Satan is not an angel says Revelation 13.

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...And he Shall Manifest Himself on Earth as a Super Intelligent Machine .........Saith the LORD ..............

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: NorthOfStuff


...And he Shall Manifest Himself on Earth as a Super Intelligent Machine .........Saith the LORD ..............

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Satan is not an angel

You are correct.
Satan lost his "Archangel" status when he was cast out of Heaven , along with the rest of the planned usurpers.

We are never given "satan's" real name in the bible. Its NOT Lucifer.. and God even took his name. Lucifer is only used once in the Old Testament and isnt even Hebrew.. its Latin. When the OT was translated the term Lucifer was used.. meaning light bringer or bright as the morning star or shining brightly or brightest shining. The Hebrew for Light bringer or morning star is "heylel". ( I forgot the scripture cause.. well.. scripture memorization isnt my bag) Ezekiel 28:15 says, “You were perfect in all your ways from the day you were created until iniquity was found in you.” Speaking of Satan/Lucifer being an angel created in perfection... before man. Or if you believe in or understand loopy time.. existed concurrently to man.

Why Lucifer and bright as the morning star? Its meaning he was closest or favorite of God and he shone with the Shekinah glory .. a reflection of the divinity. Only a reflection, and not divinity himself... so this is where the whole rebellion and fall came in. He hates humans... they not only can reflect God but will be perfected beings if elect and will be in His presence.. where an angel, once fallen.. can never be in His presence again. He will never shine. He will be darkness and cast out from everything. Basically he's pissed cause humans got a get out of jail and be redeemed free card.. and he got cast out.. eternally. Lucifer isnt anti God.. befcause there is no counter to God. He is anti Jesus, Christianity and very very anti human. He is an antiCHRIST. Not an antiCREATOR/triune 3 beings in one/architect of the heavens.


Dont know if he is still on here, but there is a Scholar who happens to be a real deal Luciferian ( not satanist) and can give a rabbi a run for his money on history and literal translation.

Ezekiel says that the tempter in the garden of eden, aka the serpent, was originally a high ranking cherub. Angels are common messengers of the spirit realm but cherubs and seraphs are both high ranking powerful spirit creatures.

Take a gander at Ezekiel 28:12-15

By the way, all cherubs are associated with physical stars as if each one is assigned a particular star.

a reply to: Claymation213

The problem is you are playing with anthropomorphized sky gods and books written by Man with all his fear and fallibility at play.

It might be time to get that into one's head.

Just a thought.

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Satan is Saturn thats the Kemetic Set (enemy of horus)

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When the OT was translated the term Lucifer was used.. meaning light bringer or bright as the morning star

The meaning of this has been hidden there has historically only ever been one morning star and thats Sirius.

a reply to: Gothmog

Angels are angels and Satan was saturn!


This is all in part about the stars and planets.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
Satan means adversary, and is not a being but an idea or attitude. Historically Satan has been used as an adjective describing people or philosophies that challenge the status quo. "Satanic" "Unholy" "Devilry" etc, all just different labels for the same reaction to unorthodox practices.

Its a planet. Saturn (set) the enemy of horus (the sun god)

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: Xtrozero

So isn't 666 the number of man and what we are made of as in Carbon 666.

No.

Carbon's number is just plain 6. en.wikipedia.org...

All the yes

Carbon has 6 protons, 6 neutrons and 6 elections.

Its what we have been locked into. Read the garden of eden. Lovely mthos. We had originally bodies of light. That because of the fall were wrapped in the skins of animals

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Revelations, huh? That book has a very interesting history and it's not really what a lot of people think it is.

What do you think it is?

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Gothmog

Angels are angels and Satan was saturn!


This is all in part about the stars and planets.

Really ?
At least he wasn't Uranus...

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What about Hydrogen, Helium, and Oxygen which are far more abundant that Carbon in our universe.

The human body is made up of a long list of ingredients, with the most abundant being oxygen (65% by mass), carbon (18%), hydrogen (10%), nitrogen (3%), calcium (1.4%) and phosphorus (1.1%).

We did not fall purplemer, we rose up, evolved, adapted and overcame.

