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Dr. Jeffrey Swisher, MD, Chairman, Department of Anesthesiology...N-95 masks fail to protect you.

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posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 07:27 PM
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Dr. Jeffrey Swisher, MD, Chairman,


Department of Anesthesiology, California Pacific Medical Center
2333 Buchanan St, San Francisco, CA 94115, Phone: (415) 600-2077, states, " This mask issue is really a problem. Again, you do not protect yourself against COVID-19 by wearing a mask! The viral particles are too small and the filtration ability of surgical masks is insufficient. Even N-95 masks fail to protect you."

twitter.com...

As I have warned before in several posts, the CoVID-19 is 125nm.
bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com...
The N95 will only filter down to 300nm.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...
It is kind of like tossing a grape through an orange sized hole, an inch away.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 07:34 PM
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a reply to: Violater1

Why does he care if people spend a few bucks for masks? Is he an avid woodworker or something? Bulletproof vests don't protect most of a person... Like throwing a grape in an orange sized hole.

Now if you're spending $50+ then yeah that's just dumb.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 07:49 PM
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True it seems. However, I believe ionization of the layers does appear to provide some protection. Need goggles too though...



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 07:52 PM
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I am not worried about the virus, no mask is going to seal against my face with my beard anyway. You would need a respirator for painting cars for a mask, I am not going to wear one of those at the store. I do have some n95 and other masks, but got them for sanding stuff free after rebate at Menards a year or so ago. If I die from this virus, I die, why should I spend my days worrying about this fear mongering put out by those who want to profit by our fear. Yes, by all means, do risk assessment, but do not get stressed because you may never even get the disease, and the vast majority of the people who do only get a minor case of the virus.

Fear does raise histamine levels which can help to kill viral infections, but too much histamine can do more damage than good to our bodies.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 07:54 PM
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People are buying out hand sanitizer like crazy here in town. All the drug stores are sold out. Even the travel size ones are gone. All shift long at work, people were asking where the sanitizer was and if we'd be getting any more soon. Apparently Costco in the city was totally out of toilet paper yesterday.

The last few days have seen a ramp up in people getting more serious about illness. So many people buying large amounts of cold medicines too, many of them just stocking up.

I also had several asking about masks, but we don't carry the medical grade ones. Only those used in construction.
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posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 08:03 PM
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Department of Anesthesiology, California Pacific Medical Center

Nuff said.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 08:18 PM
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a reply to: Violater1

I think the confusion is in degree of protection. Anyone who doesn't think a mask will at least somewhat protect you from one of the digusting open coughing pigs we've all seen far too much of, is an idiot. As is anyone who thinks it's like wearing a positive pressure sealed ebolasuit.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 10:17 PM
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I read masks arent to protect You from anything but touching Your mouth which We do unconsciously like 100 times a day.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 10:48 PM
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It's my understanding that most of these masks are to prevent the already sick from easily spreding the virus via sneezing and coughing.

But when people begin seeing cases of covid-19 sprouting up in there communities they will try anything - no matter how long the odds of it being effective.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 10:52 PM
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Ha small world I know this guy but I digress

The main issue with people and the N95 is that the require fit testing. We do it once a year. You put it on, put a hood over your head and spray in some nasty smelling stuff, you say words, you turn your head etc. If you can smell the stuff its a fail and you adjust the mask accordingly and retest till you pass.

Unless you have done this they are basically a feelgood measure



posted on Mar, 5 2020 @ 06:50 AM
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originally posted by: FredT
Ha small world I know this guy but I digress

The main issue with people and the N95 is that the require fit testing. We do it once a year. You put it on, put a hood over your head and spray in some nasty smelling stuff, you say words, you turn your head etc. If you can smell the stuff its a fail and you adjust the mask accordingly and retest till you pass.

Unless you have done this they are basically a feelgood measure


The main issue with the P95s is that they do not cover the full bet...full stop.

This beast is transmitting both bacterially and virally....@ the same time....its IMHO a weaponised Pleomorphic bacteria the same one that causes the damages we mistakenly call cancer.

