Who is being manipulated? Greta or us....

a reply to: oloufo

And kids also eat tide pods, snort condoms and vape detergent.

I don't think basing the ones who did achieve great things (apart from getting pregnant, even stupid people at 16 can do that) is any reference to the intelligence of an autistic puppet being manipulated by people with an agenda, knowing that using a child as their method of pushing it, will entice people to stand with her. Not because she's necessarily right, but because, you know, virtue signalling.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: dfnj2015

Cool, I’m ready to switch. What do I put in my truck instead of gas?

Get an electric or hybrid vehicle.

In many European countries, governments give advantages like free parking and reduced transport taxes if you buy an electric or hybrid vehicle. They are actively pursuing the hydrogen economy and trying to get the gas guzzlers out of service.

are electric and hybrid vehicles free from causing environmental issues? Or are they just different problems?

science.howstuffworks.com...

And yes, I read it.

There are additional environmental concerns related to those rare earth metals, like those used in the magnets of hybrid batteries. In recent years, rare earth metals like lithium have been imported almost exclusively from China, which was able to lower its prices enough to monopolize the industry [source: Strickland]. One of the reasons China could sell lithium so cheaply was because it widely ignored environmental safeguards during the mining process. In the Bayan Obo region of China, for example, miners removed topsoil and extracted the gold-flecked metals using acids that entered the groundwater, destroying nearby agricultural land. Even the normally tight-lipped Chinese government admitted that rare earth mining has been abused in some places. A regulator at the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology in China went so far as to tell The New York Times, "This has caused great harm to the ecology and environment"

But as long as it's China that's raping the land, it's all wine and roses.

And those batteries turn into unicorns and fly away once they are spent.

It's sad that you would spew such garbage rather than admit we aren't quite there yet.

Firstly, I said that they produced less CO2 than internal combustion engines. No one claims hybrids and EV's are entirely benign. Just less damaging.

But, how can hybrids and electric vehicles be causing problems if, as Trump has assured us, fossil fuels and even coal are "beautiful and clean"?

Can't you see the cognitive dissonance there?

But the batteries can be recycled or repurposed. Perhaps after extracting the rare earth minerals from the ground in the first place, they could be re-buried? I mean, they came from there in the first place.

Oh, and please tell me more about the "magnets of hybrid batteries" the term is new to me.

two things champ, one, WTF does Trump have to do with the fact that we aren't ready to move from fossil fuels yet? and two, please put town the bong before you type. who said anything about magnets of hybrid batteries?

Oh, and we use Uranium to power reactors, it comes from the ground, why not just bury it when we are done. Derp. I'll let you do the math on why that was super derp worthy.

And another creepy thread pops up about Greta. Seriously, jealousy can only go so far! Move on!

She is being manipalated, she is mentally retarded, she is the antichrist, she is working for the new world order blah blah blah

No evidence for any of these of course! Just trump fanatics mostly!

That is a false dichotomy It does not have to be either/or. Both can be in the process of being manipiulated to achieve several goals.

originally posted by: dfnj2015

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: eletheia

I never gave a crap about what she said, whatever it was.

For someone who never heard her speak you sure have strong opinions about what she is saying!

Anywhere outside prepared talks ( written FOR her - her only work is memorizing them) she fails at basic questions/debates. She is absolutely a puppet.

You seem totally unfazed about her bold-faced lie about her "misery on a packed train complete with staged photo of St-Greta on the floor" while the reality was that she was in FIRST CLASS.

Do you actually pick up on obvious lies ?

Who pays for her global travels in FIRST CLASS, you think ?


Greta is the intellectual equivalent of McDonalds for the gullible.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: dfnj2015

Cool, I’m ready to switch. What do I put in my truck instead of gas?

Get an electric or hybrid vehicle.

In many European countries, governments give advantages like free parking and reduced transport taxes if you buy an electric or hybrid vehicle. They are actively pursuing the hydrogen economy and trying to get the gas guzzlers out of service.

are electric and hybrid vehicles free from causing environmental issues? Or are they just different problems?

science.howstuffworks.com...

And yes, I read it.

