Teresa Heinz: Bush Win Suspicious

"Bush won, get over it."


Seems to me that it is the anti-Bush people who take offense from this. What is wrong with saying this? He did. So, what's your deal? He'll be gone in 4 years, so really, get over it.

Besides, THK is just sad that her and her beloved "freedom fighter" John didn't get that big, nice house. If I would say it to anyone, it would be them.

Get over it.



(I'm sorry, I had to say that to the anti-Bush clan out there =P )

-wD

Let her talk. Its too little too late. So much has been said about the left party's lack of spine (this particular couple), and rightfully so...WHERE WERE THEY WHEN IT COULD HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE?

Teresa, you belong in Hollywood.

Hush up.

I noticed the many long term members who are skeptical of electoral fraud's complete lack of response to this thread...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
You guys are a riot, you stamp about asking for proof of these accusations and confirmations of our suspicions, yet we lay the evidence in your laps, and you choose to rhetorically ignore it. Read the thread I linked to, educate yourselves a bit before you try to debunk anything here.

See thats whats wrong with americans now a days. They claim to have freedom of speech and have each others back but whenever somone uses this freedom they are called names and critcized. I admit Terrisa did blow a good bit of Kerry's campaign away but I also admit I find the bush victory a bit suspcious. I first hand witnessed election fraud to students here in Florida. They call us democrats sore losers but the repugs are crying like babies over whats happening in Washington. Make me laugh and I realize more and more how hypocritical republicans are.

Suspicious? Hahaha

Despite the inability for the "most powerful man in the world" to see more than two sides to an issue; I am neither for the Administration nor against it.

Bush has every every right to be in the white house; stolen election or not. The Neocons have every right to wage war on the world; legitimate or not. And each human on the planet has the right to follow along or not. It's free will, plain and simple.

If Bush has stolen two elections who cares? No one stopped him. No one stopped the war in Afghanistan or Iraq. Everyone just whines afterwards.

Instead of Red vs Blue I'm renaming to Gloaters vs Whiners.

Originally posted by ShadowHasNoSource
Suspicious? Hahaha

Despite the inability for the "most powerful man in the world" to see more than two sides to an issue; I am neither for the Administration nor against it.

Bush has every every right to be in the white house; stolen election or not. The Neocons have every right to wage war on the world; legitimate or not. And each human on the planet has the right to follow along or not. It's free will, plain and simple.

If Bush has stolen two elections who cares? No one stopped him. No one stopped the war in Afghanistan or Iraq. Everyone just whines afterwards.

Instead of Red vs Blue I'm renaming to Gloaters vs Whiners.

I totally agree with almost everything youve said. But im one that wants unity regardless of the way someone is republicans and democrats all alike. I was just making a point that republicans are hypocritical. I still find the bush victory as suspicious but there are to many stupid americans to do anything about it. IM not pissed Bush is in power just a little dissapointed.

And life goes on .......

Originally posted by AndrewTB
See thats whats wrong with americans now a days. They claim to have freedom of speech and have each others back but whenever somone uses this freedom they are called names and critcized. I admit Terrisa did blow a good bit of Kerry's campaign away but I also admit I find the bush victory a bit suspcious. I first hand witnessed election fraud to students here in Florida. They call us democrats sore losers but the repugs are crying like babies over whats happening in Washington. Make me laugh and I realize more and more how hypocritical republicans are.

That is what is great about free speech. You are free to say stupid things, but don't get angry when I use my free speech to say you are stupid.

Free Speech works both ways!

carseller4:

Bush won Florida by 380,978 votes
Bush won Ohio by 118,599

Kerry won New Hampshire by 9,274
Kerry won Wisconsin by 11,384
Kerry won Maine by 63,641
Kerry won Oregon by 76,332
Kerry won Minnesota by 98,319

Why is Ohio's 118,599 vote difference more controversial that Kerry's 5 wins by lesser margins?

How exactly does this prove no election fraud on the Bush side.

READ the link I put up, DECIDE for yourself after you've read the info. You'll be surprised.

jako

Originally posted by Jakomo
READ the link I put up, DECIDE for yourself after you've read the info. You'll be surprised.

jako

What amazes me is that someone that has there location as being in Canada is so out spoken and whines like an American democrat.

Get over it already no matter what your link says; they still lost and you will never change that.


(Starts passing out some cheese to go with the whine.)

Originally posted by shots

Originally posted by Jakomo
READ the link I put up, DECIDE for yourself after you've read the info. You'll be surprised.

jako

What amazes me is that someone that has there location as being in Canada is so out spoken and whines like an American democrat.

Get over it already no matter what your link says; they still lost and you will never change that.


(Starts passing out some cheese to go with the whine.)

One point for the Gloaters. Any Whiners wanna respond?

Teresa Hienz needs to come in out of the rain and contribute to her own reality check. She may have a bunch of money, but when it gets to the point where she is not really making an attempt to grasp reality, she needs a time-out in a nicely decorated and padded room. She is just pissed because her (Lying) husband lost and portraying a pitiful little girl who has lost fair and square, cannot come to terms. I would give her a Rx and tell her to start drinking heavily.

Originally posted by AndrewTB
..... but I also admit I find the bush victory a bit suspcious. I first hand witnessed election fraud to students here in Florida. They call us democrats sore losers but the repugs are crying like babies over whats happening in Washington. Make me laugh and I realize more and more how hypocritical republicans are.