Fit testing is SOP....it is not a gamebreaker... you have to have a legitimate seal or positive airflow of course however if your filters aren't specifically designed to filter out the proper size particles you are hooped and wasting your time and money while @ the same time depriving Medical Pros of having the appropriate PPE[P95s] for specific non Wu-Flu related jobs they must do.

"if" THEY TOLD US HOW TO DISCERN BETWEN THOSE TRANSMITTING BACTERIALLY AND THOSE TRANSMITTING VIRALLY WE COULD MAKE BETTER CHOICES with levels of protection and protocals ......however remember this Beast is hitting us from 2 directions at once.....and.....once we knock it down bacterially OR virally it responds by switching spots....which is evidence of a pleomorphic host.



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posted on Mar, 5 2020 @ 07:05 AM
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a reply to: one4all

P95 masks are like N95 masks, except rated for oils as well, like aerosolized oils in an industrial setting, they're not PPE.

Also, the masks people are buying in stores aren't drawing off the stocks of medical supply distributors.

As for this being the first known viral/bacterial combo disease, that's some oretty far out speculation.



posted on Mar, 5 2020 @ 07:22 AM
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originally posted by: dogstar23
a reply to: one4all

P95 masks are like N95 masks, except rated for oils as well, like aerosolized oils in an industrial setting, they're not PPE.

Also, the masks people are buying in stores aren't drawing off the stocks of medical supply distributors.



As for this being the first known viral/bacterial combo disease, that's some oretty far out speculation.

P5 is not N95 my error nice catch...…. thank you ……...however the facts remain the same regardless.

Conventional Supplies held by Medical Distributors have been depleted already globally obviously.... there are Medical Professionls in Canada personally sourcing masks now because they cannot get them the traditional ways....and the Private marketplace gives us access to the same levels of Protection.....I used to work in an Industrial Setting in a Tool Crib...I learned a little bit about masks and filters and applications based under severe Union Pressure to provide a Safe Workplace....people needlessly buying masks that will not help them when the Medical Profession now has to rely on Public supplies presents a problem.

I did not say"the first"....I said IMHO it is a weaponised Pleomorphic Bacteria....yes an opinion is speculation and speculation is often the harbinger of truth.



This Mask with the appropriate Filters will keep you safe from the airborne transmission risks.

Under extreme circumstances you need the eye protection from a full face mask with a full face seal.

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posted on Mar, 5 2020 @ 08:26 AM
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The USA has just 1% of the masks it needs to combat a full blown outbreak

EU very similar also

So of course they don’t help, the medical staff need them first with none front line workers waring them and taking them all up it won’t help, I guess that’s the only honest part of the claim, other than that TOTAL BS

Coronavirus is airborne & aerosolised just washing your hands leaves 2 other ways the virus will infect you, breathing it in and it getting into your eyes

Trust me they will help
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posted on Mar, 5 2020 @ 08:58 AM
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I always wondered why gloves weren't the #1 choice when in public. If the disease isn't communicated by air why wear a mask? Do you really get sneezed in the face that often? Never happened to me other than by my own children when they were little. Latex/rubber disposable gloves would seem more effective when in public.



posted on Mar, 8 2020 @ 09:18 AM
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originally posted by: dogstar23
a reply to: one4all

P95 masks are like N95 masks, except rated for oils as well, like aerosolized oils in an industrial setting, they're not PPE.

Also, the masks people are buying in stores aren't drawing off the stocks of medical supply distributors.

As for this being the first known viral/bacterial combo disease, that's some oretty far out speculation.


I haven't checked the 3M website. The P95, like it's sister the N95, may filter down to 300nm. CoVID19 is 125nm.



posted on Mar, 8 2020 @ 09:23 AM
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If N95 masks don't help, that means the particles are small enough to be airborne.

So they are lying about one aspect or the other.

Do masks work? Or is it airborne? It's one or the other.



posted on Mar, 8 2020 @ 04:58 PM
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Sometimes you just have to laugh!



posted on Mar, 16 2020 @ 09:53 PM
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In an attempt for some clarity...does it stop the the spread of the virus if an infected person wears a mask?



posted on Mar, 31 2020 @ 08:47 PM
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a reply to: Violater1



If this doesn't drive you batty, nothing will :~)



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