the US government did? Criticized China when they took extreme measures to contain the virus. If theres anyone to blame for the covid19 problem in the US his name is donald trump.

"And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done."

Seems to me that the deniers are starting to see that this # is real and are already looking for someone to blame

originally posted by: purplemer
This was fundamentally like many viruses of the world caused by meat eating. This is the primary source of such types of virus and many more. This is not conjecture it is scientific fact.

Rotflmao! Fact? No, it is pure unadulterated poppy cock.

But thanks for the belly laugh!

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Arnie123

There was no pandemic in 2018 and none existed prior before, the simple choice of shuttering something not needed was just a perfect firestorm for a real world pandemic in late 2019, early 2020. Absolutely ChInas fault.

No its primary cause is mass animal agriculture just like most viruses that plague humanity.

Adleast be honest about it and take some responsibility.

No this was tainted LAB animals sold in a market that started this. Lab animals are never meant to be sold as meat that were test subjects for viruses.
Stop with your vegan fear mongering.

Dunno, can you?
As a consumer you should do your own research.

a reply to: carewemust

By who? Mostly people that i dont care about anyway so who cares.

Remember, this was wally worlds corporate motto in the 80's when Sam was running the place.

a reply to: AutomateThis1

a reply to: tanstaafl

Rotflmao! Fact? No, it is pure unadulterated poppy cock. But thanks for the belly laugh!

Would you like a list of such viruses so you can go and check yourself or would you prefer to remain ignorant and leave this conversation here?

a reply to: yuppa

No this was tainted LAB animals sold in a market that started this. Lab animals are never meant to be sold as meat that were test subjects for viruses.

That is conjecture on your part. Was the last Sars outbreak from a lab or the swine flu outbreaks too. What about avian flu or tb..

lol

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: tanstaafl
"Rotflmao! Fact? No, it is pure unadulterated poppy cock. But thanks for the belly laugh!"

Would you like a list of such viruses so you can go and check yourself or would you prefer to remain ignorant and leave this conversation here?

Providing a list of viruses doesn't prove they were caused by 'meat eating'.

That is purely laughable, on its face.

originally posted by: Zcustosmorum
a reply to: StrangeQuark96

I'm just going to leave this here

From 2015:

Ralph Baric, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, last week (November 9) published a study on his team’s efforts to engineer a virus with the surface protein of the SHC014 coronavirus, found in horseshoe bats in China, and the backbone of one that causes human-like severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in mice. The hybrid virus could infect human airway cells and caused disease in mice, according to the team’s results, which were published in Nature Medicine.

www.the-scientist.com...

nice post

Virus could have been made in America and unleashed on China however most would never believe it.
SMH

PS:
The rabbit hole goes deep!
Look into who funded and set up the lab in Wuhan?
DOD & DARPA

Who funded bio weapons programs with bats?
DARPA

Who made the outfits for military athletes at Wuhan games?
Milan Italy epicenter of Italian outbreak

www.unz.com...
The Pentagon in Wuhan?

Beyond the U.S. military’s recent expenditures on and interest in the use of bats of bioweapons, it is also worth examining the recent studies the military has funded regarding bats and “novel coronaviruses,” such as that behind the recent outbreak, that have taken place within or in close proximity to China.

For instance, one study conducted in Southern China in 2018 resulted in the discovery of 89 new “novel bat coronavirus” strains that use the same receptor as the coronavirus known as Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS). That study was jointly funded by the Chinese government’s Ministry of Science and Technology, USAID — an organization long alleged to be a front for U.S. intelligence, and the U.S. National Institute of Health — which has collaborated with both the CIA and the Pentagon on infectious disease and bioweapons research.

The authors of the study also sequenced the complete genomes for two of those strains and also noted that existing MERS vaccines would be ineffective in targeting these viruses, leading them to suggest that one should be developed in advance. This did not occur.

Another U.S. government-funded study that discovered still more new strains of “novel bat coronavirus” was published just last year. Titled “Discovery and Characterization of Novel Bat Coronavirus Lineages from Kazakhstan,” focused on “the bat fauna of central Asia, which link China to eastern Europe” and the novel bat coronavirus lineages discovered during the study were found to be “closely related to bat coronaviruses from China, France, Spain, and South Africa, suggesting that co-circulation of coronaviruses is common in multiple bat species with overlapping geographical distributions.” In other words, the coronaviruses discovered in this study were identified in bat populations that migrate between China and Kazakhstan, among other countries, and is closely related to bat coronaviruses in several countries, including China.

