Dern Phone

Like many, I have found myself rather glued to my phone. Perhaps more in recent times than before, but realistically.. For years. Its almost always within 10 feet of me, I sleep with it near me, etc.
I have also been experiencing a deep unease for a while now. It comes in waves. I am not exactly the type to unsettle easily, but there is a lot going on too. The nagging sensation that I kept getting was that that unease, however, was "not my own." Im not sure how better to describe it, and I only mentioned it in passing (perhaps here on ATS?).

On a whim, I decided to just set my phone as far away from my body as possible. I figured Id just take a break from the information overload by doing so.

However, within a half hour to an hour.. That constant feeling had completely subsided. I suspected that maybe it was just another "wave" of whatever, but hours later now.. And I havent felt this clear headed and just.. myself.. in a while now. Its been such a profound shift, in fact, that before drifting off into what I expect to be a better sleep than Ive gotten in a while, I figured Id throw this out there.

Maybe walk away from the phone for an hour or two? Half a day phone detox?

Not in the philosophical sense either, but physically put it in another room, or floor, etc. Id be curious to hear if anyone has a similar experience. My phone isnt super new, but it is newer (LG G7).

I mean, its wierd, thus Gray Area..

a reply to: Serdgiam

I may try that for a day to see if I note a difference.

Cheers

a reply to: Serdgiam

I always have my phone on silent now unless I'm expecting a call or my wife is out of the house. I don't have any notifications turned on either. My phone just sits there unless I'm using it and it's nice. Sometimes I forget it even exists.

For almost 5 years I had two phones with me 24/7/365 and it's been a nice change not waking up and checking my phone to make sure I didn't miss any calls or texts. I took me 5 or 6 months to get used to just being able to sleep with no constant worry about missing something. Sometimes it's nice not to feel needed.

a reply to: Ksihkehe

I don't think op was referring to the phone ringing and annoying you so much as to the electro magnetic fields that acompany it.

a reply to: Serdgiam

I had mobile phone but don't anymore. ( 3 years) Just rely on my 'land line' which is so much cheaper. Got a phone that takes messages so if I don't want to speak with the person/s I don't ring back.

The land line gives me my computer access. I'm not distracted when I'm driving or walking in public.

Don't need it.

Kind regards,

Bally

I tried, but there are too many peeps on ATS that need to hear my witty replies. 😂🤣😅😂🤣😅😛😛😛

a reply to: Serdgiam

Maybe that's why I'm actually enjoying my time so much.

Not just in this (apparent) pandemic, but on a daily basis.

I DO NOT USE A MOBILE PHONE.

No contact for me is a natural way of living and is a personal choice that eliminates so much stress.

I surprised myself yesterday when I realised it was the weekend. I hadn't actually considered or needed to consider the day of the week. My record so far is being four days out...lol

I love it.

What I don't love is the feeling deep down that most people are going to go off the rails so easily.

I have to use a mobile phone for work, so I don't take my personal phone with me. More often that not, I leave my phone at home when I go out and it is on Airplane mode about 80% of the time because I don't want anyone calling me. It is a useful gadget for staying in contact with my daughters and the rest of my family. I don't use any social media on it.

The most use it gets is watching Netflix in bed or listening to music on Spotify and I use it as a camera when I remember to take it out with me.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Yeah, not talking about putting it on silent, etc. but putting physically as far away as possible. I also tried just turning it off, but still having it near me, and that didnt seem to have the same impact.

Thought it was silly, but here we are..

There is research about the impact of EMF on us. Though plenty of it is more.. blogging, the actual research is pretty interesting.

Hadnt put much thought into any of it until this morning.



I woke up this morning feeling more "normal" than for a while.

In thinking about it, those I know that seem to be handling things best also are more likely to be "disconnected."

Not anything like completely off the grid or anything, or even unaware of any news, but it does appear roughly proportional in those I know.

The only times Ive felt that "unease" (its a strange feeling) were when making the initial post, and this one.

Maybe I should just chuck it out the window

a reply to: Serdgiam

For sure. Look up "dopamine fast".

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

they have done studies on peoples addictions to phones and the of not having it with you.

there's a name for that. it's Nomophobia,

To avoid feelings of distress, you might do everything possible to keep your phone close and make sure you can use it. These behaviors could appear to suggest dependency on your phone.
For example, you might:
take it to bed, the bathroom, even the shower
check it constantly, even several times in an hour, to make sure it’s working and that you haven’t missed a notification spend several hours a day using your phone
feel helpless without your phone
make sure you can see it whenever it isn’t in your hand or pocket

Afraid of Losing Your Phone? There’s a Name for That: Nomophobia

originally posted by: kosmicjack
a reply to: Serdgiam

For sure. Look up "dopamine fast".

While definitely a thing, Im not sure its the same thing..

For more info, I havent used "normal" social media in years. I even stopped using ATS because I felt all of our systems have been derived from models that get people addicted to extreme emotions. Literally addicted to the dopamine hits.

