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originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Zanti Misfit
Not sure if you're joking about joe being a commie, but no he's not . He's more in the middle of the political spectrum i think. Maybe slightly more left. Im not sure, nor is it important IMO
You are right. Those average everyday Americans standing behind him in Iowa don’t have a clue they are standing for communism and a communist who promoted communist dictators in the past. They have no clue how unviable and unsustainable his plans are.
originally posted by: Halfswede
originally posted by: ColeYounger
a reply to: blueman12
I've heard Rogan say numerous times that he's a libertarian.
If this is true, then he would be opposed to pretty much everything Sanders espouses.
For some reason people put their blinders on with Bernie. He's a straight-up communist. Go look for videos of him praising Castro. He doesn't even hide his agenda and people who will claim to be conservative still think he is a viable alternative.
People just don't research anything themselves any more and rely on their feelings to fill in the gap.
Being cool and interesting is not enough. You have to know what you are talking about or what Sanders is talking about. Forbes magazine breaks down all the costs just of the Medicare for all plan alone ... and it’s not a pretty sight. Bernie has to know his plan is not sustainable. www.google.com... rly-bad-idea/amp/
originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Generation9
Ive listened to him a lot and not sure what you mean.. Anti-American, how? He says he's not the smartest person all the time and as a comedian i don't expect his opinions to be perfect... How does he muddy the waters? Ive learned a lot from his guests...
Ive found cool and interesting people to read/listen to through podcasts like Joe's and others.
berniesanders.com...
A just transition for workers. This plan will prioritize the fossil fuel workers who have powered our economy for more than a century and who have too often been neglected by corporations and politicians. We will guarantee five years of a worker’s current salary, housing assistance, job training, health care, pension support, and priority job placement for any displaced worker, as well as early retirement support for those who choose it or can no longer work.
Is not Bernie also gaming the system ? How many houses does he have ? If he was truly going to be equitable and fair, why would he have multiple homes while people in San Francisco are homeless? He needs to walk his talk.
originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
My take:
As of this moment, Bernie is the candidate to beat. That scares the hell out of both democrats and republicans because a Trump v. Bernie race creates opportunities for too many questions aimed at people and powers that are fundamentally above questioning. If it looks like he has won the nomination, I expect the DNC elite will radicalize and go after him with tanks if they have to. Their golf-buddies in the RNC will be right behind them too. A legitimate debate between these principalities is forbidden. The risk of a Bernie presidency -- even without the support of either side in congress -- is simply too high for those who have spent a lifetime gaming what was once the perfect system.
originally posted by: pexx421
Geez. Joe is a guy with a talk show. He’s not a nut, or a loonie. He’s not part of some vast conspiracy. He’s just a person. He also has a huge following because, guess what, plenty Americans find him and his show interesting and agree with him on many things.
originally posted by: Generation9
originally posted by: pexx421
Geez. Joe is a guy with a talk show. He’s not a nut, or a loonie. He’s not part of some vast conspiracy. He’s just a person. He also has a huge following because, guess what, plenty Americans find him and his show interesting and agree with him on many things.
How do you know Joe is not part of some vast conspiracy?
Please tell us how you can possibly know this?
originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Zanti Misfit
Yea and some people ignore any negative things trump does but politics is just one aspect of someone. Many people form opinions on politics who barely do any research. Do their political opinions form a representation of who they are? No... In fact, many people barely spend anytime throughout their week thinking of politics.
Therefore, it's just silly to say politics define a man. Joe may or may not be misguided in his support of Bernie (although he likes other candidates too). That doesn't define him as he has a lot more to offer than occasional political opinions. Just like anyone else.
I think you're too invested in politics and therefore put judgement on others if they don't have your perception of politics. Maybe Joe is a little naive or uninformed when it comes to Bernie. But most of us are a little naive or uninformed on all sorts of various things. That doesn't make anyone less of a man.
originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Zanti Misfit
No i was arguing against your statement that politics makes a man...