Corona Virus Updates

originally posted by: weirdguy
a reply to: Advantage

yah it's amasing, I have no idea how they will staff these hospitals, they are said to be 1,000 beds each. Maybe they will call out for expats to work there?

Im just wondering to myself how many free available to travel and WOULD travel to ground zero neonatal and pediatric and general respiratory specialists there are in the world to fill the needs. Some folks needs teams of ICU specialists of different disciplines... my daughter ( not a virus) had 12 alone.. 6 every shift.. and that was just for the round the clock care. Thats not including when the poo would hit the fan and it hits often. Its just the incredible numbers of the ill and potential ill there thats crazy to me. Seemingly all at once. People were all up in arms over the dead in the halls and the sick in the parking lot. They just have NO idea how impossible this is.

Suspected virus cases in China:
1/27 5,974
1/28 6,973
1/29 9,239
1/30 12,167
1/31 15,238

(Source: Chinese gov't press releases)
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Don't know if this increase is people waiting to be tested, waiting for test results, or...?

Just goes to show real world how fast something like this spreads, it's scary.

There are currently 9,821 confirmed cases worldwide, including 213 fatalities.

we'll break 10,000 any moment now

a reply to: sean

Well thing will move faster soon dont forget China is still in Holydays and they get extended into february to slow down the spread.

The number of travelers returning to Beijing increased at Beijing West Railway Station, from about 100,000 on January 29 to 119,000 the following day. According to the China State Railway, the country’s rail sector will strengthen prevention and control measures to help prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus. Beijing West Railway Station increased prevention efforts that included disinfecting trains, stations, and measuring body temperatures

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I appreciate that there are 143 confirmed recoveries, when you consider that 10 million people plus can get the flu annually and only 80K die from it, and that is just America. So far this is nothing. Get a great immune system, mortality rate is very low. It's not like Ebola or the plague without any treatment those are 90% fatality rate.
Still for those with weakened immunity this is not good, I just purchased a bunch of immunity boosters which I don't want to take every day, but I will well this is happening.
If you have HIV/AIDS you don't want to catch it could be a death sentence.

originally posted by: Dolby_X
a reply to: sean

Well thing will move faster soon dont forget China is still in Holydays and they get extended into february to slow down the spread.

The number of travelers returning to Beijing increased at Beijing West Railway Station, from about 100,000 on January 29 to 119,000 the following day. According to the China State Railway, the country’s rail sector will strengthen prevention and control measures to help prevent the spread of the novel coronavirus. Beijing West Railway Station increased prevention efforts that included disinfecting trains, stations, and measuring body temperatures

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Something definitely needs to change, as well as planning. This will happen over and over again. Prevention can go a long ways.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's the Coronavirus gift of pneumonia part that is of concern.

According to wiki...

Pneumonia affects approximately 450 million people globally (7% of the population) and results in about four million deaths per year.

Pneumonia often shortens suffering among those already close to death and has thus been called "the old man's friend."

Hello darkness, my old friend.

originally posted by: TheAMEDDDoc
Has anyone reviewed the Event 201 simulation about how world leaders would respond to a pandemic?

This one seemed to be worse but there were some interesting highlights:

Intermittent disabling of social media to prevent panic.

Networking of all public health systems, media and social media to control information and disinformation.

Influx of government funding to keep crucial systems and private companies functioning.

Governments hoarding supplies when they should be sharing them.

Failure of “just in time” supply systems requiring revision.

International reworking of systems to maintain control of supply systems in multiple nations.

Travel restrictions impacting trade and damaging the economy.

Suggestions of maintaining a war footing in extreme scenarios.

GDP loss of 11% and stock market loss of 20-40%

Their pandemic lasted 18 months with up to 10 years of economic damage.

There was also loss of social cohesion and control in some cases due to rationing of supplies.

They were unable to develop a vaccine in time.

Loss of faith in governments.

Oh well, guess I was being too optimistic lol, one would hope they learned something from the exercise, too bad reality is completely different.

The wrap of video is 12 minutes, they have an 8 hour video of the exercise. I have no time to watch that, wish they had some written materials.

Wowww... I will finish watching this shortly but the highlights alone are enough to make you go hmmmm based on what we're seeing.