As a Florida resident I can assure that we were a republican state this election, but I really want to hear the details of how you witnessed election fraud, maybe in another thread.

My beef with the democratic party is this, Democrats have been responsible for giving crackheads and junkies free money(welfare checks) and all they do is go out and use their free money to buy more drugs. While I do think Clinton helped reformed the system, it still has its problems listed above and word on the street was that some of Kerry's programs would make this more of a problem. This fact has been circulating around Republicans all through Florida(especially the red necks) and the issue really gets peoples blood boiling. No one wants their tax money to be used like that. You can call Republicans hypocrites all you want, we all are, but at least we dont have a record that gives crackheads free money for crack.

It doesn't bestrange me that a Canadian has to place a criticle note at your election process, after all, they have a pretty decent allmost boring record on elections.

I don't know about fraude, but I do know that there seldom have been a U.S president be able to divide a nation like this, what is the last time you heard whining about fraude by democrates or republicans about two consequitive elections in a row?

Did democrates whine about Bush Sr. , you betcha, did republicans whine about Clinton, yup, but I don't think that even the notion of widescale fraude was a matter of serious discussion at those times. Personally I go for two shallow victories of Bush, given by an American public seeking a major in wartime and democrates not be able to come up with a firm alternative, at least Bush has a plan, I think the plan sucks, but it has some direction, that's worth a lot in these confusing days

Whining and gloating aside, wich of you republicans would be outraged if somehow turned out to be rigged anyway?


[edit on 9-3-2005 by Countermeasures]

shots:

Get over it already no matter what your link says; they still lost and you will never change that.

So you're saying that even if the Bush team violated laws and illegally counted votes that didn't exist, it doesn't matter because they won?

Um, I guess I can't argue with that.

After all, how can one win an argument when the other person basically says

"I DON'T CARE WHAT THE FACTS SAY, I JUST CARE WHO WON"


Go go McDemocracy!

And yes, Canadian politics are boring. We poke fun at our politicians all the time and nobody ends up going to jail.

Some guy broke into former PM Jean Chretien's house while he was Prime Minister and Chretien fought the guy off with an Inuit wood carving.

Beat that!




jako

Originally posted by Jakomo

So you're saying that even if the Bush team violated laws and illegally counted votes that didn't exist, it doesn't matter because they won?

Um, I guess I can't argue with that.

jako

No one has proven that they illegally counted votes. Yes there were allegations of tampering but no one proved any in court.


On the other hand The Democrats also did some pretty nasty things and guess what? They where charged and arrested. I am talking about where the son of a high elected official (democrat) in Wisconsin slashed tires on vans rented by the Repluplican Party.

(passes out some more cheese, to go with your Candian whine; gloating big time)

[edit on 3/9/2005 by shots]

Delete accidental double post, sorry.

[edit on 3/9/2005 by shots]

Shots, you already used the cheese line. Adding "Canadian" only gives you a half a point. I would have given you 2 points on the first one if you said "you want government cheese to go with that cheap whine you bought with food stamps?".

I could easily prove that Bush stoled the second election. I need access to all Diebold paperwork, voting machines used and the programming that made them work. Then I'll need to review the logs for the election. Until I have access to that, the argument is moot.

Bush does have a mandate. The world gave it to him. They gave it to him by not doing anything. Leftist activists think they are saying something when they go walking around with signs. That only works when the protest is US government sponsored. Otherwise, you are cannon fodder. As long as they allow another "side" to the debate they can claim this a democracy. Which seems to give them carte blanche to spread this "democracy" like a bad case of genital herpes.

Those that voted against Bush get real. You seen 2000 and you thought if you sat around and waited things would get better? Nah, the whole thing doesn't make any sense and the arguments make even less.

Teresa needs to shut-up unless she is going to provide evidence to back up her idle "sucking up to the left" words.

If Bush was "appointed" first term and a president can be "elected" twice then doesn't that leave another term for Bush to be elected?

Go Bush, it's your mandate.

I'm going to have to agree with Dbates and JRod. This woman could not even keep her mouth shut during her husbands campaign, even when it was recommended by the Democratic affiliates. She needs to stay way way behind the scenes.

All politics aside, this woman is more of an a$$ than an asset.

[edit on 3/9/2005 by infinite8]

Originally posted by twitchy
I noticed the many long term members who are skeptical of electoral fraud's complete lack of response to this thread...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
You guys are a riot, you stamp about asking for proof of these accusations and confirmations of our suspicions, yet we lay the evidence in your laps, and you choose to rhetorically ignore it. Read the thread I linked to, educate yourselves a bit before you try to debunk anything here.

Ah let me guess, still none of you have bothered to read through the link I posted, let alone respond to the allegations supported by a great deal of research from a variety of sources. This is what's wrong with the electoral system, you guys just don't care as long as your would-be hero gets the good press out of it. Read the information, then shake your head and deny it, but for god's sake at least read the information. We aren't just whining about a lost election here you fools, we are calling attention to a very serious problem in our electoral system, and we aren't just pulling this information out of our arses. Three companies own the electoral process, and the american people aren't privy to the source codes that count our votes?! If that doesn't bother you, then you really are caught up in the game. READ THE LINK, then come and argue about how full of chit we are.

twitchy:

READ THE LINK, then come and argue about how full of chit we are

Now why would they do that when they can make lame jokes about Canadians and vague insults as to our intelligence?

The best way to not lose an argument is to deflect, and that's what it is.

Plus I don't think many of them have much of an attention span to peruse through a few pages of documented facts.