With 99.8 percent of USA Covid-19 Cases Not Needing Hospitalization...

originally posted by: paraphi


The current view is that 2-3% of people who catch Covid-19 will die, and that a good percentage (up to 30%) will be hospitalised or require ventilator support.

Not sure where you get your numbers but they are innacurate.

2-3% of diagnosed Covid-19 cases will die. Many will go undiagnosed. Over 80% of confirmed cases have extremely mild symptoms, so 30% being hospitalized is definitely wrong. This does not account for a huge number that go undiagnosed because the symptoms are so mild they do nothing about it.

If I had to choose the flu or Covid-19, I would definitely prefer getting Covid-19 as far as the symptoms go.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: neutronflux

I've got better things to do than waste my time trying to get you to see the forest for the trees...

You have time to spread fear through implications and innuendo? But not cite and quote actual facts? What are your motives then?

Just exactly how much influence do you think I have perpetuating fear ....

Like I said I don't care what you do, it's your life you exposed to many different forms of both information and conversation, what you do with it is on you ..

That is not the issue.

Can you cite a source on what the actual effects of Coronavirus is on the lungs? What the long term effects might be. And what those effects are compared to the cold, flu, pneumonia.

Or you just using innuendo to create doom porn?

Reports out of Italy are indicating that they don't have enough crematories to keep up with the influx of corpses.

Before that, we heard about how they don't have enough intensive care units at their hospitals to handle all the serious/critical coronavirus patients.

Seems like the virus might be a real life problem.

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: neutronflux

I've got better things to do than waste my time trying to get you to see the forest for the trees...

You have time to spread fear through implications and innuendo? But not cite and quote actual facts? What are your motives then?

Just exactly how much influence do you think I have perpetuating fear ....

Like I said I don't care what you do, it's your life you exposed to many different forms of both information and conversation, what you do with it is on you ..

That is not the issue.

Can you cite a source on what the actual effects of Coronavirus is on the lungs? What the long term effects might be. And what those effects are compared to the cold, flu, pneumonia.

Or you just using innuendo to create doom porn?

So you think after 3 months there's going to be peer reviewed scientific research on this virus, you seriously cannot be that dense...

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: carewemust
Current USA Covid-19 Statistics (Updated Hourly): www.worldometers.info...

Lies, damned lies and statistics. Everyone's a statistician. Taking a snapshot to draw a conclusion that 99.8% of Covid-19 cases don't lead to hospitalisation is fraught with poor assumptions, if indeed that's what you did. Not sure where you got that figure from.

The current view is that 2-3% of people who catch Covid-19 will die, and that a good percentage (up to 30%) will be hospitalised or require ventilator support. While people may survive, they may be left with permanent lung damage.

It's right for the authorities to prepare their healthcare systems for the worst.

To th OP. Let's hope you don't learn the hard way that your assumption is wrong.

I agree with this 100%

This is the second time the OP has made this foolish thread. Why did you make two of the same threads?

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: neutronflux

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: neutronflux

I've got better things to do than waste my time trying to get you to see the forest for the trees...

You have time to spread fear through implications and innuendo? But not cite and quote actual facts? What are your motives then?

Just exactly how much influence do you think I have perpetuating fear ....

Like I said I don't care what you do, it's your life you exposed to many different forms of both information and conversation, what you do with it is on you ..

That is not the issue.

Can you cite a source on what the actual effects of Coronavirus is on the lungs? What the long term effects might be. And what those effects are compared to the cold, flu, pneumonia.

Or you just using innuendo to create doom porn?

So you think after 3 months there's going to be peer reviewed scientific research on this virus, you seriously cannot be that dense...

So you only have innuendo, fear mongering, with no facts? What country are you a citizen of?

a reply to: butcherguy

A country of 60 million cannot support funeral arrangements for .004 percent of their population?

2503 deaths in Italy as a result of the Coronavirus.

Or is it the red tape from the quarantine?

a reply to: carewemust

That's weird dude, according to your link out of all the cases in the U.S. (6,534) it says there is 12 in ICU and that 116 have died and only 106 have recovered so far. Why is that? If it is so mild then why is there actually more people that have died so far than have recovered?

I think you better take a look at Italy if you want a better idea of what is about to go down here in the states and times that by 1000 because we are delaying the quarantine far longer than she did and it's not looking too pretty for her right about now.

