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Provincial officials study emergency flu plan
Elected officials and emergency personnel will hear details of Manitoba's plan to deal with such a health disaster for the first time this week at a provincial disaster-management conference.
Among the plan's most dramatic steps: a proposal to conscript retired or part-time medical personnel, because a flu outbreak would likely cause hundreds of health professionals to get sick themselves.
The plan also has provisions to turn schools and malls into temporary hospitals, and spells out who would get flu vaccine first.
September, 2004: Re: Bird flu
"It seems this virus (H5N1 bird flu) is quite versatile - it appears in pigs, cats and other animals, so it can appear in places that were never thought about before." Omi said. "This virus is very infectious," he added. (Shigeru Omi, WHO regional director for the Western Pacific)
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Fearful expert tells of bird flu in pigs
We report the first case of avian influenza in a patient with fever and diarrhea but no respiratory symptoms. Avian influenza should be included in the differential diagnosis for patients with predominantly gastrointestinal symptoms, particularly if they have a history of exposure to poultry.
Atypical avian influenza (H5N1). Emerg Infect Dis. 2004 Jul;10(7):1321-4. Apisarnthanarak A, Kitphati R, Thongphubeth K, Patoomanunt P, Anthanont P, Auwanit W, Thawatsupha P, Chittaganpitch M, Saeng-Aroon S, Waicharoen S, Apisarnthanarak P, Storch GA, Mundy LM, Fraser VJ. Thammasart University Hospital, Klong Luang, Pratumthani, Thailand. PMID: 15324560
Relatives of avian flu patients have asymptomatic cases
Mar 9, 2005 (CIDRAP News) – Two relatives of avian influenza patients in northern Vietnam have tested positive for the virus without being sick, according to reports from Vietnam today.
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researchers have recently described several instances of person-to-person transmission.
Now there is evidence that in rare cases it can spread from person to person.
Feather pillows may carry Asian bird flu
Poultry feathers imported from China to make products such as pillows could carry the avian flu virus, says a British microbiologist who is urging the British Government to consider banning them.
Military intelligence warns that avian flu could be used as weapon: report
The military's intelligence arm has warned the federal government that avian influenza could be used as a weapon of bioterrorism, a heavily censored report suggests.
It also reveals that military planners believe a naturally occurring flu pandemic may be imminent. The report, entitled Recent Human Outbreaks of Avian Influenza and Potential Biological Warfare Implications, was obtained under the Access to Information Act by The Canadian Press.
The report outlines in broad terms the methods that could be used to develop a manmade strain of influenza capable of triggering a human flu pandemic. ...It notes a method called "passaging," while not entirely predictable, could be a "potentially highly effective" way to push a virus to develop virulence. ..."Such forced antigenic shifts could be attempted in a biological weapons program," says the 15-page report, dated Dec. 8, 2004.
Catastrophic bird flu outbreak possibility poses greater risk than terrorists
As an outbreak of bird flu in Asia has begun to spread among humans, British health officials say a catastrophic worldwide epidemic is likely on the horizon. The government is already reportedly planning to cancel large public events if the flu hits the nation in epidemic proportions. Officials say a potential flu epidemic is more of a public danger than any potential threat by terrorists.
Originally posted by 00PS
I think we all know by now that Terrorists could use anything as a weapon. This thread is just another form of the Mass Media trying to instill fear in people.
What's the point soficrow? Oh, birdflu can be used by terrorists....so?
Originally posted by soficrow
You need to read the articles before you comment OOPS. There is a fund of good info here, all of which you obviously missed. FYI - This article makes the same point you just did, except with effort, attention and research.
Originally posted by soficrow
"Terrorist" warnings are being released to cover up government mismanagement, some theorists observe. With increasing regularity, military and other officials are suggesting that bird flu might be a purposefully designed biological weapon. Here is a recent military "report" that was "leaked" to the press.
It also reveals that military planners believe a naturally occurring flu pandemic may be imminent. The report, entitled Recent Human Outbreaks of Avian Influenza and Potential Biological Warfare Implications, was obtained under the Access to Information Act by The Canadian Press.
health officials say a catastrophic worldwide epidemic is likely on the horizon. The government is already reportedly planning to cancel large public events if the flu hits the nation in epidemic proportions. Officials say a potential flu epidemic is more of a public danger than any potential threat by terrorists.
In fact, scientists have been tracking bird flu mutations for decades, and warning authorities about the coming dangers if it was left free to evolve. Bird flu pathology is linked to a misfolded protein called "a-smooth muscle actin" (a-SMA) and mutated cells called "myofibroblasts," which cause fibroplasia and create fibrosis. This disease pathology first emerged in the USA in the early 1900's.
