Did coronavirus originate in Chinese government laboratory? Chinese Scientists believe "it did."

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie

to me it's laughable how certain people always reach for a far fetched reason to find a conspiracy or cover up.

We'll see whom is resorting to "far fetched incoherent ramblings."

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
you do know what preprint means on a paper don't you? it means that it has not been peer reviewed or published in a scientific journal.

You do know that the CCP is a dictatorial regime which can stop a paper from two Chinese scientists presenting a logical argument which puts the blame on China?...

Or are you going to tell us that you "blindly believe the CCP"?...

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
here i found this while trying to find a good link for your broken one.

While the two authors do not provide any evidence that the novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2) was created in the lab, they build their case based on assumptions. They begin by saying that bats carrying the novel coronavirus are originally found in Yunnan or Zhejiang province, which is more than 900 km from the seafood market at the centre of the investigation on the source. Hence, the chances of bats “flying to the market” are slim.
Opinion | A preprint provides ammunition to conspiracy theories about SARS-CoV-2 origin

now granted this is a Opinion piece. but The Hindu is rated high for factual reporting and their sources.
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The scientists didn't assume anything, they gave a logical argument why they think the virus' source was either the Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention (WHCDC), or the second lab which belongs to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences.

This is not "assuming..."

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The bats carrying CoV ZC45 were originally found in Yunnan or Zhejiang province,
both of which were more than 900 kilometers away from the seafood market. Bats were
normally found to live in caves and trees. But the seafood market is in a densely-populated
district of Wuhan, a metropolitan of ~15 million people. The probability was very low for the
bats to fly to the market. According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents
and 28 visitors, the bat was never a food source in the city, and no bat was traded in the
market. There was possible natural recombination or intermediate host of the coronavirus,
yet little proof has been reported.
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web.archive.org...:/www.researchgate.net/publication/339070128_The_possible_origins_of_2019-nCoV_coronavirus

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
so i guess i'm one of those certain people that would take the word of a left leaning, opinion piece over a super market tabloid any day. plus, did you notice that your external source has the word preprint at the top.

You are doing more than that. You are giving more credence to the CCP propaganda, and you seem to think that because the CCP can shutdown research papers from China, which put the blame on China, and for you that's enough to claim these Chinese scientists are wrong... Oh, and the false OPINION of a Hindu writer whom apparently didn't even read the "pre-print research paper by the Chinese scientists."

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
also do you really believe that the WHO would back China in this so called BIO weapon escape/ or accident. to do that and if any evidence came out that it did cover it up their credibility would be shot completely. they don't have a high degree of that now.

Do you forget that the CCP didn't want any scientists/doctors helping them find out how this happened/started?

As for your claim that because the paper is 1 page and a half that means we can ignore it, is as asinine as believing that because the CCP shutdown a paper by two Chinese scientists, which puts the blame of this epidemic on China/CCP, that it means this is just a "conspiracy theory", and there is no truth in it...

BTW, it's obvious you simply have no idea what tactics are used by the CCP/Chinese government...

In fact not that long ago several masked men set on fire the printing press of the independent newspaper "Epoch Times..." One of the few independent newspapers in China which it's editorial staff is not afraid of trying to print the truth about events occurring in China...

This is what the CCP does to those newspapers in mainland China they can't control/shut down.

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
I am no authority on this, but aren't there genetic markers when a virus is engineered? With this many people looking at it I would think someone would have noticed by now.

I think that will come out in the near future. We do know that the facility was China’s most advanced virus research laboratory known as the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and it is the only declared site in China capable of working with deadly viruses. Makes one go hmmmm since they have also shut it down.

So a researcher gets covid-19 in the facility, doesn't know it, leaves there after work and goes to the place he goes everyday after work to get food...the market. Many people in close proximity and BAM! we have ground zero.

a reply to: PhyllidaDavenport

This was most likely the researcher in charge of weaponizing COVID-19.



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More evidence showing that COVID-19 most likely was being developed in a Chinese level 4 biolab is the response from China to enhance security in

By Steven W. Mosher February 22, 2020 | 11:18am | Updated
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Xi didn’t actually admit that the coronavirus now devastating large swaths of China had escaped from one of the country’s bioresearch labs. But the very next day, evidence emerged suggesting that this is exactly what happened, as the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology released a new directive titled: “Instructions on strengthening biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus.”
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Don’t buy China’s story: The coronavirus may have leaked from a lab

How ironic that the Chinese are trying to blame the U.S. for this virus, when they have taken steps which proves COVID-19 was released from a Chinese level 4 biolab.

Why would they "strengthen biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus?

There is no other reason for taking this step than the fact that this virus was being developed in Wuhan China, and somehow was released accidentally.