Will report back in a bit - thanks for sharing

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
a reply to: Blue_Jay33

It's the Coronavirus gift of pneumonia part that is of concern.

According to wiki...

Pneumonia affects approximately 450 million people globally (7% of the population) and results in about four million deaths per year.

Pneumonia often shortens suffering among those already close to death and has thus been called "the old man's friend."

Hello darkness, my old friend.

Well.. you see at first it was a cluster of cases of pneumonia that turned severe quickly that flooded a hispital in Wuhan. They called infectious disease in due to the case numbers and they couldnt define it.. so the fear was SARS. Then they discovered it was a novel virus. A coronavirus yes.. but one we hadnt seen before. Pneumonia is what most death are from. I think secondary were cardiac injury.

Both the living and the dead... high concentrations of cytokines were recorded in plasma of critically ill patients infected with 2019-nCoV.

a reply to: FamCore

Search "Event 201 Pandemic Exercise" on youtube, 5 other segments.

originally posted by: EndtheMadnessNow
Suspected virus cases in China:
1/27 5,974
1/28 6,973
1/29 9,239
1/30 12,167
1/31 15,238

(Source: Chinese gov't press releases)
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Don't know if this increase is people waiting to be tested, waiting for test results, or...?

Claimed answer:
@lookner

On Tuesday the head of the Communist Party in Wuhan said that since mid-January, Wuhan can only test "about 300" people a day for the virus. Number of new Wuhan cases reported today: 378.

(from CNN)
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a reply to: Agit8dChop

You might also Like Barbara Tuchman's "A Distant Mirror" about the 14th Century.
Or Dan Carlin's Hardcore history podcast "Bubonic Nukes"

www.dancarlin.com...

Why mask are necessary.

The sneeze from someone goes 3 meters ( almost 10 feet )

Was just watching TV and they showed this example with high tech medical equipment. So, yes, if you know you are going to be in crowed areas, please try to wear a mask. And if possible, don't wear contacts but eye glasses would be recommended .

Anyone here working in the banking industry?
If so, do you think they'll be a rush to withdraw money and or, will the banks limit the amount that can be withdrawn?
Really something to think about.

a reply to: EndtheMadnessNow

That’s awful, so what no test, no bed, then they seal you in your own home? How extreme are they willing to go with controlling this thing?

My mind wanders, but the last thing you want is this thing in the wild jumping around like crazy. We have no idea if this thing circulated before and then turned into this. Even if it mutates and becomes more severe, hitting the lower airway more with increased pneumonia rates and doubles or triples mortality, that could change everything.

It looks like they’re rationing resources already and it hasn’t even peaked yet. We have different morals, they want the state to survive, no matter the cost.

At least 21 people are currently under investigation for potential coronavirus exposure after a second person tested positive in Illinois, marking the first case of human-to-human transmission in the U.S., health officials said.
"This is a rapidly evolving situation and the status of individuals will change as we investigate," said Dr. Ngozi O. Ezike, director of the Illinois Department of Public Health.

Illinois

Didn't know if it was posted yet.

Just a heads up from Illinois.

a reply to: musicismagic

Initially there would be a "banking holiday" event, likely entertwined with some sort of national level closure of all places that see high levels of foot traffic like malls, schools, libraries, etc, under the same auspices as China has used to combat the spread of the virus. After that holiday yeah, when banks reopened the little guys would see caps on how much they could withdraw.

a reply to: musicismagic

I do.

We had issues during the downturn years ago. Big run on cash withdrawals which means banks have to liquidate assets generally as they don’t keep that much cash on hand. Also turned into security and liability issues as people would tell others they were taking out cash and then be robbed.

In general, we tried to talk people out of taking so much cash.

We set out protocols to ensure safety (and potential liability).

Look what else is spreading...

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Reuters: Air France, which maintained China flights throughout the SARS epidemic, suspended its Beijing and Shanghai flights on Thursday after cabin crews demanded an immediate halt.

Reuters: "When the staff see that other airlines have stopped flying there, their reaction is 'Why are we still going?'," said Flore Arrighi, president of UNAC, one of the Air France's four main flight attendants' unions.
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