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Sexual Abuse and Violence Against Women In African States

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posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 07:11 AM
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I'm not a blackman, but I have a fair few thousand "friends" from all over Africa. You would not believe what I have been told and seen from the videos posted! It is barbaric.

I had a young woman who befriended me and told me all about her life:

She was constantly beaten and sexually abused, had hot coals poured on her, got kicked in the stomach while pregnant and had a miscarriage losing one of her ovaries in the process. She is only 24 now and has been through all that. Her husband's family was able to pay off the police in Kenya and they warned her not him to keep quiet about it. Nothing was done to him. That is how Kenya operates, believe it.

A guy told me he would threaten to beat his sister if she would not pray and was saying she had a demon that he should beat out of her. Obviously he has been deleted a long time ago.

I have seen terrible videos of beatings, children with whipping wounds on their backs. The police use big sticks and wack everybody to keep order. It is learned behavour. The abuser is abused as a child and just carries it on. I was all up for many years to fight for Africa, but what am I fighting for, this?

I am blown to pieces. I just wanted to care and to try to make the world better. It is not possible. Humans are violent to the core. It is not so much better in the West. There is still so much sexual abuse and violence against women as we know from all the emerging grim details. Is there nothing that can change us? Is this what we are? Even the priests were abusing.

I am sorry to say it, but sometimes I wish this virus would wipe the floor with us and make a huge pile of corpses to teach us a lesson, but I bet even then we still would not learn.

I ask myself is there any hope? To Nature we are the Covid-19. We are the virus. Mother Nature's Covid-19 is her antibodies fighting the infection that is us. You know, after all this if we don't change the next time will make this look like a holiday. I know it is a warning. If we carry on our behaviour nature will really hit us next time and very soon.

I have looked intently at this world and I am destroyed by the horror of it. I am not a selfish man. I am altruistic and caring. I hate the way we are. I really do.

Can we get just one thing right? Can we at least stop beating and abusing women and children? Is even that possible with us?



EDIT: Just so you know I am real and telling the truth here:




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posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 07:27 AM
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Maybe the solution is spread of Islam throughout Africa.
Women and innocents are afforded a lot of protection through Sharia laws.

a reply to: Kakamega



posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 07:30 AM
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a reply to: Kakamega

You know I have seen them burning old ladies' houses down and throwing them inside because they call them witches. I've seeen old ladies beaten, men stoned and murdered in pits. This is all going on right now.

Where is the UN in all this? Where is anybody? All those bastard capitalists do is make money. They have no care. They just turn a blind eye, take, take, take, rob and exploit. They bribe the governments so they can exploit. The governments in most African states are crooked criminals.

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posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 07:33 AM
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originally posted by: choomsuba
Maybe the solution is spread of Islam throughout Africa.
Women and innocents are afforded a lot of protection through Sharia laws.

a reply to: Kakamega



Is this sarcasm? 😂



posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 07:35 AM
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originally posted by: choomsuba
Maybe the solution is spread of Islam throughout Africa.
Women and innocents are afforded a lot of protection through Sharia laws.

a reply to: Kakamega



I can't see it being helpful as all Boko Haram do is kill, murder, kidnap and rape Christian and other women. Hmmm, are Boker Harem not Muslim? They are. What about the Somali Muslim terrorists in kenya. They shoot up schools of Christians. Your suggestion is pretty mocking in this light do you not think?

I have Biafran friends and the Nigerian Muslims treat them like dirt. They stop them working and impoverish them, not even giving them proper education. There have been over 500 Biafrans killed the beginning of this year alone....by Muslims.

Seems like a bit of a weird and contradictory solution to me.


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posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 07:35 AM
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originally posted by: Atsbhct

originally posted by: choomsuba
Maybe the solution is spread of Islam throughout Africa.
Women and innocents are afforded a lot of protection through Sharia laws.

a reply to: Kakamega



Is this sarcasm? 😂


My point exactly, Sir.



posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 07:42 AM
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originally posted by: choomsuba
Maybe the solution is spread of Islam throughout Africa.
Women and innocents are afforded a lot of protection through Sharia laws.

a reply to: Kakamega

Are you out of your mind? Token "protections" aside, the abuse of women (and children) in the Muslim world easily rivals that of Africa. Both are disgustingly barbaric and misogynistic.



posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 07:44 AM
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a reply to: Kakamega


because they call them witches.


