Six Minutes of Weird , Evangelicals Pray with Trump

originally posted by: gortex

originally posted by: TrustedTruth
a reply to: gortex

I'm not religious... but I pray for you..

may you find peace.. in tiis ime or of pesonall utter turmoil..

The magic won't work if you're not religious so save yourself the bother but rest assured I'm not in turmoil , it seems that ended when Boris Johnson won a majority and set us on course to leave the EU in a few weeks... time will tell.

As for Trump , I reserve the right to comment on Trump and his contradictions as a citizen of the planet and member of this site.

There is turmoil, else you would not feel the need to express it so.

And my friend, the best of intention towards you to help, rather than hinder it, and show to you at least not every person who does support Trump is not a devil nor evil.

I do support Trump, despite him not having any power over me in my country, that the I see who is strong and person who is making who is a difference in the face of adversity, willingly strong in the face of adverse hatred.


Not someone to mock and belittle. A man who can stand in the face of pure hate, and still accomplish his goals.

Take from that what you will..

a reply to: silo13

So 'weird' was your word?

Sums it up , no ?

Coming from a guy who says 'I don't have a problem with religion...' Wow, what are you afraid of man?

Look back in history , if you don't learn the lessons ......

Sounds like 'hate speech' to me.

Sounds like fascism to me.

God Bless America!

And all who sail in her.

You don't have to pick unnecessary fights to be great , Bush learned that lesson Trump is edging closer to it.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Iran didn't start the fire. The US did. Now either let the middle east duke it out on their own, or control the fire.

You want more american deaths it seems.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

You're basing your claims on a globalist conspiracy theory.

The us in the middle east is real, see the difference?

Yes very weird religious people praying; supper supper weird... and Trump was the topic of the praying at an event where he is the topic; what is wrong with these weird weird people?

a reply to: TritonTaranis

I disagree. I think America should be a nation for all religions. Also, i used race as another example of identity that is often used. It was just an example and wasn't trying to call you racist.

Why does this have to be a Christian nation? Seems like that goes against the core idea of supporting freedom of all religions.

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: Lagomorphe

In my opinion, god should be taken out of law. However, that's probably not going to happen. At least God could mean any God right? Although, im sure the founders were thinking of the Christian God.

Then again, the idea that you are swearing to God might get a few god-fearing folk to be honest.

Despite what many want to say to the contrary, history is pretty clear that the founding fathers were very aware of the problems with mixing religion & government. The religious restrictions in the colonies were all over the place: in some you had to be Catholic to serve in office, in others you could not be; the list goes on.

Deism was a big influence at the time. So some had a belief in a “God,” but it was a belief informed by a number of different schools of thought going around during the enlightenment, not necessarily the Judeo-Christian God.

I’m a religious person myself, but I’m very glad they built in the separation of church & state.

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: TritonTaranis

I'm not a muslim and I dislike islam more than christianity. Partisan thinking much? Seen a lot if that lately.. If i even remotely share a "leftist" opinion then all my other opinions are of a liberal lefty!

And for the rest of your post...Sounds like religious warfare to me. Muslims do just fine here. It's the mass migration of islamic folk into small areas that usually end up creating issues from what ive seen. Not sure there is an actual agenda , but rather just a culture clash with islamic folk who haven't lived in a multi-cultural society.

The problem isn't the immigrants. The problem is the white people who assume that every single Muslim is a terrorist sleeper cell. Where I live it is extremely multicultural and the only people who have an issue with it are white people. I've personally experience two mass migrations. Somalian refugees in the 90s and Syrian refugees currently. Nothing extraordinary happened except for the sudden rise of frothy mouthed racist white people claiming all sorts of nonsense that never happens.

originally posted by: valiant
a reply to: gortex

I find this and evangelicals cringe worthy, creepy and cult like! I'm not anti God either, I come from a Catholic family, went to Church, went to Catholic School, pray every day of my life, But what always got to me is how they portray themselves and how they think of themselves, but then have this ugly nastiness about them, i've seen more empathy in a pebble than I have witnessed in a lot of religious folk in my life.

As I understand it, he promised to bring back "prayer in public school"... and I believe he means "only Protestant Prayer."

originally posted by: Byrd

originally posted by: valiant
a reply to: gortex

I find this and evangelicals cringe worthy, creepy and cult like! I'm not anti God either, I come from a Catholic family, went to Church, went to Catholic School, pray every day of my life, But what always got to me is how they portray themselves and how they think of themselves, but then have this ugly nastiness about them, i've seen more empathy in a pebble than I have witnessed in a lot of religious folk in my life.

As I understand it, he promised to bring back "prayer in public school"... and I believe he means "only Protestant Prayer."

Many in the evangelical community would love it if he did, but they’re up against the constitution, separation clause, court precedents, etc.

I attended Catholic high school; we prayed all the time, had all-school masses, etc. It was quite nice.

But public schools are supported by tax payer dollars, & prayer of any kind would certainly make plenty of people uneasy. The government is a secular institution, and so are public schools.

I’ve heard people suggest that things would be better if we put “Gawd” back in schools. (As if the almighty’s presence can be legislated.)

This speaks to a larger issue: evangelicals—older evangelicals in particular—are convinced Trump is going to be the president who not only took their vote, but did something with it—namely stacking the courts with young judges who will overturn Roe v Wade & put LGBTQ folks back in a closet.
Thus, they’re willing to turn a blind eye to all kinds of behavior that was a moral outrage under Clinton.

The challenge is that they’re undermining their own moral standards & ability to speak authoritatively in the future. They’re also turning off a lot of younger religious people who tend to see the LGBTQ thing in a different light & also put stock in other issues—poverty, homelessness, embracing the immigrant/outcast, being good stewards of the planet, etc.

originally posted by: underwerks
“To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God”

The literal words of his bat###% crazy spiritual adviser.

