Ancient Monuments and Cities Buried Beneath the Oceans

I say it's the direct result of volcanic,earthquake activity, and some climate change on top.

Every civilization built near water sources.

As civilizations grew, trade grew right along side, and with it ports of call.

I am sure the oligarchs of the era were to blame though.

originally posted by: schuyler
None of this is exactly new. This guy essentially re-packages what Graham Hancock has been writing about for decades.

Cause this guy does it better?


I like this fella's videos. They feel more informative. I especially like his Atlantas videos.

Plagiarism? Seriously? If ya wanna take a dump, bathrooms are more efficient.

originally posted by: 727Sky

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: LABTECH767

Its a bit frightening when Ooparts are seen at the bottom of coal mines, because even if one of them is genuine. It seems to suggest that civilization reaches a certain point and then , it all collapses and the continents drift to other positions and bury the artifacts in deep deposits which take millions of years to form. Some of these items have good provenance, which is even more of a worry. It only takes one generation to loose the knowledge of all the technical gains.

Cosmic disaster and some are talking about it...True, False ? Evidently the CIA thought it was worth classifying . youtu.be...

The coverup youtu.be...

Unfortunately there will be few who will listen and watch and then make up their own mind.

The videos are basically talking about a recurring cycle that does a big reset for planet earth and all its' inhabitants

We have discussed this topic for years on ATS and the name of the Event is.....Cyclical Global Continental Displacement Wave Event......scheduled every 3657 years or so.....due IMHO in 2021.....research Gill Broussard for accurate timelines.

So the sea levels rose and humanity survived another day?


Wow!

a reply to: KKLOCO
Oh ya! The dude makes pretty good vids.

One thing about the ancients, though technically shouldn't call them ancients as all those societies and cities and towns were not that long ago really, that Greek and Phoenician outpost in Russia really not that long ago, and same with that Egyptian town.

But anyways. One thing about older societies. They liked to write in stone, because they thought it would pass the test of time.

I suppose more so then others, but nothing really passes the test of time. But stone will stand better in salt water then anything really. Most modern skyscrapers made of steel and dry concrete, salt water will eat through that in a few generations. Salt water goes through steel and iron like nothing, and the concrete?

Well, who here has driven through old roads that have been exposed to more rain then usual? Its usually a bumpy ride because its full of potholes, just from the rain and snow and regular wet weather, pretty sure constant flow of the ocean and the saltwater would eat through that pretty dam fast as well, if it all ended up submerged for thousands of years.

There is likely to be lots of junk out in the sea that once existed, which we will never ever see or hear about.

WOW, the contributions in this thread is overwhelming!

I’m halfway through the material presently posted. So much info, so little time.

Thank you for all the input, everyone! 🍻

Was reading another thread on here The Pukwudgie.

Which lead to another link about Native American stories of little people. (bear with me) Ancient tale of little people.

And got to this excerpt which I found interesting.

These Little People are spirits whose presence was known to many of the Southeastern indigenous nations, including the Choctaw, Muskogee (Creek), Seminole, Chickasaw, and Cherokee, among many others. One of the most popular Cherokee stories involving the Little People who came to the aid of humans is the story "The Daughter of the Sun," in which the Sun, jealous because humans couldn't look upon her without wincing from her brightness, sends her strongest light which burned humans and caused illness and death among the people. The humans hatch a plan to kill the Sun, and with the help of the Little People, send two snakes to bite the Sun. Instead, the snakes bite the Sun's daughter and she dies, causing the Sun to grieve and grieve and then the world turns bitterly cold and dark. Once again, the humans turn to the Little People who help them retrieve the Daughter of the Sun from Usunyihi, the Darkening Land. But when the daughter cries out, the humans are frightened and open the basket in which they've put her. The daughter escapes, turns into a redbird, and flies away. The sun, still grieving, refuses to leave her daughter's house and her tears create a great flood. Those that survive, again with the help of the Little People, send seven men and women, all great singers, dancers, and storytellers, to the Daughter of the Sun's house where they entertain the Sun until finally she stops crying and begins to smile, replenishing the earth once again.

Just another tale of ancient Earth changes I wasn't aware of...
Thought someone else might find it interesting too.

a reply to: KKLOCO The truth is if you were to dig down about 70 feet in areas just above coast's and find city's buried underneath,why do you think military bases are in supposed desolate areas like Area 51,there are city's from 300 yrs ago,the fertile farm land in mid west is the body's and topsoil of land washed away from prior inhabitants,this is not ancient history,we went from 360 days a year to 365 ,just a little more then 160 yrs ago,something happened and the true story isn't being told

originally posted by: Oldtimer2
(deleted)....we went from 360 days a year to 365 ,just a little more then 160 yrs ago,something happened and the true story isn't being told

Do tell what happened in 1859 or thereabouts concerning the calendar?

