Coronavirus: Preventing/Fighting Pneumonia with Conventional, Nutritional and Natural Remedies

a reply to: tanstaafl

...I haven't cared what their recommendations are for decades they are so wrong.

Me too. I've begun to look up the maximum or upper tolerance level as determined by clinical studies, because the RDA's are basically the minimal needed to stave off deficiency. So I know that the RDA for Vitamin C is just enough to prevent scurvy, but it's not necessarily the optimal amount the body needs.

Something else important to add: The body can only absorb and process so much Vitamin C at a time, and the body sheds excess Vitamin C within a few hours. So it is recommended -- especially when taking higher doses -- that the total dose is divided into three or four doses to be taken throughout the day/evening.

I take about 6000mg of vitamin C a day. Right now I’m bumping it up just in case. So you can take more than the 2000 mg mentioned. It just takes a few days for your stomach to get used to it.

originally posted by: Secretrooster
I take about 6000mg of vitamin C a day. Right now I’m bumping it up just in case. So you can take more than the 2000 mg mentioned. It just takes a few days for your stomach to get used to it.

I once tried a regimen with 6,000mgs of liposomal Vitamin C in four doses over the day. I could go three days with no problem, and on the fourth morning, the first dose came right back up! I didn't want to waste the C, so I would wait a few days and then start again, and the same thing happened. After the third time, I had completed my purpose for the higher dose, and I backed off to 2,000 mgs per day, which I handle just fine. And when my husband came home sick, I doubled it to 4,000 mgs per day. And I handled that just fine. But my tummy sure didn't like that 6,000 mgs per day!

a reply to: Boadicea

I sure do remember being wrapped in an old cotton diaper with vicks on my chest!!!!

But when I looked it up, planning to buy some,it says the ingredients are cough suppressants.
So??? I thought that was to be avoided?

BTW, thanks for this thread

a reply to: Boadicea

The RDA versus the optimum dose is always tricky.

I've been using a nutritional healing book as my bible for good health, even before I use the internet.
It is often used as a reference tool at health food stores around here.

There is a chapter or three or so in the front about vitamins, minerals and supplements. The chapter in vitamins has a list for optimum daily dosing.

Prescription for Nutritional Healing, Fifth Edition: A Practical A-to-Z Reference, by Balch, CNC

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Eucalyptus is a fairly common tree, you can boil the leaves and breathe in the steam, its really helpful to open air ways works like vicks. Dont put it directly on your skin until you research it, some things will cause rash or burn. If you check online you might find something local to your area that can help. I dont know how accessible any supplies to buy will be.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: tanstaafl
Something else important to add: The body can only absorb and process so much Vitamin C at a time, and the body sheds excess Vitamin C within a few hours. So it is recommended -- especially when taking higher doses -- that the total dose is divided into three or four doses to be taken throughout the day/evening.

Exactly why I take 4 or 5 (sometimes 6) doses throughout the day...

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: Boadicea

I sure do remember being wrapped in an old cotton diaper with vicks on my chest!!!!

Oh my... I forgot those soft warm comfy cotton diapers!!!

But when I looked it up, planning to buy some,it says the ingredients are cough suppressants.
So??? I thought that was to be avoided?

Hmmmm... thank you for noting this. That's important to know. It would probably be wise for people to observe to what extent their cough is just calmed or actually suppressed, with Vicks or any of these measures. It also occurs to me that everyone responds differently to medications, so it will vary by individual.

For what it's worth, and I don't have a quote handy, but one of the links I read distinguished between cough relievers (soothers) and cough suppressants as the latter actually inhibiting or deactivating the cough reflex (especially pharmaceutical barbituates), the former soothing the irritation which merely soothes and calms the cough.

BTW, thanks for this thread

You're welcome -- thanks for appreciating it!

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: Boadicea
I've been using a nutritional healing book as my bible for good health, even before I use the internet.
It is often used as a reference tool at health food stores around here.

Excellent - and don't forget the all important - which type/form is better utilized, as well as which brand.

Personally, I started actively avoiding anything made in China a long time ago due to the likelihood it is either contaminated, has no active ingredients (label doesn't match whats in it), or both. But now, it is my religion.

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: Boadicea

Prescription for Nutritional Healing, Fifth Edition: A Practical A-to-Z Reference, by Balch, CNC

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!! This looks awesome -- even better than my Food Bible.

