You’re a bunch of dopes and babies’: Inside Trump’s stunning tirade against generals

a reply to: Kurokage

Are these the same great Military Leaders who were lying to us for over a decade about how great we were doing in Afghanistan?


Just checking.

They got no room to complain about Trump when they actually have the blood and lies on their hands.

Read the Afghanistan Papers and tell me I'm wrong.

originally posted by: DBCowboy

I’m a vet, will vote for him again because the alternative is far worse.

Officers (I was one) mostly have their heads stuck up their asses.

They need a good ass chewing from time to time.

I was in the military from 1980 to 2008 and I'm still today involved as a contractor. The funny part is those who were in the military typically are the lest to say anything about people doing what they can to stay out of the draft. It was a bad time for all and people have moved away from it a long time ago. Clinton was actually worst than Trump in what his family did to keep him out. Bush played the reserve game, Obama didn't have a war so he just sat around college smoking pot.

I

originally posted by: soulwaxer

How many US soldiers and civilians were killed during Obama's presidency, and how many have been killed under Trump? Trump has been eliminating those who were responsible for many of the deaths under Obama. He must be doing something right, or at least less wrong.

It is as if they are complaining that Trump stole a pack of gum while saying nothing as Obama robbed a bank. I have asked over and over to name one really bad thing Trump has actually done and I get crickets. The big complaint is "he hasn't done this" or He hasn't done that" and we are talking about the only President in modern history who is actually working his way through his campaign promises checking them off one at a time.

As example with Obama... remember when... Obama said he would have the most transparent Goverment ever seen? Well in very short order we ended up with the most closed Goverment ever seen to include basically shutting down the FOIA.
How does something this huge rate to those bitching about Trump?

a reply to: Kurokage
Next time do due diligence and perform research.
The snippet is from a book by Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig
Who is Philip Rucker one may ask ?
Philip Rucker is the White House Bureau Chief for The Washington Post.

Who is Carol Leonnig one may ask as well ?
National investigative reporter focused on the White House and government for The Washington Post

So , this is most likely a case of self promoting a book .
Most likely , considering the sources , a poorly written fantasy novel.

I posted this after reading the article and was wondering do any members who serve or served their country and would normally vote republican feel their faith in their leader failing and after 3 years of a Trump presidency, would you rather vote for a different republican given half the chance, maybe someone with military experience?

I for one thinks he has done a superb job in all respects and trust him to make right decisions even when it comes to our national defense.
The people I don't trust with our national defense are all of the armchair warriors in congress that think they know better. Hell most of our congressional representation in Washington are nothing more than community organizers. Do you trust them? I don't!

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: pexx421
As a us army and Air Force veteran I think trump is a horrible president. He has ignored the major issues such as the massive corruption and fraud that permeates our govt. IN fact, he should have devoted vast govt resources to one of the main issues of our time, the Epstein case, and all the pedos and rapists in govt that have associated with him.

Really Epstein is the big thing out of so many dirrections that you see as a top priority for a President to do...lol geez This massive corruption can you name some of it that Trump could have fixed or caused in 3 years? BTW they couldn't devote vast govt resources since it was all being used ON TRUMP...lol give me a break.

It is relevant though...something to do with Presidential er, memory loss on a, 'grandiose' scale.

Extract,
'WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump has claimed that he does not know Prince Andrew, but a recently resurfaced interview with People from 2000 says otherwise, showing Trump describing Andrew as "a lot of fun to be with."

“He’s not pretentious. He’s a lot of fun to be with,” Trump told People in 2000, speaking of Andrew. The article also states that Trump and Andrew, as well as Trump’s then-girlfriend Melania Knauss, had “chatted” at a Halloween costume party hosted by Heidi Klum in New York City in 2000.'
www.nbcnews.com...



Then we have Curly Larry and Mo,



files.abovetopsecret.com...

Of course, if you are a good ol' boy, none of this ever happened..nor important, right?

The import...judgemental not really, as long as anyone is sane, but also true to themselves.
That's the most important thing.

originally posted by: Irishhaf

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Irishhaf
the sad thing is the DNC lost to him... and with the current crop of whack jobs they have fighting to run against him there is a good chance he wins again.

if the Democrats would offer something different than what they have and offer a platform that appealed to the majority of independent/middle ground voters they would have won 2016 in a walk, and would have won in 2020 as well.

Instead of people trying to tell me how horrible mean, nasty, juvenile trump is, give me a change I can accept to encourage me to vote against him.

But the economy is doing well, unemployment is down, (in record numbers for some groups) he appears to be fighting china for the economic benefit of America...

I didnt vote for Donald, wont in 2020 either, but no way will I vote for a democrat either.

The DNC needs a platform that cant be distilled into SJW talking points... higher taxes, more illegals, more infringement on our rights, bigger nanny state, they have forgotten how to speak to the blue collar worker that doesn't live on social media and scream in outrage over a tasteless joke.

Actually several Dem candidates are probably OK, it's just that team Trump has no qualms about character assasination and has control over several media outlets.

The Dems talk about political issues. Team Trump talk about sniffing hair, or clulessness, or make unfounded criminal allegations. It doesn't matter if it is true or not, is it damaging?

Quoted this for irony..

How many trump supporters have been labeled racist, sexist, Nazis etc if they publicly said anything good about trump.

Probably a few.

I suspect that the some assume that people in association with a racist, sexist, right whinger are assumed to have similar views.

Of course, you and I know that these type of assumptions about rather 'ill defined' groups isn't always valid. Only those who are actually guilty of infractions are the ones who are actually guilty.

Or look at people getting pissed at Vince Vaughn for having the gull to shake trumps hand... etc...

How about the pee gate dossier that was never verified...