Like everyone says, this ain't China, the government cant just lock us all up in a split second. Our reluctance to quarantine is about to come with a big price. The U.S. is about to take a major blow. Buckle up buttercup.

a reply to: neutronflux

www.cdc.gov...

I mean you can argue that these were lab verified but most likely it was clinical diagnosis

Edited to add

www.breitbart.com...

But this is all Anecdotal evidence

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: carewemust

Are you trying to convince us or yourself...

Himself. This is the second thread of the same BS numbers of his.

originally posted by: oldschoolwarhawk
a reply to: neutronflux

www.cdc.gov...

I mean you can argue that these were lab verified but most likely it was clinical diagnosis

What do unit get about....

They estimated that, prior to the lockdown of Wuhan on Jan. 23, about 86% of all COVID-19 infections in China were undetected. In other words, for every confirmed case of COVID-19, there were six undetected cases, according to The Washington Post.

www.livescience.com...

originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: butcherguy

A country of 60 million cannot support funeral arrangements for .004 percent of their population?

2503 deaths in Italy as a result of the Coronavirus.

Or is it the red tape from the quarantine?

As happened in China, the number of deaths exceeds the capacity of the existing crematories. It takes time to incinerate a body. Many crematories have a single body capacity and the process takes several hours minimum.
People continue to die of the same causes that they did before the virus. The added deaths due to the virus have exceeded the limit of the infrastructure.

a reply to: butcherguy

Yep. It can take up to six hours to cremate and process one body. It’s not rocket science to figure out why crematoria are struggling to keep up with an increase in demand.

originally posted by: butcherguy
Reports out of Italy are indicating that they don't have enough crematories to keep up with the influx of corpses.

Before that, we heard about how they don't have enough intensive care units at their hospitals to handle all the serious/critical coronavirus patients.

Seems like the virus might be a real life problem.

There must be something either different about Italians....or something protecting Americans....or both.

a reply to: oldschoolwarhawk

CDC webpage says during the 2018-2019 Flu season in America, 808,000 were hospitalized and 61,000 died.

Source w/Age Breakdown: www.cdc.gov...

For CoronaVirus-19 to fill the 200,000 available ICU beds, will require over 100 million people to be infected, since only 2/10th of 1% require hospitalization at all.

a reply to: butcherguy

Can you cite a source that a country of 60 million cannot inter 2000 individuals or .0004 percent of its population.

Or is its ability compromised by the enforcement of the lockdown?

a reply to: butcherguy

Italy’s Coronavirus Victims Face Death Alone, With Funerals Postponed

www.nytimes.com...

As morgues are inundated, coffins pile up and mourners grieve in isolation: ‘‘This is the bitterest part.’’

ROME — At around midnight on Wednesday, Renzo Carlo Testa, 85, died from the coronavirus in a hospital in the northern Italian town of Bergamo. Five days later, his body was still sitting in a coffin, one of scores lined head-to-toe in the church of the local cemetery, which is itself closed to the public.

His wife of 50 years, Franca Stefanelli, would like to give him a proper funeral. But traditional funeral services are illegal throughout Italy now, part of the national restrictions against gatherings and going out that have been put in place to try to stem the spread of Europe’s worst outbreak of the coronavirus. In any case, she and her sons could not attend anyway, because they are themselves sick and in quarantine.

So do you have actual facts or doom by innuendo?

a reply to: Alien Abduct

You'd expect results like this for a mild virus. Those being submitted to ICU have complications.

I keep seeing people here and on social media talk about the young and how bad this is / will be. It's attacking the old and sick, just like flu. It's just got 100000000% more coverage.

My interest lays with why there has been such a big response and the only way it's justified is if later on this comes out as man made or a bioweapon. If those are the case the happenings now would be justified even based on numbers that don't appear to justify.

a reply to: butcherguy

And you do understand Italy is mostly catholic? And Cremation is not in high demand from those that are catholic?


So your innuendo fails on many levels. Unless you can cite facts?

originally posted by: carewemust
There must be something either different about Italians....or something protecting Americans....or both.

I'm going to type this really slow.

It. Is. Just. Getting. Started. Here.

Our numbers will far surpass Italy very soon. It's too late for a quarantine to stop the spread. People are still, today, swarming to Walmart, etc... to buy all the toilet paper and food they can get. We also have less ICU beds per capita than Italy, which is a huge part of their problem. Our government failed us by dragging their feet on it for 2 months. We're screwed.