This sounds like Christianity gone wrong...

we should have just stayed out in the first place they had their culture based on ancestry worship and it worked fine for them for thousands of years. Along comes the white superior man with his superior morals and superior God.... Et voila...

Na we are not going to apologize for the mess we caused, we will just point with the finger at these savages...

Disgusting indeed...

Sincerely NC



posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: NoConspiracy a reply to: Kakamega

because they call them witches.
This sounds like Christianity gone wrong...
we should have just stayed out in the first place they had their culture based on ancestry worship and it worked fine for them for thousands of years. Along comes the white superior man with his superior morals and superior God.... Et voila... Na we are not going to apologize for the mess we caused, we will just point with the finger at these savages... Disgusting indeed...




Hmmm, you are projecting blame. Who is holding the stick to do the beating? Who has a culture of paying off police? Is that Christian. No, of course it is not. This is not the cause. Did you know Africa has the greatest slavery anywhere in the world now?

en.wikipedia.org...

Slavery was in Africa long before the Europeans and Arabs came. Egypt is in Africa. Thousands of years ago they were using slaves for the military and construction, as house maids.

You are blaming Christianity for something that went on long before Christ. Christ's "love your neighbour as yourself" is the very antithesis of slavery. Under the Ancestors they even had slaves for human sacrifice. Read about it. It is all true.

The Chiefs sold those people to America. It was usual business to them in West Africa. We may have influenced it back then, but it was common practice. Yeah, blame Jesus for it if you like, but you are well off the "beaten" track.

It is not Christianity gone wrong. It is everything gone wrong. Muslims stone women in pits for adultery there.

I told you I am a long time friend to many Africans. It is you calling them savages not me. I don't call them that. I see it as an abused land abusing because it has been abused.

I have to defend my friend, a young woman who came to me after trying to kill herself because of what happened to her.

en.wikipedia.org...


The continent of Africa is one of the regions most rife with contemporary slavery. Slavery in Africa has a long history, within Africa since before historical records, but intensifying with the Arab slave trade and again with the trans-Atlantic slave trade;


qz.com...


Africa is again the world’s epicenter of modern-day slavery



Africa just recorded the highest rate of modern-day enslavement in the world. Armed conflict, state-sponsored forced labor, and forced marriages were the main causes behind the estimated 9.2 million Africans who live in servitude without the choice to do so, according to the 2018 Global Slavery Index. And despite these practices being widespread, slavery has remained a largely invisible issue, in part, because it disproportionately affects the most marginalized members of society, such as minorities, women, and children.


So much for the Ancestors! We all got Ancestors. Mine in Britain were human sacrificing violent cultures. I am glad to be well shut of their darkness.


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posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 08:18 AM
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a reply to: Kakamega

Sorry it wasn't intended to offend any one, went off a bit there true.

Yet they had witches before we came there, it was an integral part of their culture. Not so now, how come it is a reason to burn a woman? where do you think they did get the inspiration for that? Hell of an good example we are giving to them.

Actually it was an integral part of every culture before Christianity swept the world of that very important component...

But yeah the savior is never questioned...
just blame blame blame, some self reflections and admitting to have #ed up the peoples minds over the last 2000 year what a blasphemous thought...

Sorry mate most of the mess we see right now started 2000 years ago... Now it was either Christianity or something posing as Christianity but does it makes any difference right now?

Questioning one offend everyone that identifies with it all though, you cant really justify the thousands of people that burned on the stacks either.

Sorry I'm to emotional, just carry on

Sincerely NC



posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 08:21 AM
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It’s racist for white people to call this out. Why’s it racist: money-power-votes.

It’s not about helping people, it’s about money-power-votes

Poor Africans can not donate to the democrat party. Not to mention it’s really hard but not impossible for poor blacks in Africa to vote democrat....so why spend recourses to help.

Republics don’t care because of fix your own house before you fix others.



posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 08:38 AM
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originally posted by: NoConspiracy
a reply to: Kakamega

Sorry it wasn't intended to offend any one, went off a bit there true.

Yet they had witches before we came there, it was an integral part of their culture. Not so now, how come it is a reason to burn a woman? where do you think they did get the inspiration for that? Hell of an good example we are giving to them.

Actually it was an integral part of every culture before Christianity swept the world of that very important component...

