Kaikoura - encounter with 2nd of 5 craft on Argossy flight

a reply to: beyondknowledge

So Jupiter shows up on radar back then , my ole mind is blown

a reply to: BillyJoeeOzark

No. the film is of Jupiter. The radar was a false echo or something else not in the film.

The two are not relates other than the location of the observers.

a reply to: beyondknowledge

So the radar fella says hey there is something one your right side that just showed up. They look to the right and Jupiter was there? Then when Jupiter left their vision then the radar echo malfunction also showed it leaving? The loops you ole boys go through to is sorta strange

a reply to: BillyJoeeOzark

No. The second video explains that the film was shot from the co-pilot seat through the front right windshield while heading north east and looking forward. Jupiter was right in front of them. The plane and radar operator were not observing the same thing and sometime not even at the same time. There could be something really unidentified on the radar but they filmed Jupiter.

a reply to: beyondknowledge

Is Got to take an old as dirt pilot and crew that had seen Jupiter 1000s of ole times on the same route and a radar man with experience that knows his systems and machines over your mental gymnastics bubba

a reply to: BillyJoeeOzark

I am not saying and have never said the radar operator and pilot did not see something out of the ordinary. I am saying that the camera man filmed Jupiter. The cameraman was not a pilot and probably not even familiar with the sky. The film and the other reports are two separate things that happened at the same place and otherwise are not related.

It is like a car wreck being filmed in front of a bank being robbed. They don't film the robbery even though it is right in front of them because they are looking the other way.

I don't know, this green guy doesn't look much like Jupiter to me!



If we get consistent results from different frames, then it's not just a matter of our imagination and filters playing tricks on our perception.

BTW I can't really identify the shape in Sanders latest video, but I'm sure there's something there and it ain't Jupiter.

I am in no way disputing any reports of this incident except that I think I have enough evidence to say that the camera man filmed Jupiter. He was out of his element trying to do something that he had never done before. He looked out a window into the black of night and pointed his camera at the brightest thing he saw. It just happened to be Jupiter.

Jupiter was the brightest thing in front of the plane. The pilot might have said he saw something ahead and the camera man just pointed at the brightest thing and filmed.

It was not the camera man’s fault that he was hired to do a job he was not qualified to do. He actually got really close to getting a good image considering the plane was moving and the camera was hand held.

a reply to: A51Watcher

You have never looked through a telescope at Jupiter and adjusted the focus. Along with it getting fuzzy and bigger, depending on the telescope design, the color changes. This is because the colors can focus at diffent places, some ahead and some behind the correct focus. They are together when in focus.

That is exactly what a planet looks like when out of focus.

The plane is moving and the camera handheld, therefore it moves.

Again, I am not disputing the sighting but the camera man filmed Jupiter.

There needs to be an investigation on the other parts of this sighting before all the witnesses pass away. The film is a distraction in this investigation.

Also about the color, the developer had no reference to go by. Usually there is something in the image that is a known color in order to check the chemicals when developing.

Everyone can see if you watch the video with youtube's option of 0.25 speed you can watch the frames in stop motion.

From that you will be able to see both in focus and out of focus frames.

Notice only in focus frames were used for presentation.

So how can Jupiters' moons jump from one side of the planet to the other in just one frame? ( i.e. The wobble of the dark spot shown on the previous image I posted which is also much larger than the one on Jupiter. If you watch the video with youtube's option of 0.25 speed you can watch the frames in stop motion.

From that you will be able to see both in focus and out of focus frames.

Notice only in focus frames were used for presentation.

So how can Jupiters moons jump from one side of the planet to the other in just one frame? ( i.e. The wobble of the dark spots shown on the previous image I posted which is also much larger than the one on Jupiter.)

originally posted by: CthruU
a reply to: A51Watcher

Yes read this story yesterday on another site about the technological advancements now at hand that made these image enhancements available.

