Why we are not any the wiser on Gravity

a reply to: andy06shake

I kind of read it as they couldn't lift their heads off of the ground due to bone strength/density and muscle strength.

The Relative Bone Strength and Relative Muscle Strength Problem

Relative bone strength can be defined as the strength of the bone divided by the weight being supported by the leg bones. Likewise the relative muscle strength can be defined as the strength of the animal divided by its weight.

The relative bone strength and the relative muscle strength are grouped together because they are similar scaling problems. For both, strength is function of the cross-sectional area. If we look at the longest length of a bone or muscle and then imagine cutting this length in half, the newly exposed area is the cross-sectional area. The strength of either a bone or a muscle is directly proportional to this cross-sectional area, so both bone and muscle strength are two dimensional attributes. Yet body mass is a function of volume, a three dimensional attribute. In accordance to Galileo's Square Cube Law, as we look at increasingly larger animals, the mass of each animal increases at a faster rate than the cross-sectional areas of either the bone or the muscle. Thus, larger animals have less relative muscle strength and less relative bone strength than that of smaller animals.

Hmmm, maybe instead of oxygen, our atmosphere was pure helium so the bigger the body, the more it floats?

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: InTheLight

Aye, but they will burn out as well.

Nothing lasts forever, not even the universe.

We do indeed know nothing, and probably never will in the grand scheme of things.

The alternative though is to stagnate and descend into apathy and end up like Rome.

Then again we kind of are Rome and the dark ages were not that dark.

Nice talking with you i need to get some sleep now, kids up for school in 5 hours.

Have a good evening.

Too too, give your kids an extra kiss, just because.

Yeah, we are still the Rome mentality and it's up all of us here to veer that off into some other government. Hey, remember that saying, if you keep doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome...you insane.

originally posted by: ClovenSky
a reply to: booyakasha

The number people the take the EU theory seriously are growing daily. More and more discoveries are being made. The proponents are starting to make cosmology predictions that are far more accurate than those based solely on math and what our current experts are able to regurgitate. Just like newtons law of gravity, he was able to come up with a formula that explained 'what' but not even close to explaining 'why' or even 'how'. I think the biggest win will be when the EUs theory of our sun is confirmed. There is no patching together the outdated theories after that. When the sun is found out to be an electrical phenomena versus a nuclear reactor, then the fun starts.

good times ahead.

Citation required... iv never seen any predictions that are given... just post event "Look this proves that" without any mathematical or scientific treatment... so... please elaborate as to measurements. All i see from EU proponents is hot air supported by absolutely nothing but wishful thinking and ego.

originally posted by: Hyperboles
Nothing can bend space

A rubber box can.

a reply to: InTheLight

Just one last thought.

To be sane in an insane universe is kind of counterproductive to one's continued existence.

Cheers, will do with the kids.

Goodnight.

a reply to: nerbot

Space-time is bendy, and the reason we can see stars and around them that are rather far away.

A sheet of rubber with a metal sphere on its a good enough illustration, if somewhat crude.

a reply to: Hyperboles

I think if we think of gravity as both a cause and an effect - not just an effect - things may begin to make more sense.

a reply to: Riffrafter

Thanks you are onto something there

a reply to: sunkuong

Yes we experience gravitate 24 hours a day but now does anybody know what causes gravity and what exactly is gravity the answer is no

a reply to: Tulpa

Tangle untangle is not what we are after the two spheres are attracted towards each other prove distance of 5 centimetres 10 millimetres in either case what causes this attraction only two things present in the spear by where forces are nuclear forces Cohesion adhesion and what what attracted towards the centre of the mass is the binding energy and I think binding energy is the cause for Gravity

Electric tractor we would have

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Hyperboles

because we are not - its as simple as that

yours is an " ignorance of the gaps " failure

500 years ago - no one understood a myriad of basic sciences that are now taught to 12 yer olds - and that all but a small number of cultists now accept and understand

so - why is gravity - so important to you ???

we fully understand the effects of gravity on earth - and rely on them for several things

so why is the underlying explainer vital to you - and what would we be able to do - if we " cracked " it ?

where affected we would have anti gravity would be

a reply to: dfnj2015

Where we both agree that's dogma and general relativity cannot be shaken general relativity is only a dogma

a reply to: jjkenobi

Yes higher Gravity the first time the time flow quite interesting isn't it

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Hyperboles

Nothing can bend space so gravity is not result of bent space

You know that the space/time fabric being curved by gravity (mass) has already been proven , yes ?

volix is not been proven this is proven just a folder dogma of general relativity

a reply to: ICycle2

Good luck with your studies but I've advised to keep away from electric universe is there is no basis in electric universe

a reply to: andy06shake

just cause you can image something doesn't mean you know exactly what it is or why it is.

this series is super interesting. It goes into gravity, black holes, and the big bang.

a reply to: ErosA433

huh thats funny, i see it completely opposite.
To me its the educational system and mathematicians (these people aren't really scientists) who have spent their entire lives studying 100 year old theories. They struggle and end up having to fill in the gaps in their math with things like "dark matter" which is complete BS.
There science is based off the en.wikipedia.org... Michelson Mroley experiment which aimed to disprove the existence of the ether. which is what Telsa and Walter Russel and many other scientists were basing there science off.
These "scientists", they are not scientists, they are mathematicians, have spent all their money and all their time in this life trying to make a break through on some science based off of complete BS. Their Ego doesn't allow them to question that because it would mean their entire life is a lie.
the people who allow their egos to be challenged are the people who make breakthroughs.
This is why they are mathematicians and not scientists. Scientists look at every theory possible and amass such a giant body of evidence that it would be completely idiotic to believe something else. Mathematicians are taught to prove one theory correct and to use math to fill in the gaps.
Science can only disprove theories, it can not prove a theory.
There is so much evidence today that proves newtonian physics wrong and gives evidence that Tesla and his ideas of the ether were much closer to the truth.
I don't have time to go through the 1000's of videos and studies but here's a couple videos that are interesting.

a reply to: booyakasha some math is required for physics but Physics and Mathematics are two entirely different things I prefer physics to maths to find the reality of the universe

a reply to: booyakasha

You do realize electric universe has been disproved with observations of our own sun. Biggest problem with EU is it tries to claim many aspects of plasma physics but ultimately provides no source for the energy.

EU cannot explain neutrinos being generated by the sun. However plasma physics can and does. Also the suns spectrum if the sun was powered by electricity discontinuous spectrum of bright lines. Yet we found the opposite it is continuous and shows we are dealing with a fusion reaction. Finally we have probes that indeed measure currents around our sun. For the EU to be correct we would need a positive and negative current flowing into the sun. Well it doesnt exist what we have shown is that with amazing uniformity solar wind expands out in all directions. Which again brings up another issue electric universe.

I will also add the earths or for that matter the suns hill sphere cannot be explained by EU. These are gravitational anomalies caused by bodies interacting with other bodies. In the EU it would be impossible for them to exist and yet they do.

a reply to: andy06shake

No. Light curves.

No such thing as a spiral galaxy. Its just that the light spirals,as all waves do, including antigravity waves. Looking into space is like looking down the length of a coil spring.