Are UFOs Demonic In Nature and Setting The Stage For A Global Deception?

Aliens could be demonic activity or fallen angels from other planets and other dimensions at the same time.....

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: Ironclad1964

Maybe it’s not a difficult task to hop in and out of dimensions, for them.
If you had the ability, you’d do it too. Then the question begs, why do they choose to screw with us? Maybe they just have a sick sense of humor.

Physically if you are are a flighty 5th dimensional filmy energy being you would be crushed by heavy matter 3D density. Jesus was stepped down from a 9D (fully dimensional being) into 3D material form. This took 200 human Time Space Illusion years to accomplish because the integration of that energy form to fit *and spark animation in a lump of flesh without burning it up* in 3D physicality was difficult. Imagine putting a radioactive isotope into a single human cell. Poof.

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: shawmanfromny

When Earth was created, all the Angel's cheered" All Angel's, both fallen and non rebellious are aliens.
So, yes.

Great critical thinking visitedbythem. You neglected to mention WE ARE THEM.

Some have a mixture of human and Angel. Blue bloods, royalty. But its pretty watered down by now

a reply to: Archivalist

Religious context should really be absent from this board, since there is a board specifically for that.

Adding "UFO" to the mix, to get the thread wedged in here, is offensive.

There are those of us, that believe most "astounding" UFO sightings are military testing, and these types of far reaching religious connotation accusations with little support evidence are as Kevin O'Leary would say, a "Nothing Burger".

First of all, the forum is titled, "Aliens & UFO's", so no one is "wedging" anything in anywhere.

Secondly, you have absolutely no idea if religion should be absent from this topic, as you don't have any more of a clue than anyone else what these aliens and UFOs really are or where they come from.

Third, if you believe that most UFO sightings are military testings, why aren't you and all of your "real" UFO buddies posting in the "Military Projects" or "Aircraft Projects" conspiracy forums? It works both ways. Until you can prove anything (which we all know you can't), you're only expressing your opinion against the opinions of others.

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: visitedbythem
a reply to: shawmanfromny

When Earth was created, all the Angel's cheered" All Angel's, both fallen and non rebellious are aliens.
So, yes.

Great critical thinking visitedbythem. You neglected to mention WE ARE THEM.

Some have a mixture of human and Angel. Blue bloods, royalty. But its pretty watered down by now

This is a discussion worth having. I would love to get to the bottom of the Lizard/Annunaki blue blood aristocracy. A negative blood type is my history. Basque/Scottish/Maya.

'demons ' are a human construct, 'aliens ' are a human construct. Good vs evil is a human construct. At the core, everything is energy, frequency, vibration ( or consciousness) and consciousness is quantum (interdimensional)

The inter dimensional hypothesis is interesting, it's not all conjecture.
There is science behind part of it, there are multiple additional dimensions that we cannot process correctly, simply because we are a product of a 3 dimensional existence.

a reply to: shawmanfromny

Why does coming from another dimension make you a demon ? are we demons to the visitors then ?


as cherokeetroy has said , we are all one system of energy, frequency , vibration , if god created the universe that means he created the multiple dimensions and all the demons that inhabit them

so technically they are also a part of god , so why do they get the demon attribute

if its all god

Other-dimensional? Maybe - could be how you travel such great distances in short time. Short-cutting through dimensions. Why do they need to toss demons in there? What have aliens done that makes them so evil? If so, humans are also demons. We experiment with, torture and kill what we consider lesser beings. We impact the entire planet with technology made for our convenience.

With so little known about alien technology.. aliens.. and even dimensions, that is a whole lot of guesswork and speculation to come up with that ridiculous claim.

They are most definitely tied to Earth. Well put. Whether it's inhabitants from Earth's ancient history or other dimensional Earthlings (angels/demons to us) something is up there using technology we don't have and can't comprehend. I find it ludicrous to believe they traveled millions of light years through empty space to not at least visit with us, much less conquer and rule us. The better our technology gets the better we're able to verify there's nothing out there in outer space.

originally posted by: jjkenobi
They are most definitely tied to Earth. Well put. Whether it's inhabitants from Earth's ancient history or other dimensional Earthlings (angels/demons to us) something is up there using technology we don't have and can't comprehend. I find it ludicrous to believe they traveled millions of light years through empty space to not at least visit with us, much less conquer and rule us. The better our technology gets the better we're able to verify there's nothing out there in outer space.

Pfft, please.. our technology is infantile at best. We don't even know what to look for. Also - millions of light years? There are 2000 stars that are 50 light years from our planet, and up to 15% of those could have planets in the habitable zone. And even then, quantum, dimensional or other things we probably don't even realize exist, might make travel to our planet a weekend jaunt, for all we know.

