Politics now all about the Grand Solar Minimum

The Chinese have been watching the Sun for thousands of years,, they long ago made the connection between sunspot activity and climate on their growing zones, poor harvests caused civil unrest. Mabey the rest of the world is slowly catching on, as they move into Africa, buy a ninety year lease on the port of Darwin, all for extra food growing zones and the ability to move the food. One can look and smile as they undertake Chinese only communities in overseas countries some in previously arid zones with plenty of sunshine....but where's the water? apparently their will soon be plenty as the rain zones move to new semi permanent locations not used for the last few thousand years. Like Floods in Saudi for the third year running, same in the old Roman corn growing areas like Libya, not forgetting the South Western monsoon which starts in the Baja peninsular area and gives southern California a new wetter climate, like it did four thousand years back. What would you say if the Government said their will be a food shortage in as little as five years, the Government wont say that because it would be better to put things out which are the complete opposite and when its time to panic its to late. Oil might be an idea why so many troops are in the Middle East, but it could also be that as the rainfall increases food will be everything.

a reply to: anonentity

I also think we are going into a Grand Solar Minimum. The global warming hoax is about to be turned on its head in my opinion.

heres another good interview about it.

cant get the embed to work for some reason but heres a link. www.youtube.com...

Strangely I seem to think there is an element of truth in here somewhere
Not sure but worth considering

Climate changing?

Best case would be that they cancel each other out.

originally posted by: booyakasha
a reply to: anonentity

I also think we are going into a Grand Solar Minimum. The global warming hoax is about to be turned on its head in my opinion.

heres another good interview about it.

cant get the embed to work for some reason but heres a link. www.youtube.com...

Thanks!

Excellent video. over an hour long, but well worth my time!


That is what my dad, who is a 93 year old scientist has been telling me for some time now. He didn't know about the 2 different waves coming out of the sun causing it though, he did say it was the sun

Grand Solar Minimum?

No. Not yet. We won't know for sure by 2021-22. Solar maximum is supposed to be in mid 2023. I know for fact that this year sunspot is the lowest in last century. Cycle 24 is the lowest in last few cycles. I dont consider this as "Grand" yet. But, yeah, this is serious stuff if sunspots are disappearing. 2020-22 are gonna be interesting.

a reply to: visitedbythem

Here's her paper that was summited to Nature www.nature.com... I think she's being downbeat, what strikes me is in the last million years the Interglacials last for about ten thousand years. The whole Milankovitch cycle is a hundred thousand years, so most of the periods of the Cycle which is most of the time the earth is in a very much colder state than it is now. Its been about ten thousand years since the end of the last Ice Age, Most of the scientists say that at the moment we are in a warm position with a fairly circular orbit around the sun, but it has already been ten thousand years of very mild with regards to the Earths normal state. So one of these GSM's must act as a trigger, I can understand her not wanting to be alarmist, screaming "an Ice Age is coming" could be counterproductive, instead she says we have about five years to get ready. By the time the politicians have worked out what will suit them the best, that time will have passed. Its also worth mentioning that the infra structure of the modern age has never been tested for extreme conditions neither have we.

We are supposed to go into a grand solar minimum in this cycle or the next. I always thought that those actually caused a cooling of the earth and altered weather patterns, not global warming. Oh well, we got eighteen inches of heavy wet snow a couple of days ago, it was a nightmare. Our power was out for eighteen hours, my brothers was out for about thirty two hours I think, but we are lucky, we have power. Lots of trees and branches broke off everywhere. My yard and drive is a mess, a tree fell on my camper but I will not know how bad it was till after the storm tomorrow night, might as well wait to see if more trees go down, their branches are full of Ice and snow, really not a nice thing.

It happens every so often, but we had two bad years of damaging early winter heavy wet snow in a row now. I hate to see the damage of the trees on my land.

originally posted by: rickymouse
We are supposed to go into a grand solar minimum in this cycle or the next. I always thought that those actually caused a cooling of the earth and altered weather patterns, not global warming. Oh well, we got eighteen inches of heavy wet snow a couple of days ago, it was a nightmare. Our power was out for eighteen hours, my brothers was out for about thirty two hours I think, but we are lucky, we have power. Lots of trees and branches broke off everywhere. My yard and drive is a mess, a tree fell on my camper but I will not know how bad it was till after the storm tomorrow night, might as well wait to see if more trees go down, their branches are full of Ice and snow, really not a nice thing.

It happens every so often, but we had two bad years of damaging early winter heavy wet snow in a row now. I hate to see the damage of the trees on my land.

Im set up with generators, lots of fuel, battery bank, invertors, and plan on setting up a wind turbine soon. I also have at least 1000 lbs of food reserves

a reply to: visitedbythem

I have three generators, two are old, but they run and make energy. I probably have eight hundred pounds of food rotating in our pantry and freezers presently, including around twenty pounds of coffee at the present time. I even have fifteen pounds of butter and ten pounds of bacon in the freezer most times. Chocolate chip cookies and bacon are good to keep your attitude up.

I keep enough food so that if something happens, I have enough for my immediate family to survive about three months, two people maybe a year.

a reply to: visitedbythem
How much is 1000lb of food?
I think of my stored food in calories. lol

I have 120,000 calories of dry food. That's about 2k calories a day for one person for 3 months. A storage shed full of deep woods camping supplies.
Bunch of solar panels, battery banks.

