Sexual Abuse and Violence Against Women In African States

a reply to: LogicalGraphitti

No not really, i said each and all of them.

Yes humans seem to have an inclination towards such atrocities, just like animals, what i can't stand are humans that think they have the moral high ground because they are Christians and call out other cultures for their atrocities when their culture isn't any better...

That's all!
sorry if I couldn't make my. Point clearer in the first place.

Sincerely NC

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Kakamega

It is not Christianity gone wrong. It is everything gone wrong. Muslims stone women in pits for adultery there.

Yea.. when morals, education, and civility are low; most religions can be used as an excuse for violence.

It's too bad Africa has so many problems. It does seem like a beautiful continent.

It would be nice if the virus only wiped out the terrible people in life. And we could start fresh with a humanity who has empathy and morals.

Yes, it would. You made me laugh. A virus that attacks evil people. Yes, Africa is beautiful and so many of her people. I am broken with it all. It has sent me crazy. What I have learned I can't live with. I am not sure how things are gonna be post lockdown. I almost feel like I wish I could get out of this now. I'm so haunted. I tried to be a good person in this world. It is not possible. It breaks you eventually.

I've gone a bit bonkers right now I'm afraid.

originally posted by: NoConspiracy a reply to: LogicalGraphitti No not really, i said each and all of them. Yes humans seem to have an inclination towards such atrocities, just like animals, what i can't stand are humans that think they have the moral high ground because they are Christians and call out other cultures for their atrocities when their culture isn't any better... That's all! sorry if I couldn't make my. Point clearer in the first place. Sincerely NC

If you notice in my opening post I did say that we were as bad with the way the priests and the big businessmen have behaved.

Yes, I am better than that. I don't beat women. I never even went behind a woman's back once. I have been loyal all through. Yes, I am better than that. That is why I know we all can be better than that. I call out the Catholic Priests just the same, the Harvey and Epstein types, all of them. Abuse is abuse. It knows no boundaries of race. However, we have to admit that Africa has the worst abuses on the planet right now. Study it for yourself and you will see plainly. It is not racist to point out behaviours and statistics. No more using the "racist" word to close down discussion. It is not a "get out of jail free" card.

a reply to: Kakamega

Never mind

a reply to: Kakamega

Well hang in there mate. Try not to lose your head.

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Kakamega

Well hang in there mate. Try not to lose your head.

I'm being her Knight in shining armour and I help her. I send her money and counsel her. I can't help everyone, but I can help her. I don't ask anything of her. I have nobody in the world, no children, so I can be a kind of godfather to her. I am determined to protect her. My goodness, if I told you all that she has been through. To see such a beautiful woman having been through this horror, to know it is common place, well you come out of that sinking or swimming so I must swim. Sorry to burden you folks with this, but we have got to start thinking as a world when we come through this. We really could make it better for us all if we had the will.

I will practice what I preach. That is all I can do. I have had months of this and it has got on top of me as I am stuck here with it all building up in my mind with nobody to cool me out.

a reply to: NoConspiracy

Mess we created? As an ex African I absolutely hate it when people who've never been there nor lived there say this crap. Get over it colonalism was a thing and still is a thing as China are now colonising parts of Africa in their droves but do I hear anything about that? Nope not a whisper

Many great things came out of colonisation including education sanitation farming practices etc. Most conquered/colonised nations take on board the advances brought by their colonisers, e.g. us here in GB we took many things from the colonisation by the Romans. The Africans chose to destroy everything that was created when the evil white man left and are now little better off than they were 100yrs ago. South Africa was a global economy and its now defunct. Many of the smaller nations around southern Africa were responsible for the production of food for a huge area of Africa, this is why it was called the bread basket of Africa, but the Africans decided to destroy the farmland and the farmers. Now places like Zimbabwe are actively encouraging white farmers to return.

I don't deny the bad at all I disagreed with apartheid strongly (we didn't have it in Zimbabwe) but the African mentality is very different to ours the work ethic is very different and the culture differs vastly state to state to the point whereby most countries have been at tribal war with each other for decades
/rant over

originally posted by: NoConspiracy
a reply to: Kakamega
you are right it was and is alwaya the same.

but we have to agree then that Christianity isn't any better. Because, burning people on the stacks, waging wars all over the world in their name, and recently child molesters, not any better from my point of view.

So no superior god no superior morals, just empty words... By each and all of them, including Christianity.

who gives any one the right to judge any other cultures rituals in the light of Christianitys history?

You can fool some people some time but....

Sincerely NC

As long as you are stuck in blame Christianity, blame the West, blame western culture, you can never see the truth.

