Kicking around buying a pistol

a reply to: FlyingSquirrel

It was made to be an amendment to protect the future of the nation. They had no concept of and could not fathom the future 200+ years later, having the worlds most powerful military, the worlds best trained and equipped law enforcement, automatic guns etc.

You should read some history before making statements like that. What could be considered the first automatic weapon was designed nearly 100 years before the revolution and it had been well known that there was a drive to design multishot handheld artillery since the 14th century. They certainly understood the concept they were much wiser than people of today. The second amendment is what enforces all the other amendments. Without it, those who have held power and will hold power will work tirelessly to take all other rights away.

Look up Smedly Butler and the plot to overthrow the US government.

originally posted by: Grimpachi

You should read some history before making statements like that. What could be considered the first automatic weapon was designed nearly 100 years before the revolution and it had been well known that there was a drive to design multishot handheld artillery since the 14th century. They certainly understood the concept they were much wiser than people of today. The second amendment is what enforces all the other amendments. Without it, those who have held power and will hold power will work tirelessly to take all other rights away.

Look up Smedly Butler and the plot to overthrow the US government.

We should remember that they had no problem with the civilians to have the very best in their day as in equal power from military to civilian. Today we say there are some limits, but not much, such as old Biden saying all you need is a double barrel, lol the guys an idiot.



Also, the second is not about fighting foreign enemies.

originally posted by: MisterSpock
a reply to: ConfusedBrit

I realize how insensitive it must be for us mericans to be flagrantly dangling our rights in front of you brits.

Good reference though.

I hear pistols and alcohol are great companions .

a reply to: MisterSpock

I shot competition a several years ago. I shot the 1911 which was very accurate and the S&W 5906 which was a great 9mm pistol. I had Glocks and others but I carried the 5906 as with the proper ammo I never doubted it's stopping power and accuracy.
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I grew up with hard safeties so the Glock was never one of my favorites. But others swear by them

a reply to: MisterSpock

Last year, I bought a Walther Creed at a gun show--the price was right @225 dollars.

I normally don't care for 9mm, but this little guy is a good shooting pistol. I'm getting quite a lot of, literally, bang for the buck.

Walther stopped making it for some odd reason...

I have a friend who has an STI in .45, and he loves it. I've shot it, and it's sweet. A bit out of my current price range, but it seems to be well worth the money. Les Baer has good repute, as well.

originally posted by: MisterSpock
a reply to: ConfusedBrit

I realize how insensitive it must be for us mericans to be flagrantly dangling our rights in front of you brits.

Good reference though.

Fetish not rights.😎

Kicking around buying a pistol

Please do not kick it around after buying one..

Glock all the way...
I know where they are made.
And , they have a fabulous indoor range right there in the factory open to the public .
If one has a Glock.

originally posted by: MisterSpock
So my thinking is that the only 1911 I'll buy again will be the "best"(to me, with regard to setup, not brand).

I want a double stack gun, slide cut for a red dot, in 9mm(or 10mm). If there is anything else from any brand that hits the mark(I do want some features too, better trigger, grips, etc) I'd like to know.

So far the STI seems to be the only pick that doesn't go into the clouds with pricing(the sti is at the peak of what i'll pay for said gun and features).

Go have a peek at the Canik TP9SFX.

It's got all the requirements your after, shoots like a dream, dead reliable.

Cheap too. 750$ with a vortex viper on it.
It's not a 1911, but it's full size. 20+1 capacity, match barrel 5.5", 2.5-30 lb trigger, flared magwell, warren tactical iron sights with both red and green front insert, 2 sizes of palmswell inserts, 4 rmr mount plates, 3 mag release buttons, 2 mags, cleaning rods, tools, and case.

About 550 without the rmr, 650 with.
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Lifetime warranty.

a reply to: MisterSpock

You know? It's personal preference if you're going to carry...or not. I went from a S&W 357 Magnum-4" barrel....to a double stack Glock 30-45 ACP, smaller subcompact....to finally a very slim 9mm I carry everywhere.

All are deadly for self defense. I may carry the 45 out of town, or late at night...but that 9mm Slim is damn near invisible in my waistband.

Plus, it fits in my pocket, hoodie or suitcoat

a reply to: MisterSpock

Have you considered a FNX in 45 or 9? Polymer frame, but that is to drop the weight of a 15 round double stack 45 and make it a duty pistol instead of a range queen. Pricy if you want the extra bling though.

I've carried my 1911 LWC (Aluminum frame) since '84 and the WWII 1911 for almost a decade before that.
I guess I have a serious 45ACP bias (.22LR also), but ammo abounds, is relatively cheap & MILSURP is available.
Post-911 for a time I carried a pair of PT145s due to the mag capacity & obvious faster 'reload' time.
I like 45's and 22's, obviously for different reason$.

HOWEVER...

I've had not CQB rifle until I purchased the Kriss Vector (45ACP) which uses Glock mags.
Now I'm looking for a Glock30S (slim slide) to replace the 1911 and have interchangeable mags if needed.
Initially considered the long slide Glock41 better for "battle", but no carrying concealed - besides how likely is it I'm going to need a "battle gun".
The thinline (more like 1911) slide feels better holstered, almost as compact as the PT145, and can take the 30rd mags that I got for the Kriss!


ganjoa

Go Glock.

There's a myriad of upgradable parts and accessories that should keep you busy for a year or so.

I like firearms that keep you engaged and interested in the purchase.

By upgrading one thing at a time, it allows you, and should force you, to go out and at the very least practice with your weapon to see the difference in safety and function.

Glock and "Glock" derivative pistol(s) and parts, can make ownership a joy.

originally posted by: EternalShadow
Go Glock.

My latest toy, Glock 19x

originally posted by: Notoneofyou

originally posted by: MisterSpock
So my thinking is that the only 1911 I'll buy again will be the "best"(to me, with regard to setup, not brand).

I want a double stack gun, slide cut for a red dot, in 9mm(or 10mm). If there is anything else from any brand that hits the mark(I do want some features too, better trigger, grips, etc) I'd like to know.

So far the STI seems to be the only pick that doesn't go into the clouds with pricing(the sti is at the peak of what i'll pay for said gun and features).

Go have a peek at the Canik TP9SFX.

It's got all the requirements your after, shoots like a dream, dead reliable.

Cheap too. 750$ with a vortex viper on it.
It's not a 1911, but it's full size. 20+1 capacity, match barrel 5.5", 2.5-30 lb trigger, flared magwell, warren tactical iron sights with both red and green front insert, 2 sizes of palmswell inserts, 4 rmr mount plates, 3 mag release buttons, 2 mags, cleaning rods, tools, and case.

About 550 without the rmr, 650 with.
www.canikusa.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">www.canikusa.com...


Lifetime warranty.

I have one of those. It's a fantastic gun, especially for the money.

a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

Then you heard wrong.

a reply to: MisterSpock



Well, did you look at Jesse James' .45's?

Those are pretty damn nice.

Got some style too.

a reply to: MisterSpock

Well if money is on the table. No harm at looking at a Model 29 since you like wheel guns. Or 629 for that shiny Stainless Steel.

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: MisterSpock

Well if money is on the table. No harm at looking at a Model 29 since you like wheel guns. Or 629 for that shiny Stainless Steel.

I have a nice old(80's) 629 that's mint.

Couldn't pass it up, a classic.

I've heard good things about the s&w mp series, but I carry a ruger sr9c. It's trigger is very good out of the box. I do like sigs as well, and own a 226 but I stick with my sr9 for ccw. My sister got a kimber stainless, it's really small, not the most accurate at 20yards but great at 10 and less, where most confrontations take place. But a little pricey.