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The First Beast Uncovered???

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posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 02:23 PM
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Israel wants full EU membership. Very strange. God's protected nation part of the NWO. Jews will adopt a new religion. Very strange. Who is setting this upj? Current EU president Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi. Could this man be the First Beast as stated in Revelations??? Any comments or questions please reply.



Nightwalker



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 02:37 PM
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After Magog and Gog war against Israel- Ezeikel 38, the Antichrist will sign a peace treaty with Israel for seven years. Some believe the AC will arise from Europe.

Revalation 17:7,9


also...
"...Coins issued by the Roman govt. during the first century caried the motto "the city on seven hills" as the well-known designation of the capital of the Roman Empire. Virtually eevery one of the classical Roman writers referred to Rome as "the city of seven hills." Virgil, Horace, and Ovid included..."



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 02:50 PM
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This is quite scary, on another religious point.

Mark of the beast is

The right hand and the forehead, what are you doing on your computer? Using your right hand to control the mouse and the forehead is pointing at the screen.'

Also don't forget the bible mentions the "spider web" as well, kinda like the internet in a sense.


I'm personally not much of believer as I was, but look at the current European situation, if an A.C. was going to come to be, what a great place to for it to happen, all the chaos and all.



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 02:51 PM
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I hate to be nitpicky, but why on earth does Isreal think it's eligible for EU membership anyway? last time I checked, Isreal wasn't actually located in Europe to begin with.



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by Shining Wizard
This is quite scary, on another religious point.

Mark of the beast is

The right hand and the forehead, what are you doing on your computer? Using your right hand to control the mouse and the forehead is pointing at the screen.'

Also don't forget the bible mentions the "spider web" as well, kinda like the internet in a sense.


I'm personally not much of believer as I was, but look at the current European situation, if an A.C. was going to come to be, what a great place to for it to happen, all the chaos and all.


very interesting indeed

You gave me pause with the computer statement.
The technology is coming that will allow the magnetic field given off by your monitor to be manipulated into shapes. In the Tribulation, people will worship the image of the AC all the time, every day. What better way to have something in front of people all the time??
Television, computers, big screens in public etc.....



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 03:01 PM
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Computers are doing more and more everyday. You use them to buy things, you use them to communicate, read, entertainment, work, play, and to study. He WHO controls the TECHNOLOGY will someday control you.



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 03:06 PM
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well...the whole computer statement freaked me out...It could very well be part of it, but it also says that we wont be able to function in our lives without this mark. So far they're not an absolute necessity in every field.



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 03:07 PM
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The deception will be so deep, people will think nothing is out of place---HAARP (?) mind control will be of a spiritual nature though. The deception will utilize technology certainly, but the impetus will be purely spiritual.



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 03:12 PM
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Surely this adds your last statement. Religious and spirituality may have been the "reason" for the crusades, but the real reason for the actions was the Pope and other religious leaders desire for the wealth and art of the Middle Eastern people.


The point is

Watch out for the Catholic Church as I believe they are gearing up to send us on another crusade again the very same people, behind the scenes of course.

Could it just be that the very man that is the symbol of the Catholic's religion could be the............I can't even say it, but think about it.



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 03:14 PM
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how do you figure that?



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 03:15 PM
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Has the Pope not been a key motivator for Isreal's latest actions? has he not been involved in this whole crisis from day one? Has he not played both sides? And what of his own crumbling empire? he barely shows interest.


Just an opinion



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by Shining Wizard
Watch out for the Catholic Church as I believe they are gearing up to send us on another crusade again the very same people, behind the scenes of course.


Nice comedy



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 03:18 PM
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I was in the catholic church as a young man and the more I see, the scarier this monstrosity of religion seems.

The papacy is probably going to become the second beast of Revalation-the Great Harlot may be Rome/Vatican.



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 03:20 PM
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I see what you're trying to say, but I just dont see it...get it?

I dont want to turn this into ANOTHER Israel thread...but Israel does what Israels wants any day of the week. So I dont think the Pope is a key motivator for that. What crisis are we talking about ? War in Iraq...the morality problem, or lack thereof? The signs of him not showing interest could simply be due to his weakened condition.

I'm not arguing with you here and I thought that was brilliant observation, but I just dont see it, anyone else?



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 03:20 PM
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Of the highest regard, the members seldom know they are being mislead. Oh by the way, pass the collection plate.


Once again, just and opinion, please take it that way.

I will explain my theory tomorrow, I am getting ready to leave work today and it could take a while.



[Edited on 10-7-2003 by Shining Wizard]



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 03:25 PM
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You know, actually most Jews in Israel are not orthodox believers. I think a large number do not even believe...we should not be surprised they are seeking ties with a body that surely has little interest in the well being of Israel.



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 04:06 PM
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They already control you, you just don't realize it.



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 04:09 PM
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Yep, well said Tigeris......and the "truth" is out there and all you have to do is find Agent Mulder to get at it.


regards
seekerof

[Edited on 10-7-2003 by Seekerof]



posted on Jul, 10 2003 @ 04:10 PM
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Sorry first beast is Ozzy Osbourne.
Second Rob Zombie.
Third Marilyn Manson
4th- hehehe.



posted on Jul, 30 2003 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by Seekerof
Yep, well said Tigeris......and the "truth" is out there and all you have to do is find Agent Mulder to get at it.


regards
seekerof

[Edited on 10-7-2003 by Seekerof]


Since I'm not American, I don't understand what you mean with "find Agent Mulder to get at it" ?

I'll be Agent Mulder my self, I get at it in my own ways. That's more accurate then hear it from someone else




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