You are too steeped in liberal ideology which blames Christians for every single problem in the entire world, even if it was going on thousands of years before Christianity. This is the liberal bias and inability to see beyond the liberal line that all liberals and Christian haters must toe. To open ones mind is totally unacceptable, so very sad.

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

I have been to rural Madagascar, where they still practiced ancestry cult and the difference to the western influenced cities was like day and night. The rural people were happy with their simple lives, whereas the city dwellers were suffering the most horrible poverty I have seen so far. And this is because we try to implement a economic model that doesn't fit their working ethics. And yes the Chinese are deforestating the whole island.

Ever wonder why many of the mainland borders are straight lines? And interestingly these tribal wars are happening mostly in these regions. That's all stuff our colonialism did, and its obvios that it creates a mess, when you go somewhere and just draw lines not respecting the already existing tribes and their territories.
And yes the romans were a bit cleverer in that aspect.

Sincerely NC

a reply to: The2Billies

And you are to steeped in the left vs. Right ideology.

You are right it's always an indication of closed mindedness if you trow all into one pot.

There is but one thing you can apply to every part of the isle, and that is there are idiots everywhere!

NC

originally posted by: Kakamega
I thought you Masons are supposed to know about history???

I do, read your own friggin source:

The human sacrifice conducted at Nemi was thought to be highly unusual by the ancients.

How many Christians did Nero sacrifice????

Possibly not many at all, there was no law against Christianity at that time although one source claims they were suspected of arson in the 64AD fire at Rome.

It is unclear whether Christians were persecuted solely under the charge of organized arson or for other general crimes associated with Christianity. Because Tertullian mentions an institutum Neronianum in his apology "To the Nations", scholars also debate the possibility of a creation of a law or decree against the Christians under Nero. However, it has been argued that in context, the institutum Neronianum merely describes the anti-Christian activities; it does not provide a legal basis for them. Furthermore, no known writers show knowledge of a law against Christians. Source

How many captured and slaves were fed to the lions by the Babylonians and Romans?

For the Romans? Probably not many, they were a valuable commodity and there were laws on how they could be treated. You must be thinking of condemned criminals, occasionally they were executed in historical reenactments or allowed to be killed by animals.

I have thousands of reputable links.

Sure you do, captain, post one showing the Romans 'sacrificing their first born in the fire to their idols'.

originally posted by: The2Billies

The people who decry slavery and blame slavery and racism for every problem in the world and constantly cry racism.
they stick their heads in the sand and pretend that all of history and current slavery doesn't exist.
because it messes with their narrative of hate for white people

This is a form of racism that people in the western world won't acknowledge. Instead they want to blame themselves and pretend it is all their fault so they can self-flaggluate and label people with tags of racism.

Its not that they won't acknowledge ....... it's that they can't acknowledge

because they have been indoctrinated to believe that only white people can be racist!

This prevents seeing the world as it is.

An unequal playing field.

If you say slavery is evil, then it is evil regardless of who does it and what race they are, it must be acknowledged and stopped.

Same with abuse of women: This goes hand in hand with the subtle acceptance of slavery by the rest of the world because it destroy's their "white people are the problem" narrative.
Slavery and abuse of women is evil, regardless of a persons race, which has nothing to do with actual slavery or abuse of women.
Abuse of women is accepted and legal in many Islamic countries and countries that are predominately Islamic, because women are considered by the religion to be worth 1/2 of what a man is worth. Making women sub-human in that 14th century culture.

Due to the indoctrinated machoism of the male......... there is one word missing

from their collective vocabulary *RESPECT* for the female of the species.

I hear lots of feminists say, it is their culture, we must respect their culture, that women are worth 1/2 of a man, and can be beaten or killed at will and their education and freedom of movement limited. Really?
That is an awful rationalization for not caring about abuse of women. It is racist of them to cry "culture" to excuse abuse of women. It is evil to say, just because the women accept the abuse (because they are forced to by the Islamic males) - they enjoy it, they want it - so it is ok to abuse them, they asked for it.

Culture has grown in many ways, so it is unacceptable for men to still be treating

and abusing women as lesser beings. Again ......*RESPECT*

You are racist for pointing out that slavery has been black on black for thousands upon thousands of years longer than white on black - and in return ignore it is even happening and don't want to know it is happening still in Africa.
You are an Islamphobe for pointing out that abuse of women is wrong, even if it is cultural, even if it is ingrained in areligion that refuses to move into the 21st. century.

If you feel like that ...... time to put on your 'big boy pants' and stand up for

what you believe in.

I don't care what anyone calls me...... right is right and wrong is wrong!!