Researchers Conclude COVID-19 Has A Natural Origin And Is Not Manmade

On March 17, researchers wrote in the journal Nature Medicine, that “our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 (Covid-19) is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.”

The research article, "The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2" can be read in its entirety HERE.

Researchers found that the “spike proteins,” which are used by the Covid-19 virus to attach to a host’s cell, “is most likely the result of natural selection on a human,” and that there is “strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is not the product of purposeful manipulation.”

This study mentions that SARS-CoV-2 is one of seven coronaviruses that infect humans. It, along with two others, can cause severe disease and the remaining four “are associated with mild symptoms.”

Genomic features of SARS-CoV-2 shows that it’s closely linked to other MERS-like coronaviruses that are found in bats, which can infect human cells. The researchers state that: “Given the similarity of SARS-CoV-2 to bat SARS-CoV-like coronaviruses, it is likely that bats serve as resevoir hosts for its progenitor.”

It was also stated in this research article that Malayan pangolins (a scaly anteater mammal), that were illegally imported into China, “contain coronaviruses similar to SARS-CoV-2.” Researchers concluded that the spike protein used by SARS-CoV-2 to bind to human cells “is the result of natural selection.”

“The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein was so effective at binding the human cells, in fact, that the scientists concluded it was the result of natural selection and not the product of genetic engineering.”
www.scripps.edu...

Once this novel virus infected a human, it adapted because of “undetected human-to-human transmission."

“It is possible that a progenitor of SARS-CoV-2 jumped into humans, acquiring the genomic features described above through adaptation during undetected human-to-human transmission. Once acquired, these adaptations would enable the pandemic to take off and produce a sufficiently large cluster of cases to trigger the surveillance system that detected it.”

“This evidence for natural evolution was supported by data on SARS-CoV-2’s backbone – its overall molecular structure. If someone were seeking to engineer a new coronavirus as a pathogen, they would have constructed it from the backbone of a virus known to cause illness. But the scientists found that the SARS-CoV-2 backbone differed substantially from those of already known coronaviruses and mostly resembled related viruses found in bats and pangolins.”
www.scripps.edu...

A great many of the references at the bottom of that article are Chinese. Just food for thought.

People wonder why they went to great lengths to "prove" this isn't a "manufactured" weapon that's been watered down.

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a reply to: shawmanfromny

Why were we told in January that it had components of HIV in it?

We were told it was bioengineered with HIV components.

Someone doesn't want to take responsibility for murdering people with their pet lab virus.

originally posted by: Creep Thumper
a reply to: shawmanfromny

Why were we told in January that it had components of HIV in it?

We were told it was bioengineered with HIV components.

Someone doesn't want to take responsibility for murdering people with their pet lab virus.

Shhhhhh. Why don't you quiet down with your racism and let those initial reports slink in obscurity. Maybe one day it'll return in that thread of disappearing news.

originally posted by: xuenchen
People wonder why they went to great lengths to "prove" this isn't a "manufactured" weapon that's been watered down.

😷 🥶

Perhaps because basement-dwelling folks in their underpants have gone to great lengths to "prove" that it IS a "manufactured" weapon?

Like for like, innit?

a reply to: shawmanfromny

Just because the virus doesn't have lab indicators, does not mean it wasn't being experimented with and tampered with in a lab!

We KNOW for a fact, that the Wuhan lab was experimenting with over 600 bats that carried the virus.

We have seen reports from within China itself, that a scientist in that lab was exposed to the blood and urine of those bats.

Those same reports suggest that the scientist that was exposed, did nothing more than self-quarantine.

So it doesn't matter whether they further engineered the virus in the lab or not... what matters is the GROSS NEGLIGENCE on the part of the lab, the scientist, and the Chinese government and the silencing of medical professionals that tried to sound the alarm on it when there was still time to prevent a pandemic.

Nothing anyone says is going to excuse that. (I'm not suggesting you are shawnofmany)

Why hasn't this virus emerged anywhere else?

~Namaste

NBC said 2 weeks ago that somebody in China did something with a monkey...and became human carrier #1. I think HIV started that way too.

