Ukrainian 737 down in Iran

New video of Ukrainian plane crash debris emerge.
Longest video I've seen so far. Not even going to speculate as so many theories already circulating.
The number of Canadian citizens killed was lowered to 57 from 63.

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Article linked to tweet: Reuters

Article shows a pic of the FDR(?).

a reply to: Zaphod58

what is you take on the idea of the NAVY accidentally shooting down flight 800?

its hard to just ignore lots of people that saw a high speed light catch up to and explode by flight 800.....the so called 'fireworks'

and this new case is so obviously a SAM intercept that i dont know why people are questioning if a missile of some sort hit the aircraft, the video is pretty damning.

i hope we get some real comprehensive answers

a reply to: penroc3

Pretty remote. The claim was that they fired at a P-3 as part of an exercise and missed. There was also the claim they were hit by a cruise missile the Navy fired, that penetrated the cabin.

How interesting. This should be the top story on ATS, but it isn't.

Another civilian airliner got shot down by a missile...oh well. 150+ humans died...oh well.

Within a day, when the cause is found...it's.... "Move on people, nothing to see here"

Honestly pretty sad. A lot of people here on ATS worked pretty hard to find the cause, and did so before the MSM.

Now...silence...crickets.

I guess those people didn't matter.

There were 10 departures between midnight and 0612, when PS752 departed. The last flight was Qatar 8408, a 777-200LR to Hong Kong at 0539.

www.flightradar24.com...

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

This is the other side of NIMBY. It happened halfway around the world, to people that don't affect our lives, in an event that has no bearing on the average person.

Think i just saw on tv Iran said they have shoot the plane by error !!!

www.ctvnews.ca...

a reply to: Dolby_X

Iran says it unintentionally shot down the Ukrainian plane that crashed outside of Tehran on Wednesday killing 176 people.

In a statement from Iran's Armed Forces General Staff, it is said that the plane was "accidentally hit by a human error".

www.newshub.co.nz...

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: FredT

He's not wrong. I remember hearing that too. The first boats on scene said the smell of decay was almost overpowering, and many of the bodies were naked.

Can you post more info on this? I would like to read.

a reply to: HUSARIA

I've periodically tried to find it again without much success. There are posts on various message boards talking about it, and you can find the odd picture of the bodies in the water, but not much beyond that.

a reply to: Zaphod58

I know, but still.

a reply to: HUSARIA

Wouldn't take long at all for dead bodies floating in water, under the hot sun, to be in a pretty advanced state of decay.

Not to be disrespectful to those killed, but throw a dead fish into a bucket of room temperature water and set it on your lawn out in the sun for a few hours.

Besides, why would anyone try to stage such an event?

So they have admitted then.
Isnt that the country that wants to have its own nuclear armed missile program?
"Sorry one of our nuclear missile teams got confused and panicked, then hit the big red button. We accidentally reduced your countries major city to radioactive glass and ash".
Not really grounds for having confidence in them or trust now is it?

a reply to: thebozeian

Well, unfortunately, they're not the only ones who have done it by accident.

Look into Iran Air 655. The US has done it too. So have the Russians (KAL 007), more than once, as have others.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
The US has done it too. So have the Russians (KAL 007), more than once, as have others.

Indeed. However, the Russian are the only ones who have denied all involvement in the shooting down of an airliner, even though the evidence is incontrovertible. Luckily Iran has chosen not to follow Russia's example.

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: HUSARIA

Wouldn't take long at all for dead bodies floating in water, under the hot sun, to be in a pretty advanced state of decay.

Not to be disrespectful to those killed, but throw a dead fish into a bucket of room temperature water and set it on your lawn out in the sun for a few hours.

Besides, why would anyone try to stage such an event?

Almost all of them were naked though. thats not normal. And they were there withing a hour or so. They staged it so We would Leave the area to avoid another "accident"

a reply to: Zaphod58

knew it.

and so did most of the world.

they even know it was 2 tor missiles that were shot at it.


ETA: i heard a rumor they found the nozzles from one of them

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: HUSARIA

Wouldn't take long at all for dead bodies floating in water, under the hot sun, to be in a pretty advanced state of decay.

Not to be disrespectful to those killed, but throw a dead fish into a bucket of room temperature water and set it on your lawn out in the sun for a few hours.

Besides, why would anyone try to stage such an event?

well depending on the speed of the aircraft at the time of break up and how close the passengers were to the baste wave it would be shocking to see them with anything not physically attached to their bodes.

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CDC report on close blast effects on human bodies

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over pressure and wind speed caused by the blast wave plus the air s[peed of the aircraft and the fact clothing is flammable and not usually up to air speeds over 400mph they likely burned off in an instant or were just ripped off.



i have pictures that i traded someone(real pics, like on kodak paper) of a bunker that got hit with a thermometric weapon and there wasn't anything biological bigger than DNA in the room....oh and random shadows where people were standing and equip,ment blocked the scoring/burning of the walls)

it only takes a few PSI of over pressure and about 100mph wind speed and there wouldn't be anything left on your body like your eyes, lower jaw arms, legs AND CLOTHING

edit on 12-1-2020 by penroc3 because: (no reason given)

Came across this article about how OSINT made the Iranians admit to the downing of the flight.

www.wired.co.uk...

According to the article it seems that the Iranians bulldozed the area already.

Claims on social media that who ever took the video of the aircraft being shot down has been id'd and arrested?

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