The study was entirely funded by the U.S. Department of Defense, specifically the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) as part of a project investigating coronaviruses similar to MERS, such as the aforementioned 2018 study. Yet, beyond the funding of this 2019 study, the institutions involved in conducting this study are also worth noting given their own close ties to the U.S. military and government.

The study’s authors are affiliated with either the Kazakhstan-based Research Institute for Biological Safety Problems and/or Duke University. The Research Institute for Biological Safety Problems, though officially a part of Kazakhstan’s National Center for Biotechnology, has received millions from the U.S. government, most of it coming from the Pentagon’s Cooperative Threat Reduction Program. It is the Kazakhstan government’s official depository of “highly dangerous animal and bird infections, with a collection of 278 pathogenic strains of 46 infectious diseases.” It is part of a network of Pentagon-funded “bioweapons labs” throughout the Central Asian country, which borders both of the U.S.’ top rival states — China and Russia.

Duke University’s involvement with this study is also interesting given that Duke is a key partner of DARPA’s Pandemic Prevention Platform (P3) program, which officially aims “to dramatically accelerate discovery, integration, pre-clinical testing, and manufacturing of medical countermeasures against infectious diseases.” The first step of the Duke/DARPA program involves the discovery of potentially threatening viruses and “develop[ing] methods to support viral propagation, so that virus can be used for downstream studies.”

Duke University is also jointly partnered with China’s Wuhan University, which is based in the city where the current coronavirus outbreak began, which resulted in the opening of the China-based Duke Kunshan University (DKU) in 2018. Notably, China’s Wuhan University — in addition to its partnership with Duke — also includes a multi-lab Institute of Medical Virology that has worked closely with the US Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases since the 1980s, according to its website. As previously noted, the USAMRIID facility in the U.S. was shut down last July for failures to abide by biosafety and proper waste disposal procedures, but was allowed to partially resume some experiments late last November.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Providing a list of viruses doesn't prove they were caused by 'meat eating'. That is purely laughable, on its face.

It provides enough insight that if you want you can go and confirm for yourself. It is the general scientific consenus. Of course you may know better? They are classified as Zoonitic diseases which is a group that can be further sub divided.

Wjy dont you look up the origins of the viruses I listed above and then you will understand why its not you laughing its your ignorance being laughed at.

Happy days

:-)

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: tanstaafl
It provides enough insight that if you want you can go and confirm for yourself. It is the general scientific consenus. Of course you may know better? They are classified as Zoonitic diseases which is a group that can be further sub divided.

The fact that viruses can be transmitted from animals to humans has nothing to do with 'eating meat', other than the fact that animals are made of meat, and we eat them.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: tanstaafl
It provides enough insight that if you want you can go and confirm for yourself. It is the general scientific consenus. Of course you may know better? They are classified as Zoonitic diseases which is a group that can be further sub divided.

The fact that viruses can be transmitted from animals to humans has nothing to do with 'eating meat', other than the fact that animals are made of meat, and we eat them.

That person has been trolling a lot of the covid threads with their vegan propaganda since last week. Pay them no mind.

originally posted by: face23785
That person has been trolling a lot of the covid threads with their vegan propaganda since last week. Pay them no mind.

Gotcha... thanks for the heads up...

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: tanstaafl

Providing a list of viruses doesn't prove they were caused by 'meat eating'. That is purely laughable, on its face.

It provides enough insight that if you want you can go and confirm for yourself. It is the general scientific consenus. Of course you may know better? They are classified as Zoonitic diseases which is a group that can be further sub divided.

Wjy dont you look up the origins of the viruses I listed above and then you will understand why its not you laughing its your ignorance being laughed at.

Happy days

:-)

Scientific consesnsus.. Oh like Global warming being totally man made or how back in the 90s we would be on fire by now?
Evidence suggests that the 2009 H1N1 influenza virus has existed and evolved in nature for some time prior to being detected in humans.
SO in all the times humans were eating them they didnt get it.

the CDC says the one in 2009 was a result of viruses mutating to infect humans,by touching them or their excretions or blood.
Properly killed pigs are not dangerous when done properly.

SO yes vegan propaganda is what you are spitting.

a reply to: yuppa

Many zoonotics are spread through particles is does not have involve direct consumption of the meat.
The vectors are many. The result the same.

I just hope that this virus will go away soon.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: StrangeQuark96

Lets sanction China for the Covid-19 outbreak

Good Idea...

www.cnn.com...

Sanctioning a country is not racist. Just like stopping flights to and from China wasn’t racist. Are Mexico and Canada racist for closing their boarders with the US? Cnn could go to hell with all their bs propaganda !!

originally posted by: rickymouse
scitechdaily.com...

This isn't China's fault

Hmmmm. Yes, yes it it 100%

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