This is the really controversial thread .
I believe it : natural .
Quality op

Nope, this Chinese Flu as SARS, MERS & others came from China

From the Scripps link, which is one of the original research article.

"The analysis of public genome sequence data from SARS-CoV-2 and related viruses found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered."

That article quotes in the first paragraph that they have found no evidence, not that it did not happen.

I have seen this twisted in articles all over, stating that it is not manmade, but in essence they are twisting the evidence to say something different. Twisting evidence by altering the interpretation is done a lot in science, I wrote a thread about this on here, if you read it, it states that half of the evidence out there is misinterpretted and you have to look at the original research and look at the parameters.

Just like the coronavirus is evolving, so are the articles people write, People misinterpret what is being said all the time, even professionals with evidence related to their field.

I have read a real lot of research on multiple things and see that there is a lot of opinion being spread as fact. I also find that some of the opinions are actually more correct than the original article too, because of the parameters set in the research and the intent the research was started for.

I will believe there is no evidence at this time that this virus was manmade, but that only means they have found no evidence, that is all it is. The only way that this would be even pertinent is if someone wanted to sue the Chinese government, that should not even be considered. If this virus did escape the lab, I feel it was an accident or negligence, that happens everywhere in the world, it is usually covered up.

originally posted by: shawmanfromny
On March 17, researchers wrote in the journal Nature Medicine, that “our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 (Covid-19) is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.”

The research article, "The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2" can be read in its entirety HERE.

Researchers found that the “spike proteins,” which are used by the Covid-19 virus to attach to a host’s cell, “is most likely the result of natural selection on a human,” and that there is “strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is not the product of purposeful manipulation.”

This study mentions that SARS-CoV-2 is one of seven coronaviruses that infect humans. It, along with two others, can cause severe disease and the remaining four “are associated with mild symptoms.”

Genomic features of SARS-CoV-2 shows that it’s closely linked to other MERS-like coronaviruses that are found in bats, which can infect human cells. The researchers state that: “Given the similarity of SARS-CoV-2 to bat SARS-CoV-like coronaviruses, it is likely that bats serve as resevoir hosts for its progenitor.”

It was also stated in this research article that Malayan pangolins (a scaly anteater mammal), that were illegally imported into China, “contain coronaviruses similar to SARS-CoV-2.” Researchers concluded that the spike protein used by SARS-CoV-2 to bind to human cells “is the result of natural selection.”

“The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein was so effective at binding the human cells, in fact, that the scientists concluded it was the result of natural selection and not the product of genetic engineering.”
www.scripps.edu...

Once this novel virus infected a human, it adapted because of “undetected human-to-human transmission."

“It is possible that a progenitor of SARS-CoV-2 jumped into humans, acquiring the genomic features described above through adaptation during undetected human-to-human transmission. Once acquired, these adaptations would enable the pandemic to take off and produce a sufficiently large cluster of cases to trigger the surveillance system that detected it.”

“This evidence for natural evolution was supported by data on SARS-CoV-2’s backbone – its overall molecular structure. If someone were seeking to engineer a new coronavirus as a pathogen, they would have constructed it from the backbone of a virus known to cause illness. But the scientists found that the SARS-CoV-2 backbone differed substantially from those of already known coronaviruses and mostly resembled related viruses found in bats and pangolins.”
www.scripps.edu...

I Call BS. So this virus naturally mutated or migrated from being a cold virus to being an effective invisible highly contagious and enhanced cocktail tool set virus that's quite effective on humans either killing them or damaging their lungs. Not buying this! Hope I am wrong, but if I am, then the future might not be so rosy for us. - The Super Bug!
Is the above what would happen anyway if it was not man-made.

originally posted by: RP2SticksOfDynamite

originally posted by: shawmanfromny
On March 17, researchers wrote in the journal Nature Medicine, that “our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 (Covid-19) is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.”

The research article, "The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2" can be read in its entirety HERE.

Researchers found that the “spike proteins,” which are used by the Covid-19 virus to attach to a host’s cell, “is most likely the result of natural selection on a human,” and that there is “strong evidence that SARS-CoV-2 is not the product of purposeful manipulation.”

