Corona Virus Updates Part 2

a reply to: SpartanStoic

I don't agree with tanstaafl. We don't have anywhere near the correct numbers from CCP to determine if it's a pandemic. I personally think it is. I also am about 100% convinced US Gov't is hiding the true numbers here stateside. I have reasons outside of what I read on this thread to make me believe this.

I agree with you. Looking at the forecasting data presented in a past video posted, will be around June/July for the infection to spread to most people around the world. There are other factors that will influence this including quarantine procedures and seasonal variations.

There are big issues in accurate reporting, social media is helping fill in some of the gaps. The science community is doing good with what they do have to work with. At this time a fatality rate of 15-20% appears reasonable, could be higher as the censorship and pressure on social order does make it tough for an accurate picture of the reality.

I do see a strong case for being a bioengineering weapon building. I like to think it was an accidental release, I would not be surprised to learn more nefarious motives in its emergence.

originally posted by: Dolby_X
a reply to: MaverickLRD

look like it's more then that

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in your picture the infection is in the lungs? Again, respiratory
The other highlighted spots are symptoms
Infections can cause numerous complications
That doesn’t mean someone is passing gas and excreting coronavirus.

originally posted by: kwakakev
Shocking footage inside Coronavirus Outbreak in China COVID-19

This short video contains a clearer video of 3 children being placed into one body bag at a hospital. Looks legitimate to me. Concerns about a shortage of body bags is one reason that comes to mind for why this would be done. Also contains footage of a murder of crows in the city streets.

Coronavirus Videos and News - Feb 12th Update

This longer video starts with a few of the other clips going around, gets more into translating some of the text messages going around. The presenter claims he has seen 1000's of calls for help throughout all of the messages, reads out in English some of the main ones.

I've followed ATS forever, first post unfortunately. When I saw this video of the 3 children in one body bag I couldn't hold back my tears and it hit me hard. I shared this with my wife. Every life is precious and the world needs to be informed. Thank you everyone for your efforts.

a reply to: ketsuko

Seems CCP was serious about not letting American officials in. And I believe it to be true that WHO must be invited.

Absolutely they should’ve been on the ground immediately.

But since WHO/CDC need #s to use as puzzle pieces for narrative, they’re at a loss when it comes to ordering what must be in place for them to touch down in China.

Bonus: does WHO get tours of the crematoriums in action?

a reply to: MaverickLRD

Good advice
although it has been shown this virus is not only active in feces but also airborne.
This is not the average influenza
whole streets,cities are being dusted with disinfectant.
wash hands completely agree #1

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: MaverickLRD

Good advice
although it has been shown this virus is not only active in feces but also airborne.
This is not the average influenza
whole streets,cities are being dusted with disinfectant.

I never said it was the average influenza. I only bring it up as an example of precautions taken with other respiratory viruses
Unfortunately it seems far more transmissible than influenza

a reply to: Bicent

Good point. But is this before or after they change the wording, definition, cause of death, actual name of disease?

a reply to: AB8108

Looking at the beginning of the first vid, you wonder if they will rename this disease to crow-navirus

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: MaverickLRD

Good advice
although it has been shown this virus is not only active in feces but also airborne.
This is not the average influenza
whole streets,cities are being dusted with disinfectant.

You bring up a great point about fecal transmission though. That too creates a new dynamic. SARS also infected this way
And you see all the kiddos out there or people with poor bathroom etiquette and now we have yet another mode of transmission to worry about

a reply to: slatesteam

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Wanna see how they try to spin it. There are some lies going on big time in this corona virus scenario, China, we know is doing it for sure...

a reply to: Village Idiot

I’ll buy an “R” to make it COrVID-19.

Don't know whether this has already been posted, but found this update this morning on the Brighton, UK situation:

Brighton councillor claims coronavirus threat is being hidden

Public Health England, Brighton and Hove council and other health authorities are failing to keep residents informed about the extent of the coronavirus outbreak, a city councillor has claimed. With five confirmed cases of the potentially lethal virus linked to a Hove-based man, Steve Walsh, a member of the city council’s health board expressed concern that the number of people infected in the area may be higher than the official figure. Speaking outside the County Oak medical centre, which remained closed on Tuesday morning after a GP who worked there contracted coronavirus after coming into contact with Walsh, Prof Samer Bagaeen also accused the authorities of trying to censor councillors. He said: “I think they have not been straight with everyone from the start and have intentionally hid the implications of the infections.

Brighton councillor claims coronavirus threat is being hidden

a reply to: ItsOkToBeHappy

Washington state coronavirus patient treated with investigational, unapproved Ebola drug

Remdesivir has not been approved for use by the Food and Drug Administration, although doctors can pursue “compassionate use” of a drug in the event of a serious health condition where the benefits outweigh the risks. The patient consented to this treatment.