Go ahead, support this.

That’s the words of a supporter, a religious one

That’s not Trumps political policy, you’re attacking a religious person on what they’ve personally said and using that to say see... don’t vote for Trump?

Or am I wrong?

originally posted by: MonkeyFishFrog

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: TritonTaranis

I'm not a muslim and I dislike islam more than christianity. Partisan thinking much? Seen a lot if that lately.. If i even remotely share a "leftist" opinion then all my other opinions are of a liberal lefty!

And for the rest of your post...Sounds like religious warfare to me. Muslims do just fine here. It's the mass migration of islamic folk into small areas that usually end up creating issues from what ive seen. Not sure there is an actual agenda , but rather just a culture clash with islamic folk who haven't lived in a multi-cultural society.

The problem isn't the immigrants. The problem is the white people who assume that every single Muslim is a terrorist sleeper cell. Where I live it is extremely multicultural and the only people who have an issue with it are white people. I've personally experience two mass migrations. Somalian refugees in the 90s and Syrian refugees currently. Nothing extraordinary happened except for the sudden rise of frothy mouthed racist white people claiming all sorts of nonsense that never happens.

The problem isn’t immigrants

The problem is communists using immigration as a political tool

Hence it must stop and return to skill based merit based system since the far left love to play the racist card so much, like you

There are many well established social and financial problems with “mass immigration” also, but that’s for another time and date

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Trump aligns with whoever he must align with, he panders to certain groups like all politicians do, and in private he laughs at the ignorance of those groups.

Rest assured that when the rubber meets the road, he and his son-in-law wear their yarmulke at the appropriate times.

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: underwerks
“To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God”

The literal words of his bat###% crazy spiritual adviser.

Go ahead, support this.

That’s the words of a supporter, a religious one

That’s not Trumps political policy, you’re attacking a religious person on what they’ve personally said and using that to say see... don’t vote for Trump?

Or am I wrong?

I’m attacking both. The supporter for being crazy enough to believe that, and Trump by validating it by appointing her to an official White House position.

Jesus would have chased these people out of the temple with a whip.

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: TritonTaranis

I disagree. I think America should be a nation for all religions. Also, i used race as another example of identity that is often used. It was just an example and wasn't trying to call you racist.

Why does this have to be a Christian nation? Seems like that goes against the core idea of supporting freedom of all religions.

So let’s theorise something,

Continue with Islamic immigration, let’s say to 40% 50% ?

You’ll become Israel

A country that lives in a state of never ending war

Of course not all Muslims are terrorists that’s just not logical

But then you have political Islam, much like those ME countries that had Islamic Revolutions

You think it won’t cause war and spell the end for the USA, I think you’re deluded

It’s evident to see through simply observing the Middle East, is real, and India/Pakistan

Next let’s try mix communism with capitalism and observe the hundreds of millions who died there

You lunatics are playing with fire

Lol unreal, what you’re describing is a venerable divided fail state

Prefer to live in a Islamic religious country, the world has Islamic religious countries for you, want to live in a far
Left communist authoritarian country, move to China, the world is abundant with diversity, or is it because they don’t look like you and you wouldn’t feel like you’d fit in in those countries which best suit your ideology?

Why not try and make them change to fit in with you and see how you get treated in Islamic or communist countries

The penny will drop for you radical leftists then, I hope

a reply to: TrustedTruth

Respect must be earned. Adverse effects are part of life.

A leader must earn his respect. So far, DJT has not earned any respect from me.

I've read books about DJT's early life, and remember much of it when it was happening. Like the NJ Generals

Now the dumb bastard has started another war, as he accused Obama of doing.

Don't know whether to laugh or cry department.

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: underwerks
“To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God”

The literal words of his bat###% crazy spiritual adviser.

Go ahead, support this.

That’s the words of a supporter, a religious one

That’s not Trumps political policy, you’re attacking a religious person on what they’ve personally said and using that to say see... don’t vote for Trump?

Or am I wrong?

I’m attacking both. The supporter for being crazy enough to believe that, and Trump by validating it by appointing her to an official White House position.

Jesus would have chased these people out of the temple with a whip.

I know what you’re saying. Modern Pharisees & Sadducees... Selectively obsessed with certain points of the law but turning a blind eye to the needs of so many others.

originally posted by: gortex
You are blinded by your black and white view of the world , there is more to politics than just left and right there's also right and wrong.

And the left now decides what is right or wrong based on what works for them at any given moment. The Righteous Left, now there is a oxymoron if I have ever seen one.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: TrustedTruth

Respect must be earned. Adverse effects are part of life.

A leader must earn his respect. So far, DJT has not earned any respect from me.

I've read books about DJT's early life, and remember much of it when it was happening. Like the NJ Generals

Now the dumb bastard has started another war, as he accused Obama of doing.

Don't know whether to laugh or cry department.

Which dumb bastards have started a war?

How was it started ?

originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: TritonTaranis

originally posted by: underwerks
“To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God”

The literal words of his bat###% crazy spiritual adviser.

Go ahead, support this.

That’s the words of a supporter, a religious one

That’s not Trumps political policy, you’re attacking a religious person on what they’ve personally said and using that to say see... don’t vote for Trump?

Or am I wrong?

I’m attacking both. The supporter for being crazy enough to believe that, and Trump by validating it by appointing her to an official White House position.

Jesus would have chased these people out of the temple with a whip.

Jesus would have chased these people out of the temple with a whip

But aided with those wilfully bringing those who hate his religion while mocking him as a fake prophet, massacring Christians all over the world

Righttttttt

Righttttttt

Logic just broke