There absolutely is life on other planets, common sense says so. Would they bother coming here? Maybe, as scientists perhaps, or maybe just to keep an eye on a planet starting to venture outside of our own little batch of space.

a reply to: sapien82
Yes, everything stems from one source. In this realm of duality, source was fractured into gradients of energy that we describe as dark and light. This split creates a balance between magnetic forces that provides equilibrium and keeps us stabilized (floating) within this containment system (our universe)

My guess is that as humanoids evolved into human consciousness, they became aware of this split in energy (as the Bible explains, Adam and Eve ate from the Tree of Life and learned about good and evil)

Early humans now having self awareness, became consciously aware of the contrast between creation vs destruction, happy vs sad, fear vs confidence, life vs death, etc...

Now, having developed a thought process, language and imagination, they possessed the tools to explore and examine the spectrum of emotions. Newly creative humans started telling stories to explain duality (good vs evil). They told hundreds maybe thousands of stories. The stories evolved into systems of governance including religion. Ironically, the very systems we engineered for the purpose of providing us with security, safety, peace and stability, degraded into systems of corruption and destruction. We became prisoners within our own matrix (trapped within our own containment systems). This has prevented us from evolving to the next level of consciousness. We even have stories to explain that

Since all stories are a human devination, as humans alive on the planet, today, we are the present heirs of these legacies which are stored in our DNA. As sovereign, creator beings, we each possess the free will to decide which stories (if any) we want to believe. As conscious creators of our own realities, what we imagine is what we manifest. What we choose to accept as 'real ' or 'truth ' becomes 'activated' within our DNA/neural networks and is interwoven into our perception of this dream reality

a reply to: shawmanfromny

YES, and everyone will just continue thinking that they are too smart for all that made up stuff.

When we talk about UFO's ET's or Aliens We are really talking about a wide variety of issues that touches just about every aspect of life, any one of which are inextricably linked to a number of other issue's. Once you have concluded that their is enough evidence, even to commit to further research you are quickly faced with implications of these other issues. If you accept that UFO's are real because the pilots that say they saw something has been later confirmed by Radar returns. This may lead you to conclude that These things are a Real Phenomena because radar doesn't return from hallucinations or tricks of light, but beyond that i don't know what they are.
However most of us who see the vastness of the issue understand that their is a mountain of hard physical evidence and that what evidence hasn't been seized, stolen, or suppressed is discredited in amazing ways like paying off a university to botch dna tests and lie about the results. The point is Most of us are after the truth and approach the issue from a logical and scientific perspective. And though we all agree that these beings have spiritual aspect to them they are not demons or angels and and have a physical existence. They may be self serving to our determent but they are not evil or demonic in the christian sense of the word. and frankly the dogmatic concepts of a specific religion most would agree are out of place here

originally posted by: shawmanfromny
I watched a 1 hour video podcast that discusses the possibility that the UFO phenomenon is demonic in nature. The host and his guest believe that UFOs are coming from another dimension and are controlled by demonic entities, who are in the process of setting the stage for a global deception.

Obviously, this theory is an attempt to explain the UFO phenomenon from a Christian perspective. However, there are many ufologists, including respected researcher Jacques Vallée, who also believe that these craft are coming from other dimensions.

“We are dealing with a yet unrecognized level of consciousness, independent of man but closely linked to the earth…. I do not believe anymore that UFOs are simply the spacecraft of some race of extraterrestrial visitors. This notion is too simplistic to explain their appearance, the frequency of their manifestations through recorded history, and the structure of the information exchanged with them during contact.” – Jacques Vallee

The interdimensional hypothesis (IDH or IH), is an idea advanced by Ufologists such as Jacques Vallée that says unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and related events involve visitations from other "realities" or "dimensions" that coexist separately alongside our own.

There are also people, like D.W. Pasulka — professor and chair of the department of philosophy and religion at the University of North Carolina Wilmington, who believe that the belief in UFOs is becoming more cult-like, with religious overtones.

Pasulka documents the end of a long cultural shift regarding UFOs, as it moves from a marginal fringe to a major belief system.

...according to Pasulka, UFO beliefs display other classic indicators of religion: sacred sites, sacred revelations, and testimony by credible witnesses to miraculous events.

Pasulka travels to an unnamed site in New Mexico. Accompanying her are Tyler and Pasulka’s own colleague “James,” an astrophysicist at a prestigious university, and not only a UFO believer, but a repeat contactee. (He finds the phenomenon unwelcome, and describes it as something that in earlier times would be called “demonic.”)

The sites in New Mexico function as the sacred sites of a new religion… They are the places of a hierophany, where non-human beings descended to earth

Erich von Dänikan’s Chariot of The Gods gave rise to the cheerfully mendacious Ancient Aliens, which re-interprets almost every major ancient civilization’s religious and cultural legacy as the work of visiting extraterrestrials.

Pasulka’s book makes the argument that the religion of the UFO is also the religion of technology, and it is a convincing one.

theoutline.com...

