UFO Sets Boy's Hair On Fire.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit
The Cash-Landrum case is not as isolated an incident as some people think, then, in terms of injuries suffered from a UFO (or black project).

I'm not aware of any injuries in the Cash-Landrum case. I'm aware of claims of injuries, but not actual injuries resulting from exposure to a UFO.

So to me this case is nothing like the Cash Landrum case, because it seems the 8 year old by was actually injured by the UFO, something I can't say about anybody involved with Cash-Landrum, there are too many red flags with that case.

Good point, mate. I should have thrown an "allegedly" into the mix, but generally the case's headline attraction for the genre masses is "UFO injury!"... until the details are inspected more closely.

originally posted by: jeep3r

By the way, I have a new thread in the works and hope it'll be ready-to-post in this forum later this week.

Sounds enticing! Care to give us a few clues about the subject matter in the meantime?

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

Thanks for the post mate and don't think this or CL can be regarded as isolated incidents as I've read quite a number of (alleged) reports over the years of UFOs causing 'burns' to witnesses - these accounts from Brazil of an egg shaped object are pretty intriguing as they're from early November, 1957 - the same time loads of egg shaped UFO reports were flooding in from the U.S. (link).

This Argentinian case from a year before the Hobbs case is also quite interesting as it's stated the close range UFO emitted light which knocked over witnesses causing first, second and third degree burns.

Argentina: Tucumán, UFOs and the Story that Inspired Spielberg

..Strange lights were visible over the Belgrano railroad tracks, only meters away, looking like "when a fluorescent bulb has gone out," Moreno explained. "There was a tube covering the entire track, and you could see the silhouettes of people walking from one light to another. The silhouettes could have been our own. One could see arms, legs and heads in the distance."

Later, she said that when her sister wanted to turn on the flashlight to open the gate, a light "like flamethrower" knocked her and the servant to the ground, inflicting "first, second and third degree burns" to the servants face.

"The Trancas Case represented a before and after, especially in those days, when talking about UFOs was considered deranged," reflects Carlos Burgi, a ufologist with Tucumán OVNI. "It's a landmark case because the craft were seen not only by the Moreno sisters, but also by their parents, the servant, and neighbors." Furthermore, the alleged vehicles left some small white orbs and spots on the grass and the railroad tracks, Burgi adds.

Full Report

ATS resident expert on the Cash Landrum case Curt Collins has also posted about another early interesting case involving a boy here and always remembered this incident as the victim suffered burns in six inch circles on his head and died 59 days later - this other Brazilian case involving Joan Prestes Filho is also very freaky as the guy's ears and nose fell off.

a reply to: karl 12

Thanks for the info on the Trancas case. The number of witnesses of that incident is an important aspect, too.

Spare time caused by the Coronavirus is likely to lead to a more thorough self-education in this area of ufology.

PS: Also, the subject of USOs is one I have only ever lightly touched upon, despite the waterworld's great potential for providing answers to this mystery. You and I discussed them before, but USOs never seem to get off the ground (or off the water) as a general topic of interest, which is a great shame.

It's odd that the Nimitz case (whatever one's views on it) did not inspire greater interest in USOs since the initial underwater 'craft' as described by Fravor overshadows fuzzy blobs in a FLIR video. IMO anyway.

a reply to: jeep3r

Good summation there Jeep3r, look forward to the thread and really do agree with your comments about David Marler and James Mcdonald - seems Dr Mcdonald actually went through a great many Bluebook reports and here he is describing what he found:

"As a result of several trips to project Bluebook,I´ve had an opportunity to examine quite carefully and in detail the types of reports that are made by Bluebook personnel.In most cases,I have found that theres almost no correlation between so-called "evaluations and explanations" that are made by Bluebook and the facts of the case... 
There are hundreds of good cases in the Air Force files that should have led to top-level scientific scrutiny of this problem,years ago,yet these cases have been swept under the rug in a most disturbing way by Project Bluebook investigators and their consultants." 

Dr James McDonald -Senior physicist at the Institute for Atmospheric Physics and professor in the Department of Meteorology at the University of Arizona

Also looks like there were a great many 'close range' UFO reports:

"The type of UFO reports that are most intriguing are close-range sightings of machine-like objects of unconventional nature and unconventional performance characteristics, seen at low altitudes, and sometimes even on the ground. The general public is entirely unaware of the large number of such reports that are coming from credible witnesses... When one starts searching for such cases, their number are quite astonishing. Also, such sightings appear to be occurring all over the globe." (Hearings before the Committee on Science and Astronautics, U.S. House of Representatives, July 29, 1968.) 

