Are The Jesuit - Catholic Democrats On a suicide Mission from God and Need Enlightenment?

There seems to be something up here that is simply weird. Back in 2012 at the DNC Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina., God was brought up and was subsequently booed loudly by the crowd at the convention. I know because I watched it live on TV. So first of all let’s look at some of the players. In play we have the from behind the curtains guy in Tom Perez. The DNC chairman born in Buffalo, New York. Tom was raised as a Jesuit and graduated from a private and expensive; Canisius High School in Buffalo, New York. Here are some snippets from his bio.

New Democratic Party leader Tom Perez has deep Jesuit connections:

“A member of the Society of Jesus, a Roman Catholic order of priests founded by St. Ignatius Loyola, St. Francis Xavier, and others in 1534, to do missionary work. The order was zealous in opposing the Reformation. Despite periodic persecution it has retained an important influence in Catholic thought and education”

“The fiery side came out, for example, in a 2013 speech at an AFL-CIO convention in Los Angeles in which Perez declared that it was "God's will" that the liberal agenda be enacted. It was Perez's first major address since becoming labor secretary under President Obama”

Perez Radical Religious Side

Jesuits are extremely loyal and follow Jesus Christ. Tom Perez graduated from Canisius High School. It’s extremely religious and has deep connections to the Catholic church. His election as DNC Chair seems to go against the 2012 God boo in Charlotte. So what about New York States Governor? As in all things Andrew Cuomo as in the guy who allowed illegal aliens to obtain NYS driver’s license in New York State. He’s a Catholic just like his CNN Brother Chris Coumo who seems to rant about President Rump daily. I often wonder about him as he seems to be disingenuous and somewhat of an absolute liar on occasion.

Let’s follow up the ongoing destruction of New York State with another state in crisis; California. Yep you guessed it. California’s Governor is another Catholic. Gavin Newsom who also defies Trump and the citizens of the USA by supporting illegal immigrants and everything wrong with law and order. He also has some strange stuff written about him.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom, another Catholic Quick-Change Artist In A Bloodied Costume


Nancy Pelosi, who led a sham of an impeachment against Trump who basically is not affiliated with any religion. I mean so can we trust her? Absolutely NOT! So let’s read what is written about this Catholic.

Nancy Pelosi, Boasting of her Devout Catholic faith, is a Heretic
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So what about AOC as in Alexandria Ocasio Cortez. Yep you guessed it; Catholic. Yet she runs around claiming shes Jewish. OK

“Ocasio-Cortez was born into a Catholic family in the Bronx borough of New York City on October 13, 1989, the daughter of Blanca Ocasio-Cortez (née Cortez) and Sergio Ocasio”

Now let’s have a drum roll for the #1 player in the DNC for President; right here and right now as of December 28, 2019 its Uncle Joe Biden. Say what you want about some of his traits but my guess is that most are accepted habits. Yes, I do recall seeing him smell others hair and yes, there is the groping of cute young girls and yes, Jeff Sessions did swat his hand from touching Sessions child but at the end of the day? So you guessed it. He’s Catholic. So what about Hunter? Joes already deep tanked him off the Christmas card.

So look at all of the above and let’s see where this is heading. Are they all under some sort of satanic control or are they just extreme zealots groomed since birth in the Jesuit - Catholic ways and means. I don’t know. In my opine it can go both ways as based on my life experience living among them as not one of them it can be their normal behavior

What I do know is that as a Catholic who hasn’t attended church on a regular basis since my junior year in college, is that I fear and do not trust ALL religious zealot’s as in some of those described above. I also went through middle and high schools owned by bullies. They were the wealthy rich kids of Doctors, Lawyers, Politicians and Businessman; all of a certain religion. Take on one and you have to take on all the other 100 or more. They got the best of everything because we, the 99% were blocked out.

That’s why I will vote Trump 2020. Simply because hes not a religious zealot.

So prove me wrong!

I think a lot of their behavior is dominated by lust for power. Whatever any of them learned from traditional religion has been, in their minds, fenced off from the desires that motivate them today. It is hardly uncommon. I've known unpleasant people who were regular church-goers, but that meant little in terms of their daily interaction with other people.

Cheers

a reply to: Waterglass

What I do know is that as a Catholic who hasn’t attended church on a regular basis since my junior year in college, is that I fear and do not trust ALL religious zealot’s as in some of those described above.

That’s why I will vote Trump 2020.

You don’t trust religious zealots, so you’re going to vote for the person who surrounds themselves with religious zealots. And hires this woman as his official "spiritual advisor".



"To say no to President Trump would be saying no to God."

Her literal words from that clip.

I have a real hard time applying the “religious zealot” label to people who openly and aggressively push an agenda so deeply at odds with their professed religion. “Political zealot who happens to be catholic” seems more apt.