A green house.
Tons of seeds.

I'm always adding to all this.
What I'm looking into currently is how to make ethanol.

originally posted by: rickymouse
a reply to: visitedbythem

I have three generators, two are old, but they run and make energy. I probably have eight hundred pounds of food rotating in our pantry and freezers presently, including around twenty pounds of coffee at the present time. I even have fifteen pounds of butter and ten pounds of bacon in the freezer most times. Chocolate chip cookies and bacon are good to keep your attitude up.

I keep enough food so that if something happens, I have enough for my immediate family to survive about three months, two people maybe a year.

Good job!

We actually have 5 generators . 3 are on our property in the mountains. 70 gallon of preserved gas ,along with another battery bank. I have 2 chest freezers almost over flowing, with angus steaks, pork steaks, all kinds of seafood... Shrimp, Alaskan king crab, salmon, sea scallops, steer head, halibut, Mahi Mahi, Ahi, lamb, many pounds of thick sliced bacon , vegetables and fruit. Well you get the picture. There are hundreds of pounds of Jasmine rice, assorted dry beans, and many types of pasta, and canned goods. I also grow vegetables year round. I think we could last a couple years minimum here

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: visitedbythem
How much is 1000lb of food?
I think of my stored food in calories. lol

I have 120,000 calories of dry food. That's about 2k calories a day for one person for 3 months. A storage shed full of deep woods camping supplies.
Bunch of solar panels, battery banks.

A green house.
Tons of seeds.

I'm always adding to all this.
What I'm looking into currently is how to make ethanol.

It takes up a large area in the garage. I also have about 25 lbs of assorted un roasted coffee beans, and 370 gallons of water, and carbon filters

There is also over 50 lbs of assorted grains, Large frozen packs of yeast, and a electric grain mill, that has a back up hand crank



and a 15 gallon brewery in my shop




Off to bed. You guys have a great night!

a reply to: scraedtosleep

I came across a good way to get ethanol where after the fermentation you add a load of salt to the mix, the salt binds with the water then sinks and leaves a layer of ethanol on the top to syphon off. You can then boil off the leavings and use the salt again. If you want to run an engine on it you just measure the Carb jet, then multiply it by 1.3 and bore it out with the right size drill.

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: rickymouse
a reply to: visitedbythem

I have three generators, two are old, but they run and make energy. I probably have eight hundred pounds of food rotating in our pantry and freezers presently, including around twenty pounds of coffee at the present time. I even have fifteen pounds of butter and ten pounds of bacon in the freezer most times. Chocolate chip cookies and bacon are good to keep your attitude up.

I keep enough food so that if something happens, I have enough for my immediate family to survive about three months, two people maybe a year.

Good job!

We actually have 5 generators . 3 are on our property in the mountains. 70 gallon of preserved gas ,along with another battery bank. I have 2 chest freezers almost over flowing, with angus steaks, pork steaks, all kinds of seafood... Shrimp, Alaskan king crab, salmon, sea scallops, steer head, halibut, Mahi Mahi, Ahi, lamb, many pounds of thick sliced bacon , vegetables and fruit. Well you get the picture. There are hundreds of pounds of Jasmine rice, assorted dry beans, and many types of pasta, and canned goods. I also grow vegetables year round. I think we could last a couple years minimum here

We have about a half a cow in our freezer, a nineteen cu.foot upright, and about six or seven chickens and a turkey and a bunch of fish and pork in the other nineteen cu.foot upright. We have our old third freezer ready to hookup for when we defrost the others temporarily, all are the kind that are not frost free. Most of our fish is local whitefish but we also have a sockeye salmon filet in there usually. We also have about seven packs of cod filets. None of the stuff like crab, shrimp, scallops or mahi mahi. If I want crab legs or shrimp we usually go to the chinese buffet. We have stocks of rice and beans, lots of pasta and sauces, and four shelving units in the basement full of canned goods that we use lots of. We keep everything rotated well and hardly ever have to throw things away. We also have about fifty bags of organic flour in stock because we make most of our own bread. We could easily go a month without even needing to go to the store, but then it would be expensive to restock so we constantly rotate.

a reply to: rickymouse

Theirs some weird things happening at the moment, instead of four jet streams we have two. During the last maximum which was smaller then the last, the Sun didn't have enough punch to keep the cosmic rays from hitting Earth.

Alot of info here, just go to the link.


www.thegrandsolarminimum.com...

a reply to: anonentity

Something big is happening that we have never witnessed in our current society. I am convinced the cycles are so far apart that the knockout event that is coming is at maybe the 6th or 7th event since Man first got a foothold on Earth that we have to crawl back out of it each time. I suspect the data that we see leaked here on ATS is suggestive of the fact the Oligarchs have found artifacts and are using them and the knowledge gained to game us all till the cataclysm they probably have a good feel for when too.

a reply to: anonentity

Sounds more believeable than the commonly accepted carbon caused climate change. We know this is happening, but the global warming people cannot make us pay money for something they have no way of fixing. So they want us to give them money for something that is not real....some people are lining their pockets.