China coronavirus transmission from snake to human, was Havard involved?

China coronavirus transmission from snake to human, was Havard involved?
December 12, 2019, Wuhan Municipal Health Commission reports that 27 cases of viral pneumonia with 7 of them being critically ill, began in the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in in the city of Wuhan, China. Most of them had history of exposure to the virus where poultry, bats, snakes; and other wildlife animals were also sold.
According to Journal of Medical Virology onlinelibrary.wiley.com...

“The recombination occurred within the viral spike glycoprotein, which recognizes cell surface receptor. Additionally, the findings suggest that snake is the most probable wildlife animal reservoir for the 2019-nCoV based on its RSCU bias close to snake compared to other animals.” RSCU bias between viruses and their hosts suggested that viruses tends to evolve codon usage bias that are comparable to their hosts. A comprehensive sequence analysis and comparison resulted in analysis suggesting that snake, is the most probable wildlife animal reservoir responsible for the current outbreak of 2019-nCoV infection.
The Chinese krait and the Chinese cobra have similar RSCU synonymous codon usage bias. The squared euclidean distance indicates that the 2019-nCoV and snakes from China have the highest similarity in synonymous codon usage bias. As parasitic microorganism, virus codon usage pattern resembles its host, indicating, from this study, that the 2019-nCoV came from some snakes at the market in Wuhan.
Do I believe this study? Not right now I don’t, but I find it suspect that, Charles Lieber, chair of Harvard's chemistry and chemical biology department, was arrested on charges of lying about receiving millions of dollars in Chinese funding. Lieber was required to work for Wuhan University of Technology and has been accused of trying to smuggle biological research back to China.

Prosecutors also discussed Tuesday, that Zaosong Zheng whose visa was sponsored by Harvard, was indicted last week on charges of smuggling stolen vials of biological research. Before he was about to board a December flight to Beijing, customs agents at Logan International Airport found 21 vials “wrapped in plastic and hidden in a sock.
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a reply to: Violater1

I can't wrap my head around the fact that why a Guy working that kinda Position at Harvard has the "need" to smuggle this kinda material.

Why risk everything you build and risk the rest of your career smuggling some stuff.

People don't make those choices in a heartbeat , he of all people should have know the risk it would bring to his future.

Who would hire a guy who sneaks stuff out of the lab ?

it smells like he is being forced or blackmailed , or has been honeypotted i dunno , or even working for the chinese.

originally posted by: TheGreazel
a reply to: Violater1


it smells like he is being forced or blackmailed , or has been honeypotted i dunno , or even working for the chinese.

What's "honeypotted"?

a reply to: Riffrafter

a "honey pot" is an attractive form (often a member of the victims prefered sexual partners gender) used to entrap and blackmail someone into performing an act, or actions...usually illegal.

honey potted: past tense

Working for the Chinese?
its the American`s who patented the vaccine. So its more likely that they want to boost sales. Hence releasing it, what a crazy world we live in.

originally posted by: illuminnaughty
Working for the Chinese?
its the American`s who patented the vaccine. So its more likely that they want to boost sales. Hence releasing it, what a crazy world we live in.

I was unaware that there is a vaccine for the 2019-nCoV.
Can you please provide a source, the world is waiting.

originally posted by: BlueJacket
a reply to: Riffrafter

a "honey pot" is an attractive form (often a member of the victims prefered sexual partners gender) used to entrap and blackmail someone into performing an act, or actions...usually illegal.

honey potted: past tense

Yep, honeypot goes as far back as "Bigited."

a reply to: TheGreazel
The incarcerated Harvard professor Charles Lieber who worked at the suspected Chinese virus weapon lab in Wuhan www.washingtontimes.com...
, had the background to help assemble the 2019-nCoV, “
Nanoelectronics for biology and medicine. Lieber demonstrated the first direct electrical detection of proteins, selective electrical sensing of individual viruses, and multiplexed detection of cancer marker proteins and tumor enzyme activity. en.wikipedia.org...

a reply to: Violater1

Fact that flu kills pig and chicken. Coronavirus evolves and kills everything. Mad scientists needs to be hung or beaten by the population of Earth just like those Nazi scientists US invited to remove its war crime.

originally posted by: makemap
a reply to: Violater1

Fact that flu kills pig and chicken. Coronavirus evolves and kills everything. Mad scientists needs to be hung or beaten by the population of Earth just like those Nazi scientists US invited to remove its war crime.