But seen as it's your thread do you reckon you could tell us a little about what these enhancement technologies are and why you think that we would be interested. (You know in line with thread post guidelines)

Whats the reason i should watch your vids? What do you think this could mean for humanity?

Give me some meat on the bone.

You can read about our enhancement technologies here -

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You can also read about the 1rst encounter of 5 different craft that night in Kaikoura here -

www.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
a reply to: A51Watcher


Impressive.

I see the controller, and is that another one down toward the bottom right? Looking straight at us?


This needs to get out to a wide audience

I am confident by the time you see all 5 of the different craft in this presentation that approached the Argossy flight that night, it will be abundantly clear what we are seeing.

originally posted by: CthruU

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
a reply to: CthruU

The video is very underwhelming and unspectacular. The stills in the op are pretty much it along with a short section of animated smudges that were from blowing up the original scan of the film. The video could be like a minute or two long but they stretched it out with repeats and texts.

The technology just isn't able to get anything useful from that original.

Yes the other news outlet where the OP quite possibly fished this out of was not one of your usual credible ones but the technology they where talking about seemed to make sense to a novice tech head such as myself.

I'll be watching with interest for the moment.

Thanks for the tip, I'll skip the vids for now.

We did not fish the video from any news outlet.

We were given exclusive access to the original 16mm film to work from.

See my first thread on this subject -

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Ok, I made sure that the resolution on YouTube was as high as it will go, 1080p, slowed it down to 25% speed and picked a frame that is probably the least out of focus on the actual video portion that you originally posted. I made a screen shot then enlarged it with no other enhancement or changes.

Now tell me what you see here. I don’t see any moons at all because it is still too out of focus and none of the so called details that are in the “enhanced” slide show images from that same video.

My evidence that it is Jupiter is based on the time, date, location, heading of plane, pointing of camera, etc.. from reports of the people that were actually there.

The film is just distracting from the incident investigation. Get someone to look into this like the film did not exist and there might be some good evidence in it.

Have you tried the technique of picking the best images in a video then aligning them and adding them together so that the information in the image is not enhanced but actually increases the resolution of the image. I tried googling this technique but all I get is regular video editing references. I think this has been used in air crash investigations to see the configuration of the plane in a video that was too far away to see those details in.

originally posted by: beyondknowledge

My evidence that it is Jupiter is based on the time, date, location, heading of plane, pointing of camera, etc.. from reports of the people that were actually there.

Very interesting.

Please provide us your evidence with exact details of

time,
date,
location,
heading of plane,
pointing of camera,
etc.

AND a list of the people who were actually there and a source.

originally posted by: A51Watcher

Makes me wonder how the atmospheric bands were arranged on Jupiter in 1978. The object does seem to have prominent horizontal features. Of course you'd lose a lot of the detail, such as any transiting moons. And the camera was not necessarily level or stable, and certainly not designed for astronomy. I don't know.

If anything, this diagram actually shows how similar the two things are, rather than different.

a reply to: A51Watcher

I have posted all this information already in the videos that I presented as sources for the evidence on the first page of this thread. Shall I provide a link back to it on this thread?

The videos are from interviews of the people from the sightings, maps of the flight courses, and time data from those videos. Plug the data into Stellarium and look for yourself. Do some navigational investigation and see what the camera man was pointing the camera at. I told you what this film is of and you still don't believe that it is possible.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: A51Watcher

Makes me wonder how the atmospheric bands were arranged on Jupiter in 1978. The object does seem to have prominent horizontal features. Of course you'd lose a lot of the detail, such as any transiting moons. And the camera was not necessarily level or stable, and certainly not designed for astronomy. I don't know.

If anything, this diagram actually shows how similar the two things are, rather than different.

Well we will have to agree to disagree. Even your perceived similarity does not explain the movement of black dots from one frame to the next. 1/30 of a second to be precise. And Jupters great red spot is nowhere near the size of the one in the image.