Folks in the 19th century and before didn't seem to know that they only had 360 days. Please explain.

a reply to: Hanslune

Do tell what happened in 1859 or thereabouts concerning the calendar? Folks in the 19th century and before didn't seem to know that they only had 360 days. Please explain.

Now then no need to be facetious probably a simple typo on the posters behalf. I am sure you are aware that many calendars around the world use to have 360 days in them. The reasons according to historians are still up for grabs. The truth of the matter is relatively simple. We use to have 360 days in the year.

That is why some tribes around the world still refuse to use the sun as a time teller. They no that this calibration can change.

Here in case you didn’t know. Here is a little reading material on the subject.

Archeologists have discovered that nearly all societies used a 360 day calendar until around the 8th century BC, which would be about the time of Hezekiah. Jewish tradition teaches that the calendar changed when he was king. The earth's orbit shifted from a 360 day cycle to a 365.25 day cycle.

messiahalive.com...

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: Hanslune

I wasn't talking to you but thanks for the laugh.

For lurkers: Look up the ancient Egyptian & Sumerian calender's.

AE=12 x 30 day months with a 5 day Intercalary, the Sumerian one was bit more complicated but 365 as was the Mayan.

a reply to: Hanslune

Not everyone is as well informed as yourself as you know, calendars were never my thing but I know that there invention was necessary for the early farming community's and even though perhaps even some hunter gatherer society may have had rudimentary methods of plotting the seasons the need for a real calendar was not there until human being's had to reliably predict when to cultivate there various crop variety's.

Other than that hunter gatherer society usually worked on observation of the season's and animal migration's as they occurred though from some early cave artifacts such as bone carving's some at least of those long passed ancestral periods had men with a very intricate, perhaps religiously motivated, observance of the sky's which of course may also have given rise to accurate marking of the passage of time and especially for prediction of recurrent celestial and terrestrial phenomena.

It seems these day's that we are constantly having to re-evaluate the accepted stance on just how advanced early human thought was and with interesting discovery's attributed to neanderthal man such as the - presumed - religious stone circles in the Bruniquel caves in frace estimated to be at least 47.600 years of age we also know that neanderthal man was not the slouch he was often wrongly portrayed as being, not only did he have a larger brain than us but it would appear that he used that brain rather more than we have given him credit for doing so.

So as unlikely as it may seem, as parieidolic (if I may coin that phrase - someone somewhere else probably already has) as it may be interpreted to be just perhaps there is more than a passing possibility that this could indeed have been a complex neanderthal site perhaps shaped by there hand's or perhaps simply used if they had the same ability to see faces and familiar forms in natural formations as we do - an ability that is actually a fundamental part of our creativity as a race.


And also while probably natural, if we ignore claim's of find's near it's base that is, this formation could be a statue as well, one that appears to be a woman, perhaps a queen or just ancient art from a long forgotten civilization or perhaps a grave marker, a crying woman lamenting the passing of an ancient world.


Now back to those calendars, we were not there, we have to take at there word those whom were and we usually accept that, were we get into trouble is were we accept those whom supposedly know thing's they could NEVER know but have only conjecture - educated conjecture - about the past there view's on that past as fixed and immutable fact's, could the earth have slowed in it's rotation - of course it could and indeed over the course of it's history it has if we accept current belief's about the nature of the solar system, could a planet's rotation be suddenly slowed by some event, yes it could but usually it is as a result of an impact event and one large enough to slow the earth would probably have to be a truly huge event.
If we go back to Velikovsky and his theory's about Venus then it would be possible that such an event as he predicted and believed was possible even if it has never been an accepted theory could also cause such an event.



Then of course there was the more recent and competing OR complementing depending on which you prefer exploding planet hypothesis in which Mars was postulated to be potentially a moon of the now lost planet that occupied the zone were the asteroid belt is today but some without reasoning about loss of material due to the vast difference in velocity's of the remnant's of such a destroyed world have tried to debunk by using the remaining material as an argument against claiming that the entire mass of the asteroid belt would not even create a planet as big as our moon without rationalizing the fact that the vast bulk of such a destruction would have entered elliptical orbit's and dispersed as a result of the event leaving only a tiny fraction of the lost planet's bulk at the correct orbital velocity's to form the band of debris we call the asteroid belt today.


My personal favorite view on that was by Dr Thomas Van Flandern whom has sadly since passed on along with his brilliant web site which then died as a result of his passing.
As you know he as a proponent of the theory that Mars WAS the former moon of a larger planet, perhaps even a super earth type planet that orbited were the asteroid belt is today, he believed that the destruction on one side of mars was proof of the exploding planet hypothesis AND even more heretical for such a well qualified scientist he also believed in ruin's on mars.


With Van Flandern's passing his detractors were able to breath easy as they no longer had to put up with intelligent debate for exactly the opposite of what they claimed to be the fact's about Mars.

If such a solar system shaking moment had occurred it is possible that it could very well have had an impact upon the earth, even slowing our rotation if a remnant of such a destruction that had enough gravitational force to affect our planet had passed close enough and perhaps even disrupting our season's and toppling our planet on it's Axis for a time if the affect was strong enough.