But yeah the savior is never questioned...
just blame blame blame, some self reflections and admitting to have #ed up the peoples minds over the last 2000 year what a blasphemous thought...

Sorry mate most of the mess we see right now started 2000 years ago... Now it was either Christianity or something posing as Christianity but does it makes any difference right now?

Questioning one offend everyone that identifies with it all though, you cant really justify the thousands of people that burned on the stacks either.

Sorry I'm to emotional, just carry on

Sincerely NC


No it did not just start two thousand years ago. That is illusion. Look at Alexander. He went out slaughtering, raping and conquering, same with Egyptians, same with Romans. They sacrificed their first born in the fire to their idols for thousands and thousands of years, enslaved people in Egypt, in the Amazon, every where. There never have been any good old days. Please research this and you will know I am telling you the truth.

www.knowablemagazine.org...


n the Mesopotamian Epic of Gilgamesh, the demigod and his comrade Enkidu rip out the heart of the Bull of Heaven as a gift to the sun god Shamash. This bloody act is far from the only time sacrifice makes an appearance in the world’s most ancient stories, and in some tales such rituals claim human lives, or almost. In Greek myth, King Agamemnon decides to sacrifice his daughter Iphigenia to Artemis as payment for letting the Greek fleet sail to Troy. In the book of Genesis, Abraham nearly sacrifices his son Isaac to God, with an angel staying Abraham’s hand only at the last minute.


www.history.com...


Human Sacrifice: Why the Aztecs Practiced This Gory Ritual In addition to slicing out the hearts of victims and spilling their blood on temple altars, the Aztecs likely also practiced a form of ritual cannibalism.


Most importantly to our argument,

face2faceafrica.com...


Why the Horrible Tradition of Human Sacrifice in Africa Needs To Stop



he culture of human sacrifice is said to be rampant in many African countries, including Nigeria, Zambia, Malawi, Tanzania, Uganda, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Swaziland, South Africa, and several others. These practices involve the hunting down, mutilation, and murder of the most vulnerable members of the society, particularly children, people with albinism (a genetic skin disorder), and the handicapped. Unfortunately, most of these cases go unreported largely due to the secret nature of the ritual sacrifices and naivety of the people involved.


humanists.international...


Leo Igwe, IHEU’s representative for West and Southern Africa, is working to combat widespread human rights abuses caused by belief in sorcery and superstition. On November 11, 2010, he raised the issue of ritual killing and human sacrifice at the African Commission on Human and People’s Rights, with the following statement.



Madam Chairperson, The practice of ritual killing(1) and human sacrifice(2) continues to take place in several African countries in contravention of the African Charter on Human and People’s Rights and other human rights instruments. In this 21st century, human beings are still being hunted down, mutilated, murdered or sacrificed for ritual purposes across the region. Several cases of kidnapping and disappearance of persons(3) are traced to the vicious schemes and activities of ritualists. In most cases, those targeted for ritual sacrifice are vulnerable members of the population — the poor, women, children(4), the aged and people with disabilities.(5)


Did Jesus start that or even the missionaries? Of course not. That is Ancestor Worship. Even online I have had Vooddo priests offering to do blood spells for me for huge amounts of money. Lol, that did not come from "Love Thy Neighbour" Jesus did it?


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posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
It’s racist for white people to call this out. Why’s it racist: money-power-votes.

It’s not about helping people, it’s about money-power-votes

Poor Africans can not donate to the democrat party. Not to mention it’s really hard but not impossible for poor blacks in Africa to vote democrat....so why spend recourses to help.

Republics don’t care because of fix your own house before you fix others.


No, any decent human will call this out. The darkness must come to the light. If my African friends call to me for help I will help them. All of us come from Africa. Science has proved that beyond doubt. There are no racial barriers in my mind. I care about Africans as I care about Europeans, no difference. I am closer to Africans now than Europeans. They are more my family than Europeans. Also, I am not the "w" word. I am brown and Middle Eastern in my genes.

You are making borders and barriers. You are making races in your mind. I do not. They are my people too.

I will call out all murder and violence wherever it happens. This must be out in the open. It can no longer remain hidden, festering away and all those women and children being victims like this.

The human race must stop this happening. We have for the first time tools to do that, digital tools that can help us to communicate world wide. Who on earth wants to keep this hidden and allow it to keep going on? Yes, too, right, I will interfere when a woman comes to me broken asking for my help.