Seems to me God is the one who fell and/or hides in bushes.

a reply to: Claymation213

Once again, Satan isn't the beast, he is the dragon in Revelation 13 who drives the beast.

Secondly, yes, angels do have free will. If you knew the BIble, you would understand that too. That's why we have "fallen angels".

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Aslan from The Chronicles of Narnia series, there's another one, a beast with ""freewill"" that is.

Plus there a better read and a hell of a lot less hypocritical than the Bible, both testaments.

Then again, the same could be said for the likes of "Mein Kampf", another book written by crazy bastards with an agenda at play.

You are garbage at riddles.

Time for ponderance is passed. Its time to take a choice.

Satan is a black hole. And when you live inside him, he looks like a sun. His fundamental power is Gravity. He is a fallen angel (collapsed star)

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If Satan is a singularity does that mean Gods a Supernova?

From inside a black hole, you would not be able to see much as once past the event horizon, you could see no light from the outside Universe.

Gravity is a natural phenomenon by which all things with mass or energy, including planets, stars, galaxies, and even light, are brought toward one another.

Satan is nothing more than an anthropomorphization of Mans's greatest fears and fallibility at play whereas physics, mathematics, and celestial mechanics are actual things. LoL

Satan is a Cherubim. A Cherubim is an angel of higher rank and power, second only to the Seraphim. Angels have the ability to transform themselves into fully functional human beings. As human beings, angels can procreate with women to produce children. These children are called the Nephillims - a race of human beings with super powers and intelligence that came from the angels.

Satan, the serpent in the garden of Eden, transformed himself into a human being. He seduced Eve and had sex with her. Eve got pregnant which gave birth to Cain. You can check Adam's bloodline. You will never find Cain's name.

Since you will never read about Cain's death, I think he is the beast of Revelation.

Satan (Father / Spirit) --> Cain (Son / Hybrid / demigod - the 1st beast, the coming false Messiah) --> the false prophet (the 2nd beast - Vacarius Fillei Dei possessing the power of Cain through Satan).

Cain will sit on the throne of the 3rd temple of Jerusalem as King of the Jews and as the false son of god.

Sorry if this is OT. lol

a reply to: Claymation213

How can an angel turn on God? An angel can't, because an angel is not a man. A man has free will, not an angel. Now add that stuff up. Satan was never an angel to begin with. Yep, a man that can disguise himself as an angel of light.

You are not understanding creation. At the very first creation there was no heaven or earth. God brought His image forth from within Himself and called this image His Word. The image was an entity of unknown substance which we call spiritual today and from the Word came all creation of this first creation. God still remained the central substance of Spirit and Word just as He does today.

In this first creation the Word created a void with boundaries and placed His creation in this void that He created. Little is known of this first creation except that the Word gave life to this first creation and the free will to obey or disobey the rules of this first creation. This assortment of life is very vague to us in this first creation except the lives of various creatures called angelic. We are taught that this first creation is of a substance of eternal life and not of the second creation.

The Word then created another void with boundaries [universe] and then filled His void with inanimate forms which He then made alive. This is called the second creation. This second creation is not of the same substance as the first creation. Man was created by the Word in the second creation [terrestrial substance]. So angels are of the substance of the first creation which we then called heaven while man is of the second creation which we call terrestrial.

You can Google Pre Adamic civilizations through the Sumerian King List. The fallen angel, Enmen -dur-ana, ruled the earth during the creation of Adam and did have freedom to disobey the Word. In fact according to the archeological Sumerian cuneiform tablets, which exist today, tell us he ruled for 21,000 of those years of that era. So according to modern science today, Angels of the first creation did have free wills of obedience and disobedience the same as the second creation.

Emen-dur- ana was of the substance of the first creation and was the reason that Adam was placed in protection in the garden in the Eden area of this new world. Today he is in captivity in the depths of Sheol waiting for his punishment. All of the first creation who disobeyed the Creator are likewise in the depths of Sheol waiting punishment. A Satan is of spiritual substance who is a foe of the Creator. There are many Satan's. The Satan's of the era of Jesus till this day are the Satan's of the days of Jered. These Satan's are wondering evil spirits that aflect all life form in this second creation.