Or “token catholic.” Or cafeteria catholic.

a reply to: Waterglass

So if the Catholics reject trump, what should we do....a new inquisition sponsored by the evangelicals? what irony....

a reply to: Shamrock6

I call em as I see em but any alternate explanation is fine. I am just pointing out a trend among the data. Jesus also did not like Capitalism

a reply to: olaru12


The ones in office and in positions of power are the 1% Catholics. The BULLIES. The remaining 99% hopefully are the good guy and girl white hats. The good are always controlled by those in the money. Yes some crazy zealots among them hoping for the end of the world right here right now. I know I have met some. that's not what I want for this world.

Live long and Prosper

a reply to: underwerks

Trump always sells out to his highest Bidder. In business he has been conditioned to. Think, Kelly, Bolton, That Scary Guy, Graham, Mitch and Et Al? Its his MO since 1990. Didn't some person of INTEL way beyond you and me say to:

It's not too often that Sun Tzu, the brilliant Chinese military strategist and Al Pacino of “The Godfather” give the same wise business advice: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. In other words, follow not only what your business partners are doing, but what your competitors are involved in as well.Dec 27, 2012

a reply to: Waterglass

You pointed out that there are Catholics in political positions. Like any other group, there are good Catholics and bad ones. Not exactly earth shattering “data” that there are bad Catholics in politics. The fact remains that those who push an aggressively liberal agenda find themselves at odds with catholic catechism, and one has to really stretch the term “religious zealot” to include them.

Unless one acknowledges that their true religion is liberalism, in which case I’d agree completely.

a reply to: Shamrock6

Unless one acknowledges that their true religion is liberalism, in which case I’d agree completely.

Think abut it?

1.Assume they are Religious zealots.
2. Jesus Christ was a Zealot.
3. Jesus Christ challenged all
4. When you revisit the teachings of Jesus along with Catholic themes Matthew 5:5; such as the meek shall inherit the earth I would think of Jesus as a Liberal.

originally posted by: Waterglass
Jesus also did not like Capitalism

Which is why pretty much all Christian churches, regardless of the denomination, are socialist constructs.

Go tithe some more, Jesus needs your cash.

Many believe that trump is "the chosen" "the annointed one" I guess that's what we have to look forward to....seems a little scary to me.


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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

As a Catholic other than asking all giving is voluntary. Plus they also don't chase you down the street like Jehovah Witness. So it keeps that well oiled machine just humming along. So replace the displaced whiteys with Catholic Latino Nation from South America. Hmm mass migration?

Seems that Muslims get a good deal at 2.5% of Income. I know that some Christans want 10%

Zakat requires Muslims to donate 2.5% of their wealth: could this end poverty? Estimated at almost $2tn in 2015, Islamic finance is often overlooked by development organisations as a potential source of funds

originally posted by: Waterglass
As a Catholic other than asking all giving is voluntary.

It's 'voluntary' but they do remind you if you haven't given, I've been there, they kept tabs in CCD on who came and gave. It's all guilt and bull**** used to control you.

a reply to: Waterglass

1. I’ve stated my opinion on labeling them religious zealots twice now. I’m not assuming anything for the sake of helping your assertion.

2. That’s your opinion. If one argues that Jesus was uncompromising in his ideals and beliefs and therefore was a zealot, it becomes even more difficult to apply the same label to politicians who advance a political agenda completely at odds with their religion.

3. Okay.

4. Applying 21st century political labels to somebody who lived a couple millennia ago is absurd, and can be done by either side of the political debate with equal ease.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

All religions are just like a DNC or RNC party! That's what it is so do a deep dive into the subject title. That's the agenda. How about I toss Comet Ping Pong in play. The owner is also from Buffalo, NY. Hmm do we want to go there?

a reply to: Waterglass

Go ahead, I love, love, love pizza.

a reply to: Waterglass

As a Catholic other than asking all giving is voluntary.

You must not have paid a ton of attention in church. Canon law states that Catholics are obligated to support the church in a material way. The obligation is “to the best of their ability” rather than a specific percentage of income, but it is very much not voluntary.

Where does all this evangelical support leave the Jews? Asking for a friend.
I read somewhere that the Jews were Gods chosen people. Is that true?

Go see "Uncut Gems"

a reply to: Shamrock6

Too philosophical. Jesus is as Jesus was. Obviously he was a threat to those in power and was executed. Who knows what went on back in the day. You asked me a question about considering him a liberal.

Based on what is written it seems that to me he was a liberal religious zealot. Those all in DNC Political positions in my thread could also be too and thus their policies.

That's my point of the thread so what say you as you something about the Roman Empire. [NO] [YES]?