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posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: Kakamega
you are right it was and is alwaya the same.

but we have to agree then that Christianity isn't any better. Because, burning people on the stacks, waging wars all over the world in their name, and recently child molesters, not any better from my point of view.

So no superior god no superior morals, just empty words... By each and all of them, including Christianity.

who gives any one the right to judge any other cultures rituals in the light of Christianitys history?

You can fool some people some time but....

Sincerely NC



posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 09:10 AM
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originally posted by: Kakamega
Look at Alexander. He went out slaughtering, raping and conquering...


He died in a palace of fever or drinking depending on the account.


...same with Egyptians, same with Romans. They sacrificed their first born in the fire to their idols for thousands and thousands of years...


You just make that up?



posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 09:10 AM
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I have discovered: NO ONE CARES

Especially: The people who decry slavery and blame slavery and racism for every problem in the world and constantly cry racism. They don't care because the people affected held slaves long into BCE years (thousands of years before Christ). We know this from Egyptian records. The people affected still hold slaves today and in some parts of Africa it is still legal. If the people who love to cry racism at the drop of a hat acknowledged the truth, they would have to stop blaming white people, which they are incapable of doing.

So instead:
they stick their heads in the sand and pretend that all of history and current slavery doesn't exist.
because it messes with their narrative of hate for white people

This is a form of racism that people in the western world won't acknowledge. Instead they want to blame themselves and pretend it is all their fault so they can self-flaggluate and label people with tags of racism.

This prevents seeing the world as it is.

In Africa slavery has pretty much existed throughout all time, black on black.

That does not make it less evil, ignore racial issues if you are able to do that, which many are incapable of.

If you say slavery is evil, then it is evil regardless of who does it and what race they are, it must be acknowledged and stopped.

Same with abuse of women: This goes hand in hand with the subtle acceptance of slavery by the rest of the world because it destroy's their "white people are the problem" narrative.

Slavery and abuse of women is evil, regardless of a persons race, which has nothing to do with actual slavery or abuse of women.

Abuse of women is accepted and legal in many Islamic countries and countries that are predominately Islamic, because women are considered by the religion to be worth 1/2 of what a man is worth. Making women sub-human in that 14th century culture.

I hear lots of feminists say, it is their culture, we must respect their culture, that women are worth 1/2 of a man, and can be beaten or killed at will and their education and freedom of movement limited. Really?

That is an awful rationalization for not caring about abuse of women. It is racist of them to cry "culture" to excuse abuse of women. It is evil to say, just because the women accept the abuse (because they are forced to by the Islamic males) - they enjoy it, they want it - so it is ok to abuse them, they asked for it.

Just listen to their rationalization.

They people of the West, especially the liberals and progressives, are so into themselves and their own little world that any narrative that doesn't blame the west is to be thrown out and ignored.

I am ashamed of the way people in European countries and the US, etc. have purposely ignored this issue. I have tried over and over and get the same answers.

You are racist for pointing out that slavery has been black on black for thousands upon thousands of years longer than white on black - and in return ignore it is even happening and don't want to know it is happening still in Africa.

You are an Islamphobe for pointing out that abuse of women is wrong, even if it is cultural, even if it is ingrained in a religion that refuses to move into the 21st. century.

If you think I personally am an Islamophobe, let me tell you about an Islamic sect I admire. Hafizi Ismaili Islamic sect, which is highly persecuted and its members killed by the major Islamic sects when they have the chance. Their leader decries abuse of women, decries systemic sexism, decries terrorism, and demands that people who love Allah move into the 21st century and leave the 14th century behind. Just as most Christian religions have decried sexism and moved on into a more enlightened mode.

Unfortunately, getting especially liberals and progressives to actually care about what is happening in Africa is going to be and has been extremely difficult because it destroys their long held belief system of hate and blame for the West. Also, their refusal to acknowledge that the West is not responsible for all the ills of the entire world. That their are issues outside the "West" that are also evil, that also need addressing.

It is far to difficult for them to change their paradigm right now. Which is why they put their heads in the sand and ignore the issue entirely.

I have spent a lot of effort trying to get the truth out and it has been hopeless so far, they just won't listen because it doesn't fit the liberal/progressive narrative.



posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 09:17 AM
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originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Kakamega
Look at Alexander. He went out slaughtering, raping and conquering...