There are additional environmental concerns related to those rare earth metals, like those used in the magnets of hybrid batteries. In recent years, rare earth metals like lithium have been imported almost exclusively from China, which was able to lower its prices enough to monopolize the industry [source: Strickland]. One of the reasons China could sell lithium so cheaply was because it widely ignored environmental safeguards during the mining process. In the Bayan Obo region of China, for example, miners removed topsoil and extracted the gold-flecked metals using acids that entered the groundwater, destroying nearby agricultural land. Even the normally tight-lipped Chinese government admitted that rare earth mining has been abused in some places. A regulator at the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology in China went so far as to tell The New York Times, "This has caused great harm to the ecology and environment"

But as long as it's China that's raping the land, it's all wine and roses.

And those batteries turn into unicorns and fly away once they are spent.

It's sad that you would spew such garbage rather than admit we aren't quite there yet.

Firstly, I said that they produced less CO2 than internal combustion engines. No one claims hybrids and EV's are entirely benign. Just less damaging.

But, how can hybrids and electric vehicles be causing problems if, as Trump has assured us, fossil fuels and even coal are "beautiful and clean"?

Can't you see the cognitive dissonance there?

But the batteries can be recycled or repurposed. Perhaps after extracting the rare earth minerals from the ground in the first place, they could be re-buried? I mean, they came from there in the first place.

Oh, and please tell me more about the "magnets of hybrid batteries" the term is new to me.

two things champ, one, WTF does Trump have to do with the fact that we aren't ready to move from fossil fuels yet? and two, please put town the bong before you type. who said anything about magnets of hybrid batteries?

Trump is trying to prop up the fossil fuel economy in the US, even suggesting that coal is "clean and beautiful". The world is moving on. Even in little backwater New Zealand, high fuel prices have driven a massive uptake in EV's and hybrids. The US has had vehicles like the Prius since 2007 and Volt for nearly a decade.

Electric Cars in Norway - Life in Norway website.

The article you posted a link to, and the section you directly quoted, both spoke of "magnets of hybrid batteries". It is clear that you didn't actually read the article or the OP.

Oh, and we use Uranium to power reactors, it comes from the ground, why not just bury it when we are done. Derp. I'll let you do the math on why that was super derp worthy.

Because most actinides are neither sufficiently chemically or radiologically inert after processing. But neither are most batteries.

I was being sarcastic about burying spent batteries, in my previous post, as evidenced by the there.

originally posted by: Jay-morris
And another creepy thread pops up about Greta. Seriously, jealousy can only go so far! Move on!

She is being manipalated, she is mentally retarded, she is the antichrist, she is working for the new world order blah blah blah

No evidence for any of these of course! Just trump fanatics mostly!

Don't forget funded by Soros...

originally posted by: LSU2018

You see, this is exactly why democrats love pushing a little kid who is only as smart as those who are brainwashing her. When someone calls her out or disagrees with her, the left can cry about bullying and pass the message to others to do that same. I think you're being manipulated, too.

Precisely.

Look beyond the girl and listen to the message.

"Government needs to do something about climate change and they need to do it now!"

What do you want government to do?

"I don't know, but they need to do something and they need to do it now otherwise we are all doomed!"

-------------

If I were to get on a soapbox and tell people that the world is doomed unless we give governments carte blanche to solve a problem, people would think I'm an idiot.

When the talking heads on the fake news do it, we know they are actors reading a script so we don't take them seriously.

When a politician says it, we know they are bought and paid for by special interests so we ignore them as they ignore us.

When a scientist says it, we ask for proof. I've seen more evidence to prove that UFOs are extraterrestrial aliens.

But when a teenage girl says it, not taking her seriously means you are attacking her. Why are you being so mean to this poor girl?

So, taking Ms. Thunberg out of the equation, is there anyone who truly believes that the best way to handle any problem is to give government free reign to conceive, develop, and implement the solution?

We tell the government we have a problem with poverty and homelessness. What do we get? The War on Poverty. Did that help?

We tell the government we have a problem with drugs. We get The War on Drugs. We have more problems with drugs, gangs, and crime than ever.

Don't get me started on The War on Terror.

When we are told we have a problem with gun violence, we are told the solution is to get rid of guns. Just the guns of the people, of course. Government holds on to their guns, as do criminals.

What do you think will be the solution when the government declares War on Climate Change? I can guarantee two things. First, solutions and sacrifices will not apply to the government or large corporations. The Army isn't going to park its tanks. The Air Force isn't going to ground its jets. Congressmen will still travel in luxury. Cargo ships will sail, airlines will fly, buses will run, etc.

