Could relatives of measles virus jump from animals to us?

So, what's stopping animal morbilliviruses cropping up in humans?

"A major factor is likely to be pre-existing immunity, where natural infection or vaccination against measles provides a pool of antibodies, some of which cross-react and prevent infection by non-human morbilliviruses", explained Dr Bailey.

But, as vaccination rates fall, we will continue to see major outbreaks of measles, and this will give other morbilliviruses, like CDV, the chance to explore a new human host.

Could relatives of measles virus jump from animals to us?

This is not meant to be a vaxer versus anti-vaxer thread. There are plenty of those if you look.

Just a look at one of the many things we have in this existence that could wipe out human civilization on this world, in very short order. Plenty of doom porn here, from the macro to the micro everything is out to get us.

What can the human race possibly do to avoid being erased from the cosmos?


So, Happy New Year Stay safe out there

I do my part by hunting and cooking all my meat.

a reply to: Anathros

I hope it is not

Zombie Deer.

We have immunity to some of the diseases animals get. We may be protected because when you are a kid, you actually create innate immunity which is much better than antigen based immunity. They are trying to design vaccines that give this immunity that can track down all subtypes similar to what you get when you get the flu or a virus like measles or Chicken pox. The vaccines presently do not work correctly to give us good protection, in fact getting immunity naturally can lead to life long immunity that includes identifying other viruses and automatically responding properly to kill them.

Trouble is, we live symbiotically with many viruses, if you wage war against them we could wind up losing their support to fight diseases. The immune system is very complicated, I am not sure that the vaccination approach that is being pushed on us is the right way to go. There is lots of research into how the immune system works and vaccinations presently do not fit into proper operation of our immune system response.

If people want to get vaccinated, they can do that but I wish that medical science would come right out and tell people how present vaccines are not that good. I am sure that the pharma companies are not going to admit it, neither is the FDA or CDC. They will not admit they were pushing a scam on people. The only way some of these vaccines protect some people from viruses is by depleting the immune system chemicals so people can't have a severe reaction to something, but that can lead to multiple diseases in those with too low immune system chemistries.

a reply to: rickymouse

I had the German measles, chickenpox and probably other viruses they are giving kids vaxes for these days. I think I have had a more sickness free life because I had those viruses.

If you read the link in the OP. Even if they wipe out the measles they may still give kids the vax. It's almost like these deadly viruses have a purpose for being.

If we do ever reach the point of having a measles-free world, then we'll have to think very carefully about how best to stop its relatives hopping on board.

Some think that continued use of the measles vaccine might be sufficient to protect against a possible jump into humans by CDV, but Prof Cosby isn't as convinced:

Nothing will stop the eventual destruction of the human species. We live on a ball of dirt surrounded by a large void in which we cannot exist without artificial support - we are basically addicted to this planet.

We float around a giant ball of nuclear fusion that will inevitable engulf this planet and most of the solar system, that is while it's not trying to give us cancer or burn us to death with ultra violet sun beams.

Where will we go after this? Mars? It's gone too. Beyond? we will only have our distant ancestors who ever make it, and to where... another place to await the same inevitable fate.

That is, if we do not create a virus so virulent that we decimate ourselves into extinction ala some apocalyptic virus/zombie movie. Or destroy ourselves with the very technology we seek to improve.

But for now, I'm okie dokie.. I ain't worried about them monkey measles..

originally posted by: TrustedTruth
Nothing will stop the eventual destruction of the human species. We live on a ball of dirt surrounded by a large void in which we cannot exist without artificial support - we are basically addicted to this planet.

We float around a giant ball of nuclear fusion that will inevitable engulf this planet and most of the solar system, that is while it's not trying to give us cancer or burn us to death with ultra violet sun beams.

Where will we go after this? Mars? It's gone too. Beyond? we will only have our distant ancestors who ever make it, and to where... another place to await the same inevitable fate.

That is, if we do not create a virus so virulent that we decimate ourselves into extinction ala some apocalyptic virus/zombie movie. Or destroy ourselves with the very technology we seek to improve.

But for now, I'm okie dokie.. I ain't worried about them monkey measles..

Umm.. Happy New Year?

originally posted by: Anathros

originally posted by: TrustedTruth
Nothing will stop the eventual destruction of the human species. We live on a ball of dirt surrounded by a large void in which we cannot exist without artificial support - we are basically addicted to this planet.

We float around a giant ball of nuclear fusion that will inevitable engulf this planet and most of the solar system, that is while it's not trying to give us cancer or burn us to death with ultra violet sun beams.

Where will we go after this? Mars? It's gone too. Beyond? we will only have our distant ancestors who ever make it, and to where... another place to await the same inevitable fate.

That is, if we do not create a virus so virulent that we decimate ourselves into extinction ala some apocalyptic virus/zombie movie. Or destroy ourselves with the very technology we seek to improve.

But for now, I'm okie dokie.. I ain't worried about them monkey measles..

Umm.. Happy New Year?

To paraphrase A Clockwork Orange;

Irish Drunk: "Can ye spare some cutter me brothers?"

*the gang proceed to poke at the drunk with their canes*

Irish Drunk: "Go on, do me in, you bastards like this, I don't want to live in a stinking happy new year like this."

Alex: "Oh, and what's so stinking about it?"

Irish Drunk: "There is no law and order."


Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
and never brought to mind?
Should auld acquaintance be forgot,
and auld lang syne?

For auld lang syne, my jo,
for auld lang syne,
we'll tak a cup o' kindness yet,
for auld lang syne.

And surely ye'll be your pint-stowp!
and surely I'll be mine!
And we'll tak a cup o' kindness yet,
for auld lang syne.

We twa hae run about the braes,
and pu'd the gowans fine;
But we've wander'd mony a weary foot,
sin auld lang syne.

We twa hae paidl'd i' the burn,
frae morning sun till dine;
But seas between us braid hae roar'd
sin auld lang syne.

And there's a hand, my trusty fiere!
and gie's a hand o' thine!
And we'll tak a right gude-willy waught,
for auld lang syne.

For auld lang syne, my jo,
for auld lang syne,
we'll tak a cup o' kindness yet,
for auld lang syne.

And surely ye'll be your pint-stowp!
and surely I'll be mine!
And we'll tak a cup o' kindness yet,
for auld lang syne.

Bah Humbug

signed, the New Years Grinch.

I think we would have way less problems if our ancestors had just let viruses run their course. The offspring would have been born of those who were immune or just lucky. We might not have had to deal with so-called super viruses, or at least the viruses themselves wouldn't have evolved to be resistant.

Probably the same for warning labels.