Stumbling Into A Bronze Age Sword Fight

a reply to: Rekrul

I believe that they found a very thin layer of Chromium on the outside but still do not know how the Chinese managed it as to do similar we would have to use electroplating but it is possible they had some form of chemical solution and dipped it, ancient Chinese alchemists had thousand's of years to develop there skill's.
That and I suspect the conditions in the tomb were also conducive to the swords survival.

a reply to: Kester

There was an Elizabethan sword fighting manual that contained instructions for sword fighting that showed that prior to the Gun's taking over entirely at one time the martial art's in the west may have equaled those of Asia, the Roman's themselves apparently had martial styles as well.

Also if you ever look up the legend's of the Red Branch Knight's from Eira these ancient celtic warrior's sound like Ninja super men, able to run through a forest without breaking a twig and jump more than there own height (acrobatics) and that was just there initiation while being pursued before they really started training.

a reply to: Rekrul

I wouldn't want to be too precise but it's on this footpath. www.nationaltrail.co.uk...

An area with enormous strategic importance when major travel was best done with boats. Huge earthworks from the distant past so enormous that some people think they're natural.

a reply to: LABTECH767

There's a saying 'hard work never killed anyone but it made them into some very peculiar shapes'.

"These archers had specialist techniques for making and using very powerful longbows. Some bows required a lifetime of training and immense strength as the archers had to pull weights up to 200lbs (about 90kg)."
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"So we are analysing the lower arm bones as those are the ones that are likely to show a difference," he said.

"In fact, on one of the skeletons we have looked at, the surface area of the joint between the lower arm and elbow is 48% larger than on the joint on the other arm."

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Most weapons are just more combat efficient versions of normal everyday items so a sword is just a long knife and people would of been using them every day for normal tasks so chopping wood with an axe or swinging a sword uses a lot of the same muscles and people would of all had some combat experience even if its just to scare away wolves or go up against a big boar.

Also remember theres no TV/internet etc so practicing basic combat would of been a daily thing seen and kids under supervision learning the art from a yound age.

Two big males going 1v1 probably would of been leaders fighting it out given the cost of such weapons and your status did depend on your ability to defend yourself from attackers especially if you sat on some very nice land with good resources.

originally posted by: Kester
a reply to: Rekrul

I don't want to identify the place because I live there at the moment. The place has massive history, including the more recent Romans.

Womp womp. Spin another tale dude. You can give a location without giving your address. I could easily say I lived in Staten Island, NY and you wouldn't know where I was.

Don't take advantage of people with bullsnip stories. Grow up.

a reply to: Kester

That land is lush in history. I'd go back there and kick around the dirt, and look for things. If you're in England you'll get a little bit of money for turning artifacts in. Just make sure you have permission if it's on owned grounds

It’s an incredibly beautiful part of our country, history everywhere. I’m always thinking about those days after the English Civil War in Edgehill near me... the apparitions were seen for so long. The field is now an underground MOD weapon storage facility, I love the eerie resonance of that.

a reply to: Kester

After looking into this I'm kind of jealous that you can walk around such awesome trails and historical sights in the area.

a reply to: Rekrul

Looks like an incredible place to metal detect.

He also claims he had a werewolf harass him during a camping trip with his shape shifting friend

So , take it for what you will

a reply to: Kester

The finest surviving examples of Long Bow's were found on the wreck of the 'Mary Rose' Henry the eighth's disastrous flag ship, If I recall from memory they were not certain that a human being could pull them far enough but with the long arrow's they also found it was estimated that they could fire nearly a mile in fine weather.

However my personal favorite is the Mongolian Compound bow, one of the Khaan's grand nephew's was said to have fired and hit a target while riding on horseback and there is a stone somewhere that memorializes it.
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The English Long Bow was a composite of different wood's, usually Yew and Ash and it's one disadvantage was it's huge size but with a bodkin arrow head it could still pierce even the thickest armor until the age of Gun's displaced it from the battlefield, the most deadly hand weapon in the British Armor was the pike Staff though rather than the sword.

As for the Mongolian Compound Bow that was a whole different beast.

It has changed little in it's three thousand years of existence and remain's even today an equal even to most high tech material compound bow's.

IF the story about Ghengis nephew is true then we can say for certain that these ancient archers were probably actually far better than the sports men of today.

The current world record is in the region about just short of 3 quarters of a kilometer BUT we know from those tests carried out on exact replica's of the Tudor Long bow's found on the Mary Rose that the English Long bow could far exceed that distance.


Maxatoria..

Good point, a prime example of a multi purpose knife like that which just about every Saxon and every Viking carried was called the Seax, it was usually a one edged long knife a bit like the ancestor (indirect) of the modern Machete.

They were general purpose knives but ranged from pocket sized up to three foot swords but keeping the same basic all purpose cutting, chopping and slicing one edged design (Arguably Two Edged Seax which have also be found were not true Seax but really proper swords or weapon's instead of general purpose tools).
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a reply to: SailorJerry

Some psychic's/People are more sensitive than others and far less anchored in the mundane world, remember that Animism is a whole branch of Shamanism that is still practiced to this day with people claiming to have animal guides and spirit totem's SO if a psychic pick's up on the belief and emanations of someone that REALLY believes and projects the idea that there spirit is a wolf spirit and they see into other psychic realm's does that make them crazy or JUST more open to other realm's - and does it make any difference to make a distinction between them.

Either way is it right to belittle, humiliate or mock someone because they call the world a sphere while you call it flat?.

As someone whom has experienced paranormal activity believe me when I say that it not my right or yours to judge another person's experience and it is better to take the Charles Forte view of reality in such cases.

Only when another person's reality poses a threat to themselves or to others is that a time to pass a judgement, you know parapsychology answers a lot more than weirdo freud ever could (I mean that guy had some pretty serious incestuous fantasy issues and decided every one else in the world shared them so projected his own mental defects onto his analysis of the entire human race - what a pompous crazy guy but he is the foundation most atheistic disbelievers use to dismiss other's experiences now is he not?).

I am just wanting you to take a step back and think before you judge other's so swiftly, what if people really do see these thing's, ever hear about the historical cases of werewolf's that were indeed probably just people that believed they were werewolves but then went on to commit horrible crimes, even if they were not an actual polymorphic shape shifting entity then they were in a state of mind so twisted that the difference is minimal since to themselves they really were wolves).
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It bares a lot of similarity to the fear of Vampires, they used to dig up and dismember the dead and even drive stakes through there hearts for fear that they would rise and feed upon the living, the modern version is the Psychic vampire both living people that seem to absorb the vitality of those around them AND the vile vortex entity's' that thrive on negativity and latch onto family's causing strife, depression, anxiety, argument's and worse, you may not believe they exist but there are many that DO believe in them - in such an argument do they or don't they, we are spiritual being's not machines and if our ancestors had been atheists society and civilization would never have arisen indeed we would be living in caves and eating other people thinking that all meat was the same - but we do believe in the spirit - and by the way Science has another name for it, HIGHER DIMENSION's - think about it like this Psychic mediums of the 1800's whom finally came out of the woodwork as there persecution waned spoke of vibrations higher and lower, other realm's etc, cross reference there views and belief's with modern dimensional theory and you may come away with quite a different mindset I Challenge you to do just this.