Christmas movie or not?

a reply to: Bigburgh

I'm calling shenanigans...

a reply to: Bluntone22
Why does it need to be one way or the other? If you don't want it to be an X-mas movie, then for you it isn't. If someone else does, then for them it is. I realize the whole country is drawing lines in the sand right now, but it doesn't have to be that way. That said...

It's a frickin action movie that happens at Christmas time. If you don't agree with me you're wrong!

originally posted by: Bluntone22
Tis the season to argue with family...so here we go.

Is die hard a Christmas movie?

I say no.
This movie hit the theaters on July 20th 1988..
I've heard of christmas in July but I don't think this is what they mean.
The plot could have taken place on the fourth of July or on Halloween and it wouldn't really change the movie.

Prometheus "the alien prequel" took place on Christmas and it's never mentioned as a christmas movie. Cuz it's not.

Sorry but no...
Shooting a bunch of armed criminals isn't exactly in the holiday spirit.

What say you?

Really, really

Forcing your opinions, your faith on what Christmas should or shouldn’t be, is or isn’t on me
Christmas is in December today, forced on us by the church, Jesus May have been born in July, nobody knows, the dates of the movies release May have coincided with the real date of Christ’s birth

The bad guy symbolised the grinch, how can you not see that, it’s obvious, if you numerology their names they have the 25/12 numbers in their I think, read believe heard but don’t know from where I heard it

Bruce killed lots of people, justice side of the narrative, God is about justice, well kinda
Bruce wins his wife back, restoration of relationship, that represents Christmas
Even the storyline reminds me of a family Christmas back home

Can’t you comprehend film narrative
Christmas music


Bruce was on holidays, probably even left his kid home alone, spin off material

Killed Hans and wrote “Now I have a gun”, ho ho, just like Santa would have done.

Bruce gave bad guys little leaden gifts

I could go on and on but to me, everything that happened in the Yakatomie building is the embodiment of Christmas

So a yes from me....I guess

a reply to: Klassified

Cuz this crap is important dammit!.....

It's as much a Christmas movie as Home Alone.

originally posted by: ketsuko
It's as much a Christmas movie as Home Alone.

Good analogy.

Home ALone took place at Christmas time just like Die Hard did.

originally posted by: ketsuko
It's as much a Christmas movie as Home Alone.

Good analogy.

Home ALone took place at Christmas time just like Die Hard did.

a reply to: opethPA

the story takes place at Christmas time but that doesnt make it a Christmas movie.

True.

Period.

I guess it boils down to: is there an ultimate Christmas message?

Home Alone has one. So does Elf, so does The Shop Around the Corner, etc. Hell, so does Bad Santa.

Does Die Hard have a Christmas...message?

Just because the setting is at Xmas doesn't make it an Xmas movie.

originally posted by: Liquesence
I guess it boils down to: is there an ultimate Christmas message?

Home Alone has one. So does Elf, so does The Shop Around the Corner, etc. Hell, so does Bad Santa.

Does Die Hard have a Christmas...message?

Just because the setting is at Xmas doesn't make it an Xmas movie.

Exactly right!

a reply to: Liquesence

It depends on what you think a Christmas message is. For me, I'd go with the religious traditional for a real Christmas movie, so almost nothing out there that is usually shown actually qualifies, and in that sense, Die Hard is as much Christmas movie to me as almost all the others since it is set at Christmas time.

a reply to: ketsuko

It depends on what you think a Christmas message is.

What do you think it is?

For me, I'd go with the religious traditional for a real Christmas movie

Which is? Baby Jesus? What is a "real" Christmas movie?

a reply to: ketsuko

Most of the traditional Christmas movies have a much broader definition of the Christmas message not just a religious one.
Anything dealing with Santa clause would considered a Christmas movie without a religious message.

Isn’t one man taking out a bunch of terrorists alone at Christmas time a Christmas Miracle?

Seeing Reginald VelJohnson without Urkel is also a miracle. Ho. Ho. Ho.

a reply to: Ahabstar

It was a miracle that all those experienced bank robbers couldn't manage to kill one cop but I don't think that is a Christmas miracle just an ordinary one.

Yea def

a reply to: Bluntone22

And no Urkel makes two, one more miracle and it is up for sainthood.

a reply to: Liquesence

Not so great on the reading comp tonight?

For me, I'd go with the religious traditional for a real Christmas movie,

I can't help it if you don't understand the religious traditional angle.



However, most movies don't take this approach, so Die Hard, being set at Christmas, qualifies as a Christmas movie as much as most others do. YMMV

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: ketsuko

Most of the traditional Christmas movies have a much broader definition of the Christmas message not just a religious one.
Anything dealing with Santa clause would considered a Christmas movie without a religious message.

You aren't getting it either. Since we aren't discussing what Christmas really is to me, but the secular, material notion of it, Die Hard is a Christmas movie just as much as any other as far as I'm concerned after all it is a totally material struggle being about robbery and all.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: Bigburgh

I'm calling shenanigans...

Lol..
"HARK HARK! HARK INDEED!!!"
A holiday parchment...