And as much as I appreciate the internet and so much information at the tip of my fingers, it will never replace a book you can hold in your hands and read (and re-read) at your leisure...

a reply to: Boadicea

Oh, I agree.
IN cases like this, a book is so much better than a screen.
My copy is full of notes. LOL

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: DontTreadOnMe
a reply to: Boadicea
I've been using a nutritional healing book as my bible for good health, even before I use the internet.
It is often used as a reference tool at health food stores around here.

Excellent - and don't forget the all important - which type/form is better utilized, as well as which brand.

Yes, which form is best utilized is most important.
I don's always go with their brand recommendation, sometimes economics and availability makes me get a less expensive but still quality brand.

Some of the supplements out there....

The only way to fight this is to have your immune system primed to fight.I had Swineflu H1n1 last June (first time)and this Covid virus sounds like what I had.God help everyone.People think being healthy and not catching anything is a sign of health.The reality is your immune system has had no practise and no memory.Having young kids pass their viruses to you so they do serve a purpose.

originally posted by: KarmaTurnaround
The only way to fight this...

No, not the only way. I would never discount the value and importance of a healthy immune system, but many people with and without a healthy immune system will contract this, and will need to treat their symptoms. And none of those people need to hear that they're already doomed because they don't have a healthy immune system. We have options. They have options. Those are the people who need the most information about how to take care of themselves.

Please don't unnecessarily discourage, or worse frighten people, at an already terrifying time. People need practical advice and help... not someone's fear mongering and doom porn.

a reply to: Boadicea

Awesome post Boadicea - thank you.

a reply to: hiddeninsite

You're welcome. And thank you.

I hope you never need to know though.

a reply to: misskat1

Thanks for posting! I came on ATS to see if anyone had brought up Thieves Oil, seems to me if it worked on the Bubonic Plague that a few drops on any face mask or bandanna would be an effective layer of protection. Has anyone else done this?

a reply to: underpass61

It's worth posting again (from MissKat's link):

Thieves Oil Blend
Traditional Thieves Oil is a blend of 5 essential oils:

• Clove -- warming, soothing, comforting
  
• Lemon -- refreshing, cheerful, uplifting
  
• Cinnamon -- warming, comforting, energizing
  
• Eucalyptus -- revitalizing, invigorating, clarifying
  
• Rosemary -- purifying, uplifting

Add a little honey and it would probably make a yummy spiced tea... interesting at the very least.

I thought someone had done a clinical review of the ingredients for anti-microbial properties, but I cannot find anything right now. I

I did, however, find this clinical study testing Cinnamon, Eucalyptus, Rosemary and Oregano in different combos, which confirms their healing properties alone and in combination: Antibacterial, antifungal, and antiviral effects of three essential oil blends

This study found that cloves and rosemary each had anti-bacterial properties, and worked even better together: Antimicrobial activity of clove and rosemary essential oils alone and in combination

This study looked at some old medieval medical recipes for healing properties and effectiveness: Data Mining a Medieval Medical Text Reveals Patterns in Ingredient Choice That Reflect Biological Activity against Infectious Agents

And another one: A 1,000-Year-Old Antimicrobial Remedy with Antistaphylococcal Activity

a reply to: Boadicea


Did you mean that by adding honey one should ingest thieves oil ? Because at least Eucalyptus essential oil is not to be ingested, and it`s starting to be gray area with safety if start ingest generally essential oils..

Is Ingesting Essential Oils Safe — Or Dangerous?

But i think thieves oil look`s quite powerfull mix, for inhaling it to lungs it might really help to kill pathogens , i never tryed thought.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: Boadicea


Did you mean that by adding honey one should ingest thieves oil ? Because at least Eucalyptus essential oil is not to be ingested, and it`s starting to be gray area with safety if start ingest generally essential oils..

Is Ingesting Essential Oils Safe — Or Dangerous?

But i think thieves oil look`s quite powerfull mix, for inhaling it to lungs it might really help to kill pathogens , i never tryed thought.

You're right! Thank you for the correction.

And a big LOL at myself, because as I was thinking about a tea, I was actually thinking the dried spices and not the essential oils. But at least eucalyptus can be toxic. The dried cinnamon, cloves and lemon would be wonderful in teas though.

I would think a few drops of the mixture could be added to the (external) cup on a vaporizer though.