This study mentions that SARS-CoV-2 is one of seven coronaviruses that infect humans. It, along with two others, can cause severe disease and the remaining four “are associated with mild symptoms.”

Genomic features of SARS-CoV-2 shows that it’s closely linked to other MERS-like coronaviruses that are found in bats, which can infect human cells. The researchers state that: “Given the similarity of SARS-CoV-2 to bat SARS-CoV-like coronaviruses, it is likely that bats serve as resevoir hosts for its progenitor.”

It was also stated in this research article that Malayan pangolins (a scaly anteater mammal), that were illegally imported into China, “contain coronaviruses similar to SARS-CoV-2.” Researchers concluded that the spike protein used by SARS-CoV-2 to bind to human cells “is the result of natural selection.”

“The SARS-CoV-2 spike protein was so effective at binding the human cells, in fact, that the scientists concluded it was the result of natural selection and not the product of genetic engineering.”
www.scripps.edu...

Once this novel virus infected a human, it adapted because of “undetected human-to-human transmission."

“It is possible that a progenitor of SARS-CoV-2 jumped into humans, acquiring the genomic features described above through adaptation during undetected human-to-human transmission. Once acquired, these adaptations would enable the pandemic to take off and produce a sufficiently large cluster of cases to trigger the surveillance system that detected it.”

“This evidence for natural evolution was supported by data on SARS-CoV-2’s backbone – its overall molecular structure. If someone were seeking to engineer a new coronavirus as a pathogen, they would have constructed it from the backbone of a virus known to cause illness. But the scientists found that the SARS-CoV-2 backbone differed substantially from those of already known coronaviruses and mostly resembled related viruses found in bats and pangolins.”
www.scripps.edu...

To Be expected I guess.

edit on 24-3-2020 by RP2SticksOfDynamite because: (no reason given)

a reply to: shawmanfromny

Nice to see the white washing has started. Convenient that where this started there just happened to be a bio-lab. Doubt very many people are going to believe the it happened in nature story.

originally posted by: carewemust
I think HIV started that way too.

You are aware, aren't you, that HIV does not cause AIDS, right?

And don't let the 'retraction' claim fool you... it was retracted to protect the multi-billion dollar cash cow called 'HIV causes AIDS'.

Yeah, like China would admit to it or any of the other respected and trusted scientists would want the general populous to believe some of their insane compatriots were responsible for this.

They play with far worse things in their labs - far worse.

They are literally playing in Pandora’s box - some good might come out of that and some bad. Whether this particular virus has been altered or engineered is pretty redundant now - except China keep trying to blame the USA for it. So they must think it’s a bio weapon, or know it is and want to deflect and muddy the waters.

a reply to: ARM1968

I don't think some of you straight off cynical naysayers have any real clue what it takes to make a bioweapon or even what types there are.
This is a pandemic virus , it's relation to bioweapons is only in it's zoonotic origin . You can't "weaponize " a virus unless you intended to spread it .

originally posted by: ARM1968
Yeah, like China would admit to it or any of the other respected and trusted scientists would want the general populous to believe some of their insane compatriots were responsible for this.

They play with far worse things in their labs - far worse.

They are literally playing in Pandora’s box - some good might come out of that and some bad. Whether this particular virus has been altered or engineered is pretty redundant now - except China keep trying to blame the USA for it. So they must think it’s a bio weapon, or know it is and want to deflect and muddy the waters.

In a nutshell!

double

a reply to: RP2SticksOfDynamite

Bollocks . it's a novel coronavirus , as far as the studies go , from natural evolution. It's a credible conclusion .

"Far worse things in their labs ... far worse ."

Like what ? If it was discovered in laboratory experiment , it would have been carefully contained.
What's more likely is an amateur biocriminal act creating random zoonoses , gone (wrong) turned up a novel pandemic. That it was given a chance along with other not as infectious zoonoses to infect some victims and it took it. That , or a badly maintained animal stall market turned up a nasty surprise. That said it would have taken off wherever live animals were gathered together with humans . China did a (reasonable) job of identifying and stopping it killing and infecting a lot of people.