Los Alamos National Laboratory - Highly Contagious and More Infectious Than Initially Estimated

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: LookingAtMars

Yes. I seriously doubt the media or government would lie about this.

You asked.

Why would they lie?
Come up with a logical reason why they would lie.
Who benefits? No one.

Serious question, partisanship aside, asking because my brain is currently running around my cranium going "nope, nope, nope. nope" when I attempt to resolve the answer on my own. How does anyone spend as much time on Abovetopsecret arguing politics as you do ask the question "Why would the media or government lie?"

The most logical answer to your question, though an answer you will no doubt reject because it represents a Pandora's Box that can never be personally closed again once YOU open it for yourself, is to truthfully say "They lie because that's what the government does, and the media is controlled by them, or rather the government and media are controlled by the same powers, so same, it's what the media does."

Assuming you reject those truths, here's something a bit more pragmatic and less destructive of that little bubble of false security found in faith and belief of highly broken human created institutions...
The government would lie about this because time is by far and away the single most valuable resource on this planet. Greater than gold, greater than money, greater than stocks, greater than votes, greater than sex, greater than food... time. As a billionaire on his deathbed how much he'd pay for just one more healthy day on this planet... time With any disaster, pandemic, or catastrophe that can be seen coming our way the government's first response has always been and will always be to downplay it. A calm society is a pliable society. While society remains calm, the government can plan and prepare. Now, I'd be a damn fool to suggest that those plans and preparations are to we the little people's benefit, because they rarely are. The government saw the Great Recession coming, as did the media... right up to the point where it could be held back no more, both regurgitated the "the economy is fundamentally strong!" line of BS. Why? Well, how many millionaires and billionaires in the stock market aren't worth multiple more now, 12 years later? How many retirement portfolios held by the little guys put those little folks in better shape than they were in beforehand? Time... the government gave the "important" people time to shuffle their investments, apply safety nets to their own finances, and prepare for the institutions too big to quietly save so they would be publicly saved in plain view.

So you pragmatic answer is, the government gains time by lying. The media, well it just does what it is told to do. The incestuous relationship between the government and the megacorporations that own 90% of the allegedly 'free" media in the US means that media doesn't report or say anything that hasn't been blessed by the political machine. I'm not talking partisan squabbles and BS here, either, I'm talking about a machine much more powerful than that noise. The machine that makes the partisans fight for it's favor is the machine that rules all and that machine will tell you it is raining when the sky is sunny and God help you if you contradict what the machine says because enough sheep have fallen under the machine's spell that you will find yourself attacked from all sides. Sheep have powerful little hooves, you know?

a reply to: tanstaafl

I researched how certain colloidal minerals were made commercially. They also get them from specific mineral salt deposits but those are the colloidal mineral drinks usually, most of the colloidal silver and gold are made using a couple of processes one of which I mentioned.

Maybe you just want to buy expensive supplements, I won't take anything unless I kind of understand how it is produced. I only spent maybe one full day and red about a fifty articles to figure out how colloidal minerals and chealated minerals are made.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

To be fair this virus doesn't discriminate and unless those chosen few already have a vaccine,they are just as timeless as us.
i agree with your viewpoint however i don't see how it applies to this matter,other than as a response to a blanket statement to trust the government.
in which case,if i could add my thoughts

Unless social sites like this are shut down,and good people remain in the shadows,The lies will unfold in due time,and i would expect so too will the repercussions

We are all homologous in our biology, similarities that cannot yet be removed.

I think you would agree,that government's have every interest in placating the population IF they knew there was no way to contain this,which i suspect
That the addition of chaos and panic,market failure for all would only add insult to injury and compound the situation

originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath
Remember, around 1-2% lethal, and it is likely the weakest/older/already ill people. It's a big number if it makes it around the ball: yes! Extinction or zombie apocalypse: nay!

1-2%?

ya that's not a real number. They lied about SARS and they are lying about this. I have friends with very close family in China and there is false information being put out. Truth is, over half of Wuhan is infected with hundreds of thousands dead. did you know that if someone died of the virus outside of the hospital that china doesn't count it? they just dispose the body, no record. These hospitals they built to house 100k people each and people are being turned down after waiting HOURS even DAYS in line to be seen or treated. With all this extra room, how are they being turned down if the official count is far far far less than the amount they claim they can house, shouldn't they have room?

originally posted by: LoveSolMoonDeath
I was a police officer when the sras hit and guess what...we were issued masks then too. Chill a bit friend we will get through

Sound advice

I was a deputy when the Measels was a big concern back in the late 80s and every body was worried then too

But it came to pass, just like this thing will. Some folks will get it, some will even die. But in the end, there are plenty of things out there most likely to kill us

More than anything just good handwashing, no face touching and keeping your distance from others as much as possible is the best prevention. We dont need masks and glasses and all that goofy stuff just yet. And people need to prepare themselves mentally for seeing cases in their neighborhoods communities along with having at least some supply of food/water

Heck, they say many cases are very mild so it is likely for every person diagnosed (ie: contact with medical staff who then do a test to confirm it) there could be 2, 3, 4 or more who have it, think its the flu/a cold and recover without complications. Most are recovering without complication

a reply to: jidnum
I do hope the numbers are close to reality and since there are cases outside China we will soon find out. But as I see it going down, I think we're ok.

Be well and best wish for your friends relatives