Tommy Robinson Arrested Again

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot

Political affiliation does not = racism. Maybe he was allured to the party due to it matching some of his beliefs on Islam.

In the case of BNP political affiliation very much does equal racism.

Regardless of my personal reaction the last thing I would have done is film my daughter and post the video on the internet and social media for everyone to see.
If she has been sexually assaulted in anyway she needs protecting and caring for.
All interviews with her during any criminal investigation would be conducted by highly trained officers specialising in such cases and techniques.
I don't think broadcasting this video is in her best interests.....and could it prejudice any subsequent court case?

Where's carpy when you need him?

originally posted by: Freeborn
Regardless of my personal reaction the last thing I would have done is film my daughter and post the video on the internet and social media for everyone to see.
If she has been sexually assaulted in anyway she needs protecting and caring for.
All interviews with her during any criminal investigation would be conducted by highly trained officers specialising in such cases and techniques.
I don't think broadcasting this video is in her best interests.....and could it prejudice any subsequent court case?

Where's carpy when you need him?

Almost like 'Tommy' actually only cares about his own self promotion.

a reply to: blueman12

To be fair, the inbreeding in the Pakistani community is rife in the UK, so he's not wrong on that. I'd say it's more than 50% of young girls marrying their first cousins. Just look at the rate of birth defects in the Muslim community compared with national averages if you have any doubts. Pakistani parents account for 3.4% of births in the UK yet 30% of all children born with recessive gene disorders have parents of Pakistani origin. They are 13x more likely to have children with birth disorders. In the worldwide Muslim community the statistical average of first cousin marriages is around 50%.

Domestic terrorism, predominantly Muslim.

Child abuse is also a problem within the community.

I wouldn't say 50% but certainly attitudes toward these topics are far different in the Muslim community compared with the wider British public.

a reply to: ScepticScot

I very much doubt every member of the BNP was and is racist.

For a man that loves his own voice that much you should be able to attribute at least one racist quote to him. Just one!

a reply to: Freeborn

I agree with all of that.

Where is carpy actually? The old goat kind of grows on you and he will definitely be able to clear things up regarding the legality of it all.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Sure he does, i have no interest in Tommy, what does grind my gears is the sexual exploitation of children and subsequent dodging of criminal prosecution.

In this case i fear this kids father will skew public opinion.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot

I very much doubt every member of the BNP was and is racist.

For a man that loves his own voice that much you should be able to attribute at least one racist quote to him. Just one!

I assume you don't know who the BNP are then.

Pick one.

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a reply to: Grenade

Aye, fair point but the guy has countless other tweets that make him look bad. Point being, he's not someone anybody should look up to.

a reply to: ScepticScot

What can we expect from a man who knowingly jeopardised not one but two grooming trials solely to heighten his own public profile?
He wasn't bothered about the victims in those trials seeing justice done and he seems to be exploiting this situation to get himself in the headlines again.

The man is pure pond life.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Horrific hate speech but not racist.

Islam is not a race.

Some of the Pakistani comments are borderline and he could have been more tactful in his criticism however i agree with him, very little good comes out of that particular country.

a reply to: blueman12

Totally, he's an egotistical maniac and rather odious human being, however that has no bearing on his right as a father to defend his daughter. Nor should she be judged because of her fathers actions.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot

Horrific hate speech but not racist.

Islam is not a race.

Some of the Pakistani comments are borderline and he could have been more tactful in his criticism however i agree with him, very little good comes out of that particular country.

All pakis smell isn't racist?

The hook nose comment isn't racist?

Some one doesn't actually need to state ' I don't like brown people' to be racist

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: UpIsNowDown

I'm not his biggest fan either but the whole racism thing doesn't wash with me.

I've never once heard him make a racist statement, his issue is with Islam. Happy for you to show me evidence of his racism.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot

I very much doubt every member of the BNP was and is racist.

For a man that loves his own voice that much you should be able to attribute at least one racist quote to him. Just one!

Maybe you not looked

twitter.com...

Tommy Robinson boasts about scoring drugs and proclaims himself 'king of whole Islam race', in newly emerged video

He is seen describing a taxi driver as a “little p**i who drives a car”.

I have spent more time than i wanted now googling TR, all of 5 seconds, not going to waste any more of my time with my son to show why people consider TR to be slightly bias against people of colour

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: blueman12

Totally, he's an egotistical maniac and rather odious human being, however that has no bearing on his right as a father to defend his daughter. Nor should she be judged because of her fathers actions.

We only have his word he was defending his daughter.

He is a known and proven liar with a track record of assaulting people.

I will wait for some actual evidence before accepting a single word he says.

a reply to: Grenade

Where is carpy actually? The old goat kind of grows on you and he will definitely be able to clear things up regarding the legality of it all.

Don't know where he is, he hasn't visited ATS for a couple of months now.

I don't know if the Brexit debacle finally got to him or of it was the constant banging his head against the wall in the flat earth thread that finished him off.

I do know he missed The Banter Cafe enormously.

Lets hope he finds his way back......for various reasons far too many good British members are no longer here, we don't want to lose another one.

a reply to: ScepticScot

No, i don't think it constitutes racism, its similar to Trumps stereotyping of Mexicans during his election campaign.

He never said all pakis smell.

Pointing out that people have hooked noses isn't racist. I lost my hair when i was young, is it racist if someone calls me bald?

Or when people make jokes about Scottish folk having red hair and being alcoholics.

The difference is the reaction it incites from the Muslim community.

a reply to: ScepticScot

His daughters word. She makes the accusation, not Tommy.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: ScepticScot

No, i don't think it constitutes racism, its similar to Trumps stereotyping of Mexicans during his election campaign.

He never said all pakis smell.

Pointing out that people have hooked noses isn't racist. I lost my hair when i was young, is it racist if someone calls me bald?

Or when people make jokes about Scottish folk having red hair and being alcoholics.

The difference is the reaction it incites from the Muslim community.

They are outright racist comment and jokes. You acknowledged yourself they are hate speech.

He has been a member of racist organisations

He targets people supposedly based on religion but who are all from same ethnic group.

At what point do you just accept the fairly obvious racism?

a reply to: Freeborn

Shame, we didn't start off on the right foot but over time we buried the hatchet and i started to enjoy his posts.

I spoke to him around Xmas, him and the wife had plans for a few drinks and submarine movies

Hope he comes back, grumpy old goat was a decent adversary.