Dr. James E. McDonald, Senior Physicist at the Institute of Atmospheric Physics at the University of Arizona

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

Sounds enticing! Care to give us a few clues about the subject matter in the meantime?

Of course, I didn't mean to be too secretive about it...

It'll be a thread about certain patterns in UFO sightings. Nothing that's not been mentioned before, but maybe a topic that deserves another thread, at least I haven't done one on that before but always wanted to.

And I just realized that it may take a bit longer than planned if it's supposed to be presented in a nice way. "It's done when it's done", or so the saying goes!

a reply to: ConfusedBrit

No worries mate and agree it's very nice to find spare time to look further into this subject, you're not wrong about the USO aspect either -some truly fascinating accounts and we've both posted it before but I think this is one of my favourite threads on ATS.


USO Research


It was already included in Schuessler's catalogue but when it comes to other UFO burn cases it seems the authorities were extremely interested by the Desverges case (although how the main witness was treated after the incident was an absolute disgrace) - if you've not seen it before here's Dolan discussing potential evidence, other witnesses and photographs confiscated by the USAF.





The scoutmaster's 'burned eyes' aspect also pops up again in other very bizarre cases like the Kentucky Stanford , A11 Gary Wood, Val Johnson, Carl Higdon and Robert Taylor incidents (I know you like that last one).

originally posted by: jeep3r

It'll be a thread about certain patterns in UFO sightings.

Excellent.

I've always believed that patterns hold one of the keys to the entire mystery, so I look forward to your work.

originally posted by: karl 12
a reply to: ConfusedBrit

No worries mate and agree it's very nice to find spare time to look further into this subject.

The UFO forum is understandably erratic at present, but once everybody settles into their inevitable isolation (and potential curfew), the interest and number of posts should perk up considerably.

Ta for the Dolan link, I'll get stuck into that. I'm a bit drunk tonight (a rare occurrence these days), so perhaps I shouldn't be posting anyway, lol.

originally posted by: jeep3r

It'll be a thread about certain patterns in UFO sightings.

Well there's quite a few of those mate.

Seems accounts of burns from UFOs aren't that rare either - here's another newspaper report involving a police officer from May 13th, 1978:

1978-Police Officer Suffers Burns from a UFO


"It was just a routine patrol," Amparano says of the encounter 24 years ago.

His early morning sweep took him past Kerman High School. At Del Norte and California avenues, Amparano saw "a circular-type thing, similar to a round fireball or a setting sun, about 100 to 150 feet off the ground."

He knew local teens had been setting palm trees on fire, and he thought he had caught some young vandals red-handed.

"Then I realized there were no palm trees in the area. The fire seemed to be inside of an oak or maple tree. This thing started lifting up," Amparano says.

The officer started adjusting the spotlight on his patrol car to get a better look at the object. But just before he turned on the light, there was a bright blue flash. Then the object made a sharp turn and moved away toward the southwest at a rapid speed.

Amparano had not left his car. And the windows were rolled up because it was a cold evening. He did not hear any other noise except for the engine of his car.

The Air National Guard, weather bureau and the Fresno Air Terminal told Amparano nothing unusual showed up on any of their radar screens that night.

The encounter might have been dismissed as an optical illusion, if not for the burns Amparano suffered on his face and chest.

"It was like a sunburn when you fall asleep at the pool. There were white blisters on the parts of my body facing that light. I also had trouble with sunlight. It was like right after you have your eyes checked and they are sensitive to light. That lasted about a week," Amparano says.

Doctors at Fresno Community Hospital told Amparano the burns appeared to be caused by microwaves.

link

originally posted by: ConfusedBrit

originally posted by: jeep3r

It'll be a thread about certain patterns in UFO sightings.

Excellent.

I've always believed that patterns hold one of the keys to the entire mystery, so I look forward to your work.

originally posted by: karl 12
a reply to: ConfusedBrit


The UFO forum is understandably erratic at present, but once everybody settles into their inevitable isolation (and potential curfew), the interest and number of posts should perk up considerably.

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That is: If everybody had wi-fi hook-up in their homes and phones --- Which I do not --- At the present moment...I'm sitting here in a parking lot for the closed public library (because of Covid 9); in Baltimore, Maryland. Just lucky enough to gain a wi fi band signal here.
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Fiery-balled foo fighters are like gila monsters --- Meaning a bright color is obviously a visual warning not to mess with it.

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