How about that birth certificate, even when it was verified, Trump couldn't let that one go...

How about the people wishing ill on baron because hes trumps son...

Or what about the insinuation that Michelle Obama was a man...

Democrats are not exactly squeaky clean when it comes to the last 3 years.

I wasn't saying that there aren't some dirty Dems. I was saying that there are some really rancidly rotten Reeeeepubs.

It has never been either-or.

a reply to: Kurokage

This is a new book written by Philip Rucker and Carol D. Leonning (Washington Post reporters) who paint a picture of a US president who has no clue what he's doing and appears to be very disrespectful of those serving their country.

Yep. And they are right.

a reply to: pavil

www.yahoo.com... fun fact we may be getting the hell out of afganistan finally

He added that the Taliban were "optimistic" a deal with Washington could be signed before the end of the month and that the reduction in fighting across the country would also include the targeting of Afghan forces. "It's now a matter of days," said the spokesman. Washington has for weeks been calling on the militants to reduce violence, posing it as a condition for resuming formal negotiations on an agreement that would see US troops begin to leave the country in return for security guarantees, after a near two-decade fight. The Taliban and the US had been negotiating the deal for a year and were on the brink of an announcement in September 2019 when President Donald Trump abruptly declared the process "dead", citing Taliban violence. Talks were later restarted between the two sides in December in Qatar, but were paused again following an attack near the Bagram military base in Afghanistan, which is run by the US. Any agreement with the Taliban is expected to have two main pillars -- an American withdrawal from Afghanistan, and a commitment by the insurgents not to offer sanctuary to jihadists -- and would ultimately have to be given final approval by Trump.

so assuming all goes to plan we may begin to start pulling troops out before the November election which would be a nice shiny feather for trump to be able to put in his hat before the election

a reply to: Kurokage

Trump unleashed his disdain, calling Afghanistan a “loser war.”

IT IS!!!

What the eff have we gained from it?

Time to GTFO, we have a SNAFU.

a reply to: smurfy

Trump takes hundreds of pictures with people he dont really know well though. He practically invented the practice of a selfie with a stranger. When he goes somewhere he ask how many Snaps do i have each time.

originally posted by: smurfy

'WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump has claimed that he does not know Prince Andrew, but a recently resurfaced interview with People from 2000 says otherwise, showing Trump describing Andrew as "a lot of fun to be with."

“He’s not pretentious. He’s a lot of fun to be with,” Trump told People in 2000, speaking of Andrew. The article also states that Trump and Andrew, as well as Trump’s then-girlfriend Melania Knauss, had “chatted” at a Halloween costume party hosted by Heidi Klum in New York City in 2000.'

You are grabbing at straws here.

Are you saying that Trump didn't put the effort into Epstein because he was neck deep in it all? I would bet that the vast majority of what Epstein did was totally above the board. I would think he WAS a fun guy to be around, did a lot of fun billionaire type events that were totally straight up with a lot of rich, famous and powerful people around. We saw the same thing with Weinstein for decades as there are a plethora of who's who photographs with him including Hillary hugging the guy.

You are saying Trump is deep in it because there is a photo of him and Prince Andrew at a " Halloween costume party hosted by Heidi Klum in New York City in 2000" 19 years ago? So is Klum deep in it too? The interesting thing is they traveled in the same rich, famous and powerful circle prior to 2000 then something happen and Trump basically dropped him hard to the point of not allowing him to go to any of his hotels or resorts.

Of course, if you are a good ol' boy, none of this ever happened..nor important, right?

The import...judgemental not really, as long as anyone is sane, but also true to themselves.
That's the most important thing.

Epstein was a bad person, did a lot of bad things, but it doesn't mean everyone he dealt with was a part of what I would bet as his bad side was a very tight circle of people. Clinton seems to have been much closer to him than Trump ever was.

You are trying to create a narrative that 1000s others could easily fit within it too, but orange man bad gets put at the top of the list because, you know his hair is orange.

a reply to: yuppa

"Know" and "know well" are not the same thing.

a reply to: Gothmog

Next time do due diligence yourself and READ my post instead of trying to make yourself look good telling me to do "research", I stated who these people are and was asking members their opinions.

This is from my opening post!!

This is a new book written by Philip Rucker and Carol D. Leonning (Washington Post reporters)

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Gothmog

Next time do due diligence yourself and READ my post instead of trying to make yourself look good telling me to do "research", I stated who these people are and was asking members their opinions.

This is from my opening post!!

This is a new book written by Philip Rucker and Carol D. Leonning (Washington Post reporters)

And , I gave my opinion

Sounds like the windowless war room or tank needs to be more secure

a reply to: Gothmog

You didn't give your opinion, you tried to correct my post without reading it first, big fail!!
You tried to tell me to research who the authors were, I already stated who they were in the opening post. No, oh sorry I missed that bit, just more smugness.
You even purposely missed out my sentence that proved you failed when you tried to quote me.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: yuppa

"Know" and "know well" are not the same thing.

I used to go to a con every year k? id find the same dude and get a new pic each time,and didnt know them well at all. ever stop and think Lev was just doing something similiar so he can brag and say here i smy friend DOnalt trump? Its called clout chasing.

a reply to: yuppa

I was talking about the post with the Prince Andrew pics.

Sure you can say you know someone without being a partner in crime. Funny how pics of people in that other thread makes people claim "birds of a feather".

I'm sure you can say you have met/know the person in your anecdote.

originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: yuppa

I was talking about the post with the Prince Andrew pics.

Sure you can say you know someone without being a partner in crime. Funny how pics of people in that other thread makes people claim "birds of a feather".

I'm sure you can say you have met/know the person in your anecdote.

met yes,chatted a minute or two while getting autographs and a picture. And I dont believe they are birds of a feather either.