You see for the accepted paradigm of past event's to be true then our solar system has to be a lot less interesting then just perhaps it really has been, our planetary system has to have been a lot more stable than just perhaps it really has been and there has to have been no major event's that could have affected our world during a very long and predictable reverse projection of the mechanics of our solar system and especially how they may have affected our own planet during those time's but there just could have been and if there was then those smooth predictions are then thrown into disarray.

So shorter calendars within human history, while some early calendars were very inaccurate what if they were actually accurate at the time of there inception but not later due to phenomena affecting our planet at some level.

As you know there are a plethora of competing and sometime's fringe theory's such as the electric universe theory but in reality many of these theory's are NOT inferior to the current accepted model and even predict some thing's that have been since proved to be true but just like our own accepted current theorem they too fall short on occasion.
Some theory's are purely wrong, some are fine since all a theory is when all is said and done is a working MODEL from which we can predict and try to anticipate the universe of which they are a vastly over simplified model.
But they are all important in this respect.
Sadly however some people, even at the very top of there scientific professions' mistake theory for fact and as they are supposed to be the men in the know so to speak the majority of the people below them then accept it as fact when in actuality it is really just a model for prediction and proving of other theorem's which is then a house of card's if that is ever forgotten, real science however keep's it fluid and does not claim it is set in stone.
What we call laws of Physics for example may be actually variable and therefore they are not laws but variable states.

Sure. So let's all pretend that sea level rises, but land never sinks. Also, we can put on blinders so we can keep believing Yonaguni is a "construction" and that Nan Madol wasn't built in the Common Era.

Harte

originally posted by: Harte
Sure. So let's all pretend that sea level rises, but land never sinks. Also, we can put on blinders so we can keep believing Yonaguni is a "construction" and that Nan Madol wasn't built in the Common Era.

Harte

What no bad verse? I demand you inflict that here also if you are going to do it at the Unexplained Mysteries!

You left out that we should believe Posnansky was right, that the Piri Reis map was made by aliens, the Roman's just couldn't move heavy weights, and guys with power drills were roaming around the Andes just before the Spaniards showed up doing good rock deeds for the locals. That Sitchin had a gift, and the Vatican has the secret for anti-gravity in their Library labeled 'stuff''.

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Hanslune

Howdy Labtech767

My apologies I missed this message you left some time ago. TLR - was there any specific point you wanted to make or a specific question?

Regards

originally posted by: Hanslune

You left out that we should believe Posnansky was right,

No, he was wrong in his dating but not wrong in thinking that Tiwanaku was built from megalithic ruins more than 2000 years old.

that the Piri Reis map was made by aliens,

No. More careless reporting. The map is a composite based upon many maps drawn by a people who sailed the seven seas long before modern humans explored it. Instead of cracking jokes, how about coming up with a plausible explanation for how the shape of the continent on the Piri Reis map is accurate. Can't? Then it's ground-penetrating radar and aliens, I guess.

the Roman's just couldn't move heavy weights,

Wrong again. Of course the Romans could move heavy weights. Just not slabs of stone as heavy as those in the quarry of Baalbek, such as the 1000-tonne "Stone of the pregnant woman" and the two even heavier ones nearby. It's pure speculation that the Romans built the Temple of Jupiter on top of the enormous foundation stones. No evidence whatsoever, and an army of scholars who have argued against this absurd possibility for decades.

and guys with power drills were roaming around the Andes just before the Spaniards showed up doing good rock deeds for the locals. That Sitchin had a gift, and the Vatican has the secret for anti-gravity in their Library labeled 'stuff''.

"...roaming around the Andes just before the Spaniards showed up..."? Nah! You got even that wrong. Advocates of the ancient, high-technology theory propose that guys with power drills (and more) were roaming around the Andes THOUSANDS of years before the Spanish invasion.

If you are going to indulge in debunking easy targets, at least make the correct choice of targets. Otherwise, your sloppiness fatally reveals the weaknesses in your arguments,* you know....

* Which, of course, some of us have already known about for a long time.

originally posted by: micpsi

Sorry I didn't know you were so poorly educated - next time I'll put up a big sarcasm sign to guide you.

LOL

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
Nice post and interesting video.

One million years from now they will be finding vast piles of cell phones and looking at us as the ancients. Then they will realize we had no telepathy. Silly humans.

Maybe some people didn't have telepathy.

originally posted by: Blue Shift

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
Nice post and interesting video.

One million years from now they will be finding vast piles of cell phones and looking at us as the ancients. Then they will realize we had no telepathy. Silly humans.

Maybe some people didn't have telepathy.

aaahhh so what was my reply then?

originally posted by: Hanslune
AE=12 x 30 day months with a 5 day Intercalary, the Sumerian one was bit more complicated but 365 as was the Mayan.

Five day party.