He died in a palace of fever or drinking depending on the account.


...same with Egyptians, same with Romans. They sacrificed their first born in the fire to their idols for thousands and thousands of years...


You just make that up?


No. I just gave you all the links. Don't you know about the Priests of Nemi? I thought you Masons are supposed to know about history???

en.wikipedia.org...


The tale of the rex Nemorensis appears in a number of ancient sources. Ovid gives a poetic account of the priesthood of Nemi in his Fasti, Book 3, 271 (on the month of March), noting that the lake of Nemi was "sacred to antique religion", and that the priest who dwelt there "holds his reign by strong hands and fleet feet, and dies according to the example he set himself."[1] The Latin name of the priesthood is given by Suetonius: "He [Caligula] caused the rex Nemorensis, who had held his priesthood for many years, to be supplanted by a stronger adversary."[2] That same passage indicates that by the time of the early Principate, the custom of succession in the office by combat had become subject to outside control. The Greek geographer Strabo also mentions the institution: "and in fact a barbaric, and Scythian, element predominates in the sacred usages, for the people set up as priest merely a run-away slave who has slain with his own hand the man previously consecrated to that office; accordingly the priest is always armed with a sword, looking around for the attacks, and ready to defend himself."[3]


How many Christians did Nero sacrifice???? How many captured and slaves were fed to the lions by the Babylonians and Romans?

en.wikipedia.org...


Ancient Egyptian retainer sacrifice is a type of human sacrifice in which pharaohs and occasionally other high court nobility would have servants killed after the pharaohs' deaths to continue to serve them in the afterlife. In Egypt, retainer sacrifice only existed during the First Dynasty, from about 3100 BC to 2900 BC, slowly dwindling, and eventually dying out.


www.theguardian.com...


Skeletal remains 'confirm ancient Greeks engaged in human sacrifice' This article is more than 3 years old Bones found on Mount Lykaion – where animal offerings to Zeus were also made – but some are urging caution over how to interpret the discovery



The discovery of a 3,000-year-old skeleton in Greece has excited archeologists, who believe that the finding may confirm one of the darkest legends of antiquity. Greece’s culture ministry announced on Wednesday that a Greek-American team of researchers had discovered the skeleton of a teenager on the side of Mount Lykaion – known to be the site of animal sacrifices to Zeus. “Much later, sources talk about human sacrifices taking place on Lykaion,” Anna Karapanagiotou, the head of the local archeological service, told a local municipal radio. “All this will be studied.” Mount Lykaion was associated with human sacrifice by many ancient writers, including Plato, and while it may be too early to speculate on how the teenager died, the location adds a strong connection. “It nearly seems to good to be true,” said Dr Jan N Bremmer, professor emeritus of religious studies at the University of Groningen, Netherlands, and an editor of The Strange World of Human Sacrifice.



I have thousands of reputable links. I told you I have studied us since the very beginning very intently.

I can give you examples from just about every culture through the ages of human sacrifice and slavery.


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posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: NoConspiracy
a reply to: Kakamega
you are right it was and is alwaya the same.

but we have to agree then that Christianity isn't any better. Because, burning people on the stacks, waging wars all over the world in their name, and recently child molesters, not any better from my point of view.

So no superior god no superior morals, just empty words... By each and all of them, including Christianity.

who gives any one the right to judge any other cultures rituals in the light of Christianitys history?

You can fool some people some time but....

Sincerely NC


You seem fixated on blaming Christianity for the ills of the world. From everything that's been said so far in this thread, one thing is clear. Humans have been, and continue to be, destructive and violent. I don't know why you single out Christians. Could it be that you have a bit of inherent hate in you too? Welcome to the human race brother.



posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 09:21 AM
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Yes, I share your kind of reasoning. You make total sense to me. These are very wise words with which I wholeheartedly agree and I thank you for all the trouble you went to expresing this.





posted on Mar, 28 2020 @ 09:22 AM
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It is not Christianity gone wrong. It is everything gone wrong. Muslims stone women in pits for adultery there.


Yea.. when morals, education, and civility are low; most religions can be used as an excuse for violence.

It's too bad Africa has so many problems. It does seem like a beautiful continent.

It would be nice if the virus only wiped out the terrible people in life. And we could start fresh with a humanity who has empathy and morals.



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