The professor from Harvard, Mr. Lieber, is responsible.

a reply to: Violater1

Boston MA just confirmed the Eighth case in the USA!
patch.com...

originally posted by: TheGreazel
a reply to: Violater1

I can't wrap my head around the fact that why a Guy working that kinda Position at Harvard has the "need" to smuggle this kinda material.

Why risk everything you build and risk the rest of your career smuggling some stuff.

People don't make those choices in a heartbeat , he of all people should have know the risk it would bring to his future.

Who would hire a guy who sneaks stuff out of the lab ?

it smells like he is being forced or blackmailed , or has been honeypotted i dunno , or even working for the chinese.

Some middle eastern cultures revolve around not having a moral compass and accruing as much financial wealth that they can muster.

a reply to: Violater1

With the recent report that the State Dept is sending 500 to 1000 people to 4 different bases, it sounds very serious.

originally posted by: Violater1
Lieber was required to work for Wuhan University of Technology and has been accused of trying to smuggle biological research back to China.

No he wasn't. He was accused to lying to the feds and funding agencies about financial ties to China. The other two cases of Chinese nationals smuggling research and information are not related to him.

originally posted by: hypervalentiodine

originally posted by: Violater1
Lieber was required to work for Wuhan University of Technology and has been accused of trying to smuggle biological research back to China.

No he wasn't. He was accused to lying to the feds and funding agencies about financial ties to China. The other two cases of Chinese nationals smuggling research and information are not related to him.

I won't argue with you but you are wrong. Please review and read the links that are supplied at the beginning. www.wsj.com...

And here: " These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference[s], applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT." www.justice.gov...

originally posted by: Violater1

originally posted by: hypervalentiodine

originally posted by: Violater1
Lieber was required to work for Wuhan University of Technology and has been accused of trying to smuggle biological research back to China.

No he wasn't. He was accused to lying to the feds and funding agencies about financial ties to China. The other two cases of Chinese nationals smuggling research and information are not related to him.

I won't argue with you but you are wrong. Please review and read the links that are supplied at the beginning. www.wsj.com...

Paywall. I am familiar with the case, and have read multiple articles on it. They are not related. Here is an article not behind paywall: www.sciencemag.org...

The U.S. Attorney’s Office in Boston announced today it has charged Charles Lieber, the chair of Harvard University’s department of chemistry and chemical biology and a prominent nanoscience researcher, with making a false statement to federal investigators about his financial ties to a university and foreign talent recruitment program in China.

In unrelated cases, prosecutors simultaneously filed charges against two Chinese nationals, Yanqing Ye and Zaosong Zheng, who had been enrolled in scientific research programs at universities in Massachusetts.

They key bit in bold.

Further:

He has not been charged with economic espionage for passing along intellectual property. Instead, the allegation focuses on a financial relationship Lieber developed with the Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) and China’s Thousand Talents Program beginning in 2011.

a reply to: Violater1

California health officials on Sunday confirmed the second case of the novel coronavirus in the Bay Area, marking the ninth confirmed case in the U.S.The woman came from China on Jan. 23.
www.foxnews.com...

a reply to: Violater1

THERE ARE NOW 11 CASES OF CORONAVIRUS IN THE USA!!!!
11 of the 17,000 cases of the new coronavirus are in the U.S.
www.cbsnews.com...

There are 11 confirmed cases of coronavirus in the U.S., nine of which were diagnosed in people who had recently traveled to Wuhan. There are two cases of transmission between spouses.
www.marketwatch.com...

3 people in New York City being tested for coronavirus, health department reports. abc7ny.com...
"Three people in New York City are being tested for coronavirus, according the Department of Health, including one patient who is hospitalized at New York Presbyterian-Queens and is in stable condition.

Additionally, authorities say a 60-year-old who displayed fever symptoms and shortness of breath Sunday was hospitalized at Flushing Hospital Medical Center, and another person under 40 years old who spent time in mainland China arrived in the city on Thursday and called 911 on Friday after feeling symptoms.

On Saturday morning, an ambulance brought that patient to Bellevue Hospital."