Are You Worried Yet?

a reply to: Riffrafter

Here in Austin, everyone is going through the Cedar Fever. Right now that crap is everywhere. It's worse than trying to get sand and glitter out of the crack of your....


I'm still coughing up junk from a week ago though not so much. Doesn't help the fact that I smoke.

Tree Pollen can ruin your whole week. I literally slept for 26 hours on that last day before I went back to work. Lost about 8lbs in a week from not eating or having an appetite. All from TREE POLLEN! ...or was it

a reply to: StallionDuck

CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.

Nope. Based on the above info, we have a ways to go before we should worry about yet another virus.

Run for the hills!
We got us a bug loose that's damn near as deadly as peanuts.

Went to visit a friend today, his Mrs works in a hospital in Coventry and she said they had a patient test positive for Coronavirus today.

Looks like it's here in the Midlands already..

originally posted by: StoutBroux
a reply to: StallionDuck

CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.

Nope. Based on the above info, we have a ways to go before we should worry about yet another virus.

That's not actually news for relief. This is yet one more to throw in there with that one. Fun facts about these viri. They're not the same so either or both can affect you back to back. What may work as a vaccine (if you can even come up with one) may not work on the same strain weeks down the road. They're always changing. What might work on one will often never work with a different strain.

So take those deaths from Influenza and all of the other Pneumonia and flu deaths and swirl it in with this new viral curiosity. If one don't get ya, the others will.

I agree... Influenza isn't good at all and lots of lives are lost every year but that is over a year. If this one comes out as bad as the Spanish Flu (oddly came from China also), it wont take a year to rack up that many deaths and far more. I admit that this could possibly be nothing but when something is moving that fast and infecting people that quickly around the world and gets this much attention on the news.... I'm going to keep my preparations close, just in case. We don't even know how many people are infected. I'm almost certain that the numbers we do have are only a LOW guess. Add 10 days to the current guess - Imagine what that could be like.

I'm not telling anyone to worry. I'm just saying, keep an open mind and keep your options available. We've been told countless times from 'scientist' that we could end up in the middle of a deadly pandemic at any time that could quite possibly leave humanity in shambles if not extinct.

The other thing I'm pointing out is.... A good deal of this has some real weirdness to it. Yeah, the universe messes with our minds by using numbers and similarities and more, sometimes it's worth listening because we just might one day be warned and we wouldn't even know how to listen.

a reply to: UnicycleMan

So it's be the first case in the UK then? since there has been no actual report of anyone having the Coronavrius in the UK yet but there are 31 being tested for it or 31 tested negative for the virus.


www.bbc.co.uk...

Not worried, but it definitely has our attention. Husband's company has issued travel warnings about Asia, not China, all of Asia. So they're taking it serious too.

We plan to add some things to our current supply stock this weekend, and will likely raise the subject with my folks when we see them since their farmhouse is our bug out location (not that they know that), but they have a well for water. Not surye how well they'd handle 2 adults, 1 kid, 3 cats, and 1 snake descending on them ... but we'd bring stuff ...

a reply to: deviant300

If it turns out to be correct information then yes. She is an honest individual and unlikely to make up a story.

Eyes on the media for official confirmation I suppose.

originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: Riffrafter

Here in Austin, everyone is going through the Cedar Fever. Right now that crap is everywhere. It's worse than trying to get sand and glitter out of the crack of your....


I'm still coughing up junk from a week ago though not so much. Doesn't help the fact that I smoke.

Tree Pollen can ruin your whole week. I literally slept for 26 hours on that last day before I went back to work. Lost about 8lbs in a week from not eating or having an appetite. All from TREE POLLEN! ...or was it

So this "Cedar Fever" is essentially a blowout allergic reaction?

I also have pollen allergies but what I'm suffering from now is far worse than that.

Everything that allergies give you plus aches in all of my main joints - knees especially, but also hips, elbows and lower back.

Hope you guys get through this quickly. I'm finally starting to feel better....finally.

I doubt it's related, but where I am, people are really struggling with something flu-like. So far, 3 co-workers have come down with pneumonia after battling whatever it is they contracted and quite a few others have been really dragged through the ringer with symptoms that just won't go away. Loss of voice lasting nearly a week in two of them. Since we have to interact with customers constantly and use the intercom, it's not terribly fun to deal with.

Another co-worker just went home early today with the beginnings of what seems like the flu. Given that they have heart problems, that's kind of worrying for them.

Have to admit, what's going on in China is worrying and I'm nowhere near anything close to prepared to deal with a nasty or prolonged sickness.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: StallionDuck

No, I’m not worried.
About this flu anyway.
The one you need to worry about is the one killing half or more of those infected.

Not really - those that kill effectively die out faster. Vs. the one that incubates for over two weeks, and can spread like wildfire. A 2 or 3% worldwide mortality rate would be horrific.

a reply to: Subrosabelow

All three of us have had a bug that stuck in the back of our throats/chests and just seems to hang out there. I got it right around New Year's - the week after, and I can still sort of feel it like a weight, just hanging out.