This was more like discovering my pseudo security blanket was a roll of rusty razor wire all along. And, Ive only really been using it to shop and watch educational Youtube vids.

Nearly immediate "relief," rather than what a lot of us have talked about for years (things like nomophobia, general technology addiction, dopamine hits, even "FOMO").

Its quite literally the opposite of what Id expect when removing something that has been within ~15` for years. I always thought it was the software platforms themselves (like Twitter), but Im beginning to suspect its the physical hardware too. Thats.. A different conversation that I never gave much time towards.

I strongly suggest it.. Not just airplane mode, or being careful about what we slather our minds in (also important, imo).. But putting the damn thing as physically far away from our bodies as possible.

I didnt need to turn it off, or anything like that, to start feeling much different. Just had to put it far, far away.

Very interesting serdgiam

Im not sure about your sensations, your not very precise describing it.

I had some similar strange energetic sensations.
There where days where it felt like my head was going to explode, as if something would be pushing all my blood into my head. and others smoth as a summer breeze.
Didn't really align with my mobile use, which is daily and intense.
But I came across the schumann resonance, and after two weeks checking it out I can with certainty say it has something to do, with it.
there is always the possibility that it's my mind i thought the first time but after not checking it out a whole day and feeling like a mayonnaise tube about to burst, and then seeing the frequency was trough the roof that day, and the same with not feeling anything, and the frequency was smoth, I'm pretty sure that's what I was feeling.

You are probably very sensible to electromagnetic, maybe you want to check on that schumann resonance and see if you notice some unusual feelings when it spikes.

daily updated schumann resonance
It's an interesting topic on itself, and there is alot of material to read about.
wiki


Did you noticed a change with your hand-dust issue, having your mobile with you vs. Having it far away?

Sincerely NC

a reply to: NoConspiracy

It's possible something is interfeering with he earth's EMF, could explain the birds dropping out of the sky, and other strange afflictions to animals that appears to be related.

As far as I'm concerned until some one has a good explanation anything is on the table.

a reply to: Serdgiam

Do you have SPSby the way... I do and so does most of my blood family.
I have noticed the TV has been making me feel that feeling even when on stand by, the eeeeee sound is getting louder also.
My SPS has been on the steady increase lately, maybe the increase is to do with me becoming more aware of the subtle energies around me, I'm not sure Tbh but I can't help but think thus could be a natural process of the earth that is making people more aware of what's happening, hence the constant distractions by the maelstrom media.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

You probably won't get a good explanation.
science would have to make a major paradigm shift, in order to explain these things in any coherent way...

Sincerely NC

a reply to: NoConspiracy

Oh.. Theres no "probably" about it! I am definitely sensitive to EMF. When I was much younger, I thought I was super psychic until I started to reach that questioning age (preteen/teen). When I actually explored it though, I found the vast majority of experiences were traced back to an EMF source like a malfunctioning breaker box or even some VLF standing waves (not exactly EM..).

The tiny little percentage that couldnt be explained away still interest me to this day though.

I struggle to explain the feeling. Ive never felt anything more than low level anxiety in my life. After my first "seizure," where I was unconscious for days, had a severed femoral head, broken ribs, etc.. I woke up, dragged myself to my phone (took hours and hours..), and called my dad to ask him what day it was. I then proceeded to argue with him that I was fine, and absolutely did not need to go to the ER. I wasnt thinking clearly, obviously, but during it all I never felt much more anxiety than "damn, this aint fun."

Due to this, as well as some of the stuff I used to work on (VERY sensitive electronics), I live in a faraday cage

The vague feeling Im describing didnt necessarily align with my mobile use either, other than when I actually set the phone in another room for a while. Before that, it was just spikes and troughs.

And yes, now that you mention it.. The hand dust thing has indeed cleared up. Good catch on that NC. Perhaps noteworthy is that I still shock everything I touch. Its been years of that, and to be honest, it made some of my work a huge, huge PITA. Every dog I know winces as they walk up to me to get their scritches lol.. I give the best scritches on the planet though, so we deal with it.

@hopenot: Thats kinda where Im at. A lot of this isnt new for me, but that anxiety certainly is (well.. was). I could see the mass amounts of EM soup we live in having negative effects. If thats the case though.. Then what? Most I could ever see happening is a move to wired over wireless, myself included.

@ManyMasks: Something like SPS fits in a lot of ways, though some.. not so much. I have no issues with loud noises, have an exceedingly high pain threshold, etc. Actually, a lot of the descriptions are very, very much the opposite than how I am.

I think I know that "eeeeeee" noise you are talking about though. Cant say Ive noticed it get worse, but CRT TVs were always the worst for me.



Ive been pretty stringent about phone use lately, as well as turning off all wireless technology at night. Frankly, its made a huge difference. That anxiety was part of it, but there were a lot of other things too. Tough to go into all of them, but its been a staggeringly positive change.

As someone who has worked directly with electronics A LOT (mostly low voltage), both as an end user and a creator, its been a bit tough to break habits.. But worth it.

Stays in my car. Pretty much.

They get pissed off when you don't keep your collar close.