Pasulka's term "the religion of technology," is also implied in the video podcast, which can be watched here. It's mentioned in the video that these demonic entities are preparing our world for a "technological savior."

Below are some quotes and screen shots from this 1 hour video, since many of you might not have time to watch it this weekend. Even though I'm skeptical on the concept of an "antichrist," or the theory that ufology is slowly shifting into "demonology," I still believe that it's plausible that these craft are somehow connected to other dimensions.

From the 1 hour podcast:

"These experts, who are not Christians, are now saying and have been saying for a while...that this is not extraterrestrial, these are entities coming from another dimension and so, they are now saying there are cult aspects of this. They are openly admitting this is demonology."

"They've (the US government) have known about this for years...the government does not recognize spiritual things, so, how would they explain them? Well, if they can't explain them, better to just shut up about them and deny them. So, they don't know what they're dealing with."

"And here's the real exciting thing...they (MUFON) used to believe in the extraterrestrial hypothesis...we know that can't happen, you can't travel faster than the speed of light...now, guess what? They've moved to the interdimensional hypothesis."

Shorter version (21 minute) of this video podcast that I found on YouTube:

They are likely from another dimension or other worlds or universes. All of these are possible simultaneously. The "ET=demons" is simply a rehash of Christianity's fear-based efforts to explain poorly understood phenomenon as being "from the devil". Lot's of Christian charlatains are profiting off of this right now. That's all it is -- fear. Yes, there are negative, hostile entities in the universe. That doesn't mean they're demons trying to trick us into giving up our belief in a god or Jesus. If they wanted to do that, they'd make themselves more attractive, stick around for a while, talk to us in terms we can understand, etc. In a nutshell, they'd try to sell us on the idea of giving up Jesus and replacing that belief with a belief in them and their power. "Look at us. We're here. God is never here. And we're beautiful." That doesn't happen either. Nothing about the ET=demons theory makes any logical sense.

originally posted by: Visiting ESB
They are likely from another dimension or other worlds or universes. All of these are possible simultaneously. The "ET=demons" is simply a rehash of Christianity's fear-based efforts to explain poorly understood phenomenon as being "from the devil". Lot's of Christian charlatains are profiting off of this right now. That's all it is -- fear. Yes, there are negative, hostile entities in the universe. That doesn't mean they're demons trying to trick us into giving up our belief in a god or Jesus. If they wanted to do that, they'd make themselves more attractive, stick around for a while, talk to us in terms we can understand, etc. In a nutshell, they'd try to sell us on the idea of giving up Jesus and replacing that belief with a belief in them and their power. "Look at us. We're here. God is never here. And we're beautiful." That doesn't happen either. Nothing about the ET=demons theory makes any logical sense.

You would have greater understanding if you had this perspective; God created everything (demons/negatives) to experience Itself. All is allowed, even the most outlandish soap opera scenarios: the Catholic Church conveniently labeling ET's as demons in the 1500's. Fear based dogmatic worship (shameful). There is the other category of Demon that is ancient and feeds on human trauma; trapping those souls. Some are attached to Earth itself; making the land uninhabitable.

I believe a lot of people have believed that over the years and caused the truth to be suppressed as a result

The idea that this massive universe exists over such a vast space of time simply for our species is impossible

There is a 0% chance we are alone. And if by some impossible chance that were true, it would prove something along the lines of simulated reality with space that isn't space but rather an unreal background image

If their goal is deception they are doing a bad job of it but one need not look to aliens, plenty of that going on from governments and individuals alike

I hate to say this but there's more evidence for aliens than any world religion

Frankly, if we're not supposed to be deceived even a shred of non-human-touched evidence would do wonders

originally posted by: JBurns
The idea that this massive universe exists over such a vast space of time simply for our species is impossible

No. This massive universe exists for one purpose ONLY; that Origin/Absolute can experience/express Itself within the most perfect biologic vessel ever created (human form).

JBurns There is a 0% chance we are alone. And if by some impossible chance that were true, it would prove something along the lines of simulated reality with space that isn't space but rather an unreal background image If their goal is deception they are doing a bad job of it but one need not look to aliens, plenty of that going on from governments and individuals alike

Less than zero chance we are alone. This is a dense matter TSI planet and not a simulated matrix, the evidence of deliberate creative intention is EVERYWHERE. The ecosystems were inserted intact. Civilizations (including the buildings) were overlaid upon those systems intact. Once those civilizations achieved an objective they left on mass intact abandoning the structures. For the most part these were just carnival ride civilizations that were entertaining (Rome THE BEST).

My late father, who died in 2011, said for 40 years that when the Rapture happens, Satan will try to cover it up by trying to get people to believe they weren't raptured - they were abducted by aliens. Nothing to see here will be the lie. Hence the growing awareness of UFOs today - it's getting very near the end. (To quote The Beatles.)