Pretty sure that wasn't it, but this news doesn't help.

What causes additional worry is that families are running out of their own supplies hiding from the virus, leaving them vulnerable by the time they need to stock up on food again. I don't know if China Wuhan has pest/rodent problem however I Imagine all animal can be infected by the virus, so that will cause a bit of chaos no matter what PPE you're using.

If this really originated in a seafood market and is not a Bio weapon for the People's Liberation Army then I'd like to know what other virus' are brewing in the sea where they fished from

a reply to: ketsuko

I hope you have the required medication/treatment for this case. May I ask you where are you?

It's not even necessarily the virus itself that you need to worry about -- though that could yet prove to be something you should be worrying about as well, even if your immune system is strong enough to survive, how about your family and loved ones? But it's the onset of panic, whether justified or not, that can really cause havoc on our lives. Think food shortages, rioting, civil unrest, etc. And there's talk about China possibly needing to quarantine Shanghai eventually... imagine what that'll do to the World's economy? And then the consequences of that, causing even more panic, unrest, etc.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Subrosabelow

All three of us have had a bug that stuck in the back of our throats/chests and just seems to hang out there. I got it right around New Year's - the week after, and I can still sort of feel it like a weight, just hanging out.

Pretty sure that wasn't it, but this news doesn't help.

My hubs missed 2 weeks of work (3 12 hr shifts one week, 4 12 hr shifts the next) due to a bug he picked up at work around New Year's. It ripped through everyone, they had a lot of people call out sick for 2+ weeks before it ran it's course & everyone got better. He described it as "a bad lingering cold that tried to be a lingering flu". No fever, but a bad headache, runny nose & sneezing, coughing, sore throat, complete lack of energy (wiped out feeling) and not being able to get quite warm/cool enough (so just shy of hot/cold chills/flashes)

Considering he & I were just discussing this & the CV strain tonight, it made him wonder if that's what went through their factory, or a very similar strain of it. If so, it was an utterly miserable cold, but totally survivable. He's not aware of anyone that had to be hospitalized from their New Year's cold. And yes, they have Asian employees who went to visit family in Japan, Korea, and China for Christmas.
I had my own brief,miserable cold for a few days later on, but the kids never got sick. I have no idea if what I had was his strain or not, though.

Keeping that in mind, Ket, would that be about what you & yours had/have going on?

a reply to: Nyiah

Yeah, that sounds like it.

Keep in mind that my shoulder back then was still stiff enough I was having trouble sleeping more than 6 or 7 hours because that was all I had ice pack for. When I was going through the worst of it, I was sleeping 10 to 11 hours without even trying.

I had a general headache and just felt like crap. Maybe a runny nose for a day or so, but no real fever, no drastic congestion, not even now. I just felt like it was hanging over my head. I did get a random bloody nose from it which was unusual. I still feel like it's hanging out back there, a little short of breath, and my nose is a bit runny. I am still a bit wiped out too. But it's not getting worse ... just not letting go.

I stayed around the house cranky (I think my posts were even cranky then) and drinking tons of hot tea for a couple day then got back at it.

Husband'd company does have business ties to Asia including China, but he doesn't recall them having entertained any VIPs around that time as they often do because I did ask. They do have international employees (including some Chinese and other Asian nationals; it's the UN really), and we all went through it. He had it first and thought he brought it home from work.

a reply to: Nyiah

My hubs missed 2 weeks of work (3 12 hr shifts one week, 4 12 hr shifts the next) due to a bug he picked up at work around New Year's. It ripped through everyone, they had a lot of people call out sick for 2+ weeks before it ran it's course & everyone got better. He described it as "a bad lingering cold that tried to be a lingering flu". No fever, but a bad headache, runny nose & sneezing, coughing, sore throat, complete lack of energy (wiped out feeling) and not being able to get quite warm/cool enough (so just shy of hot/cold chills/flashes)

Bingo!

That is EXACTLY what I have - the same exact symptoms.

It's been hanging on for over 2 weeks now although I am a little better today, finally.

It's brutal whatever it is.

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: ketsuko

I hope you have the required medication/treatment for this case. May I ask you where are you?

Not sure what could be done at this point. We're all either over it or well on our way to it. This is cold and flu season and there are 1,001 different variations of things out there. We've got no real reason to believe this was it and not some other seasonal nastiness.

And if it wasn't and we end up making a fuss over it, we could distract resources and/or end up exposing ourselves to the real thing.

We're in KC though for what it's worth.

Its hard to be worried when the news media has been sensationalizing everything for the last two decades or more. This is especially the kind situation in which their bad acting has the potential to hurt people. I hope this is just another case of scare mongering.

As for China's unpleasant response. If the conspiracy theories are true and this was an escape from a Chinese lab than that in itself could explain the response. Knowing they F-ed up they are being preemptive trying to prove they did the right thing when they realized their mistake.