Misfolded a-SMA and myofibroblast pathology characterize a disease called fibromuscular dysplasia (FMD). FMD was offically acknowledged in the USA in 1938 when Drs. Leadbetter and Burkland proved the disease was being transmitted congenitally. FMD first was discovered in domestic turkeys in the USA in 1980.
H5N1 bird flu's evolutionary tale is long, and linked via the actin protein to FMD and Mad Cow disease. Understanding the tale takes knowledge of molecular biology, biochemistry, proteomics and genetics, at least. Our governments are counting on our scientific ignorance.
The unfortunately harsh reality is that terrorists don't need to do anything at all. It's already been done, in the name of capitalism and the free market.
Concerns to protect industry and "the economy" override any efforts to protect ordinary people from the H5N1 bird flu epidemic, as with the Mad Cow epidemics. Unfortunately, what people don't know can hurt them.
Someday soon, it no longer will be possible to camouflage this new epidemic, and "the terrorists" will be held responsible. And although the time for effective quarantine is decades past, no doubt quarantine will be touted as the best defense
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Is there any evidence to suggest that the similarity between FMD and this hybrid strain of influenza is 'unnatural?'
In other words, what degree of manipulation is present, and is that manipulation 'tagged' with signs of human interference?
Or is it just a case of natural, viral evolution, which is more evidently more rapid than any other organism on earth?
Also, to what degree is the delivery mechanism critical to the human-human transmission? I imagine that an aerial spray or food contamination would spread like wildfire, as would any contamination of water sources. In other words, if this epidemic occurs naturally, won't we be able to tell because the transmission patterns will be identical to every other instance of flu? Or do we have no way of knowing, or discerning the source of the epidemic based on the particulars of its transmission?
Originally posted by LazarusTheLong
soficrow
Someday soon, it no longer will be possible to camouflage this new epidemic, and "the terrorists" will be held responsible. And although the time for effective quarantine is decades past, no doubt quarantine will be touted as the best defense
Jon Stewart said it best when he jokingly said... everything that is being done to the american public will be blamed on the gay married terrorists...
I am worried that countries like China, will destroy thousands of chickens at the first sign of the flu, and our own government wont even admit it exists or that it is crossing species...
they will neglect to be prepared for an epidemic, and if/when it occurs... they will blame it on the terrorists , thus reinforcing the "neccessity" of the patriot act 1,2 and maybe more...
We are an intellegent country...the american people deserve the truth... and we also deserve to know when we HAVE to clean up a mess from the past, and not be lied to ...
I would rather be depressed and know the truth, than be fed lies that make me feel all "happy happy joy joy..."
also sofi: you made the connection between FMD and bird flu...
clarify please... is it a situation where people with FMD are more likely to get the deadly form of the virus, while non FMD, might be mild sufferers, or is it that the FMD allows the birds to get sick? or is it that they are variants of the same prion based issue?
Originally posted by arnold_vosloo
just can't seem to get the image of the 'terrorists' carrying around dead chickens to rub in the face of the infidels.
Originally posted by dgtempe
Why doesnt this surprise me?
I could just see my reaction if anyone tells me they have the dreaded flu on account of terrorism DGTEMPE loses her cool, film at 11
Originally posted by WyrdeOne
Sofi
You missed the point of one of my questions, I think because I'm quite sleepy and my syntax is decidedly sub-par (even for an American ). When I asked about the difference between natural and artificial distribution patterns, or infection areas, I was alluding to a possible way to catch anyone who tries to blame terrorists for a natural occurence.
In other words, if the flu naturally spreads in a certain pattern (I don't know if it does or not) and that pattern is not present for this next epidemic, we'll know something isn't right. If the spread of the disease conforms to normal parameters, and the government tries to tell us the disease was spread intentionally by whatever means, we'll know (or have an idea at least) that they're lying. The rate of transmission, or pattern of infection, or the way the epidemic develops, could all be clues that might help in catching the liars in the act. You know what I mean?
the Northwood report is a good example... it talks about what they wanted to achieve during the cuban missle crisis... they were willing to kill innocent civilians by the hundreds (and blame it on cubans), just to get the moral backing of the american populace...
or during WW2... when our president had full knowledge of Pearl Harbor, but ordered a hush on all info warning them... why?
he had to have an "alamo" to rally the american public to a blood frenzy...
and i wont even think about 9-11... could our own leaders have done it?... well they did on several previous occassions, so why not one more?
Originally posted by Muaddib
Soficrow, why do you think the US just bought 2 million vaccines of H5N1? You think it is because of an evil plan to rid the world of most people, or are those vaccines available to stop as fast as possible the spread of the virus?...
I would like to know what country in the world has enough vaccines for their entire population for H5N1.