Second, after the new laws and taxes are in place, we won't hear so much about Climate Change. Just like the gun violence problem. Get a gun ban in Chicago, and after that, no need to talk about gun violence in Chicago anymore. You play up stories elsewhere to get gun bans there.

i awoke this morning - to here that ms thunberg has a white knight who " verifies " her claim

its a jornalist - who was to quote the source " traveling with " ms thunberg

err - ok - i shall skip the fact that the defence cites a firrent train journey leg than the operator who complained that she was actually seated in 1st class - and the baggage that entails

instead i shal dwell on the question - how many people in her enterage ?

ms thunberg is already making pointless international travels - but to do it with a fooking enereage - including journalists - is to state the obvious - adding to the problem of overcrowded trains

it boggle the mind that climate activists need to travel to conferences - that COULD be done " tele-conference "

She’s a child still. She has no place on the world stage. She clearly enjoys creating attention as a victim. why mention it’s overcrowded or post a photo of being on the floor of the train if not to garner sympathy and project the image of being through harrowing struggle? She doesn’t know better and is just playing games. Funny the train points out her hypocrisy that she’s actually given first class accommodations. What’s more interesting, shouldn’t she WANT the trains to be over crowded, people using mass transit is more efficient and less pollution than other means of transit...

To answer your question, we are all being manipulated, Greta, we the people, the overlords, and everyone in between.


a reply to: eletheia

There are self claimed highly intelligent groups that put a lot of effort, time and money into someone like Greta.

From what she says to what she wears is discussed and agreed upon by these groups

And you can tell they are desperate since they came up with the idea to use young kid in Greta.
It gets more of a response, but it old works on low IQ people who cant see through the dramatics.

She is prime to be an actress, especially SNL.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: eletheia

Maybe she's not being manipulated at all and she is thinking for herself. And maybe the information she is talking about stands on its own.

Why do you think everyone is programmed by propaganda. Did it ever occur to you people are capable of drawing their own conclusions based on the evidence and their life experiences?

This may be the funniest post I have ever read lol. You CANNOT be THIS clueless!
Seek counseling asap.

originally posted by: Marktwang33

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: eletheia

Maybe she's not being manipulated at all and she is thinking for herself. And maybe the information she is talking about stands on its own.

Why do you think everyone is programmed by propaganda. Did it ever occur to you people are capable of drawing their own conclusions based on the evidence and their life experiences?

This may be the funniest post I have ever read lol. You CANNOT be THIS clueless!
Seek counseling asap.

Well, you have any evidence otherwise? No, did not think so! This is the problem here! People like you just cannot handle the fact that a child can achieve so much! Most of all the BS I read about her is just straight up jealousy! Nothing more!

Plus, seems like most of the people on here saying all the BS (without evidence) are Trump fanatics. Is that a coincidence?

Here is Greta without a prepared script. She looks lost and keeps saying talk to some one else . Even when she was asked what her message was to the world.

www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: illuminnaughty
Here is Greta without a prepared script. She looks lost and keeps saying talk to some one else . Even when she was asked what her message was to the world.

www.youtube.com...

Loll!!!!! Riveting stuff ...........

She's lost her script and spitting venom of "How dare you - you have stolen

my dreams and my childhood"

Greta should listen to Boyan Slat and do some real climate change work. Funny how she gets all the following and praise and yet who has heard of Boyan Slat?

www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: eletheia

originally posted by: illuminnaughty
Here is Greta without a prepared script. She looks lost and keeps saying talk to some one else . Even when she was asked what her message was to the world.

www.youtube.com...

Loll!!!!! Riveting stuff ...........

She's lost her script and spitting venom of "How dare you - you have stolen

my dreams and my childhood"

I do hopenotfearishwhatweneed was watching this..

I would have died inside having it find it again...

He did want evidence, but it was so obvious that I didn't feel the need to to sacrifice my own personal momentary sanity for it..

Here ya go, my brother...


Enjoy...

Unscripted puppets.

originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

originally posted by: Jay-morris
And another creepy thread pops up about Greta. Seriously, jealousy can only go so far! Move on!

She is being manipalated, she is mentally retarded, she is the antichrist, she is working for the new world order blah blah blah

No evidence for any of these of course! Just trump fanatics mostly!

Don't forget funded by Soros...

YOU DID!! YOU DID SEE IT!!!



Evidence provided, now come on.. admit it..

a reply to: gallop

Have you thought about ringing the Greta thunberg helpline?

Firstly she's not a child,(even if made to dress and appear like one) secondly she's achieved zero....her large team have achieved exactly what they wanted to achieve as have her parents
a reply to: Jay-morris