“To my knowledge, this is the first reported case in the world where this drug has been used in a human application against this virus,” Dr. Jay Cook, chief medical officer at Providence Regional Medical Center, said in a press call Friday.

This is not exactly true. China did file a patent for Remdesivir about a month ago for treatment with 2019-nCoV. CCP party members and military people are on the priority list for treatment with this drug which has been mentioned in some recent papers. It is one to watch.

It may help explain why President Xi has been laying low while getting treatment?

Coronavirus Bioweapon, Media Bioterrorism, and Recommendations to Reduce Risks to Public Health and Safety, Pdf

The subject Coronavirus is undoubtedly a lab-engineered bioweapon.

Clear-and-convincingproof of this includes published science issued by nine honorable experts led by Prashant Pradham, the Chief technical Officer for IBM in Asia. Pradham’s team used the WATSON computer to analyze genetic similarities in the corona virus and other pathogens. Unmistakably, 2019 nCoV contains a ‘smoking gun’--the AIDS virus envelop gene—prima facie evidence of a lab virus ‘recombinant’.

This discovery of weaponizing 2019 nCoV with HIV’s attachment mechanism is compounded by the finding of evolutionary biologist Dr. James Lyons - Weiler of the Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge. Dr. Lyons showed the coronavirus' genetic sequence contains a unique "middle fragment" encoding for a SARS protein inserted to presumably increase respiratory distress using "pShuttle" technology used exclusively in labs, not nature...

Those who smear whistleblowers as foolish ‘conspiracy theorists, ’to defame and neutralize us, are deadly to public health and safety, as evidenced by the neglect and smearing of my works over the years that accurately predicted our current pandemic challenges .

The contents of this letter by Dr Leonard G. Horowitz, Medical Veritas International, Inc. to the White house is briefly described by Dr Paul Cottrell, confirming a lot of what he has been saying about bioengineering and media censorship.

Coronavirus White House letter discussion by Dr. Paul Cottrell

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: MaverickLRD

Good advice
although it has been shown this virus is not only active in feces but also airborne.
This is not the average influenza
whole streets,cities are being dusted with disinfectant.
wash hands completely agree #1

Why do I picture that meme of a guy sneezing in a shower room. I think it may have aerosolized also. Yi

Guangzhou & Shenzhen to allow temporary seizure of private properties to control spread of coronavirus

Guangzhou and Shenzhen’s city legislatures passed the measures on Tuesday during urgent meetings. It marks the first time after the establishment of China’s property law in 2007 where governments have been allowed to seize private property using emergency powers.

Definitely the action to take when the virus is under control and is slowing down /s

www.hongkongfp.com...

Study: 1324 Chinese #COVI19 patients led by Zhong Nanshan finds:
- incubation times out to 24 days
- only 43.8% of new patients have fevers
- after hospitalizatn 87.9% devel fever
- surveillance is missing many cases
- median patient age = 47, w/41% female

a reply to: Agit8dChop

US Gov't has same laws. They fall under FEMA Presidential Executive Orders. They have never been activated. Hope they never will.

a reply to: kwakakev

Thank you kk for that insightful and much-needed drink of info. This was a huge publish! Holy f’in sh*t!

So it’s a chimaera? And does that allow it to perform so aberrantly with regards to transmission, incubation, symptoms (or lack there of), and all the way to treatment, etc etc?

Like is this thing a real life Frankenstein from the lab?

A little hope maybe or I hope not just hype.

www.forbes.com...

Has The Coronavirus Bottomed Out? Wall Street Thinks It’s Close

The end is near!

In a good way.

Some Chinese factories are re-opening. The Chinese government has already cut taxes and interest rates on companies impacted by the coronavirus epidemic there. And whether or not Chinese people are really willing to return to work today on the orders of the authorities, the market is dying to call a bottom on this thing. It’s like Wall Street is set to price in the V-shape recovery before it even prices in losses to the economy, assuming the novel coronavirus remains in the spotlight for the rest of the first quarter.

The Xtrackers Harvest CSI-300 China A-shares (ASHR) exchange traded fund was up 1.85% on Monday. It rose on news from China that a government coronavirus working group said it was safe for companies outside of the epicenter in Hubei province to return to work.

Mainlanders are of two polarized minds: Beijing is taking too long to contain this thing. They’re mad. And, Beijing is doing a good job and this will all be over soon. They’re trusting.

Of course, we can't go by what the gambling casinos say. I've heard on a newscast that the cases may be bottoming out. I have to get where I heard that. I'm looking.