LED Street Lights – A War Weapon?

a reply to: stonerwilliam

as you believe it is " feasible " present your costings

today - northern UK had < 8 hours daylight [ sunrise >> sunset ]

thats 16 hours darkness

specs for LED arrays are availiable -- dito batteries and PV cell panells

present how you are going to achieve this

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: beyondknowledge
The wire size is less important than Mark Steele bringing it up then not explaining the significance of it. Is it thicker wire for more power or thicker insulation for higher voltage? What does this actually mean other than more power? He does not explain this.

“Look, big wires bad. Fear big wires. Big wires power antanna thing.” Is what I get from his video. This is not a good explanation of the device and how it is bad.

He is saying it is not needed to power low voltage LEDs.

So what is it for anyway?

Thick wires are used because they are cheap to produce (the machinery to produce them is so common that the operational costs are negligable), they are robust so that they can get hot or cold or flex in the wind without breaking, and they can be installed in a rush by any idiot without fear of them being damaged.

There is nothing unusual here. In fact they're not all that different from the old ones. Many of the components are just newer a version of the same old things.

Oh!

Its a wonder they didn't use thick wires through out the light eh?

PS I work at a wire mill.......

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: stonerwilliam

as you believe it is " feasible " present your costings

today - northern UK had < 8 hours daylight [ sunrise >> sunset ]

thats 16 hours darkness

specs for LED arrays are availiable -- dito batteries and PV cell panells

present how you are going to achieve this

They figured this out a long time ago www.rexresearch.com...
The tightness of this NORTHERNER made a Yorkshire man laugh ,
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www.sciencedaily.com...
I am unable to upload pictures from my computer to here something to do with a ad blocker ?

The pictures with the telegraph poles with a U and no wires near them , stubblefield and others figured it all long ago , we just forgot it

a reply to: stonerwilliam

pathetic deflection is pathetic

you claimed that a battery and PV panel would power a streetlight cheaper than mains electric

specs and costs please

as an alternative - you could demonstrate a working model of this " earth battery "

your choice

a reply to: ignorant_ape

you claimed that a battery and PV panel would power a streetlight cheaper than mains electric ?

It is already being done in Africa , they use a scaffolding pole cemented in to the ground to reduce cost

300000mAh 20 LED Solar Power Bank Portable Dual USB Battery Charger on Ebay uk is 327 English pennies with some 18650 or a 6volt bike battery for much cheapness .

Nathan Stubblefield performed the "impossible": he developed, tested, demonstrated, and established a small, democratic telephone service which did not require wire lines at all! His system utilized the ground itself as the conductive medium.

This is so 10 years ago Tech , The uk gov were rumoured to have purchased over 50 of these but that seems to have vanished but it was announced lately that drones will be used to look for missing people , And there is plenty of them around

www.youtube.com...

a reply to: stonerwilliam

the UK is not africa .

and your " 300000 mah " solar panel - ROLFLMAO

you really believe chines spec claims ??????????????

thats 300 amps

FFS

now specs and costs - using real figures

Got a friend who replaces street lighting for a living and the wiring is pretty much the same as it was decades ago other than adjusting for imperial->metric and its reasonably thick to protect it underground from the joint to the control circuitry and the stuff going up the pole is reasonable thickness to make it easy to work with.

Thicker wires lower resistance which gets turned into heat which can cause melting and all sorts of fun and games and also if some idiot in a JCB starts digging without checking the plans theres more chance of it surviving than suddenly arcing and having to get a crew out to make it safe.

Street lighting generally is on a 25 year rotating replacement scheme so its designed pretty much to be fit and forget other than for drunk drivers and the older concrete ones are being done first as they're a lot more dangerous in a crash as the new metal ones are designed to crumple not just stop the car and passengers dead.

you don't buy the cheapest you buy the most dependable that cost less.

Is it even 5G? If it's a simple wifi connection to control them then it would make sense. Unless the cell companies are running fiber or fast ethernet to each light pole then I doubt it's actually 5G. If it's a mesh network then I suppose the extra wires in the antenna are used for receiving and sending.

I believe the guy in the video refers to the weaponry as being able to cause cancer.

a reply to: staple

The simplest arrangement would be a cellphone type interface with 5G capability and backward compatible with 4G and 3G so it will work pretty much anywhere with a workable cellphone signal. The antenna provides better reliability in the worst conditions affecting signal strength.

It could be as easy as an SMS system with the ability for the light fitting to reply with diagnostics like fault reporting.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: visitedbythem
He is saying it is not needed to power low voltage LEDs.



So what is it for anyway?

LEDs aren't directly powered in that unit, there's a driver.

Yes normally leds run off battery backup that’s plugged into
High voltage.However I have wired bigger led flood lamps that run off normal to 110 “American standard”. These street style lamps I don’t remember as I don’t do a lot of them.

Wish I could remember what wire we used.

I know we used 14-2 for the speakers, cat 6 for the cams, 18-2 for the strobe, Romex for the flood lights ps this is all on the same pole, cat 6for gunshot detector, cat 6 plus 18-2 for the PTZ camera.

I think it was 18-6 we used for the street led.

If you are wondering what 18-2, 14-2 or 18-6 it’s the gage of the wire first plus how many wires are in the cable.

Romex is 12 AWG if I’m not mistaken, it has 3 wires red,black,Green or white.

Cat 6 has 4 pairs-orange,blue,green,brown much smaller AWG

a reply to: Maxatoria

Thicker wires lower resistance which gets turned into heat which can cause melting and all sorts of fun and games

electricity like water follows the least path of resistance. larger gauge wire, allows better flow. if you ever buy a corded power tool read the instruction. they tell you to run the largest gauge for the shortest distance or at the rated load most just about all say don't go over 50 ft.

here is the dewalt recommendation for their corded tools.it's in all their instruction manuals.



and here is a simple test you can preform. take 2 100' extinction cords,one 18 gauge one 14 gauge. put a 15 amp load on them and see which heats up first. the 18 gauge will.

if the lights are all fed off the same line, they will use the largest gauge for the load.

ETA: i should have mentioned voltage drop, if the load is to large for the gauge wire the voltage will drop and cause a higher amp/wattage draw which in turn will cause overheating

a reply to: stonerwilliam

These devices look like street lights but they are on all day and when they emit 5g they attract flying insects (pollinators) and fry them all.

On all day? Really?

Lights do tend to attract insects. But, really?

That's awesome. Way better than an old fashioned bug zapper.

Which brings us to the electric meters at our houses.....we got a super dooper newest one......they had to come out to see why the meter wouldn't reach base but found whered I h ad put a metal pan over it.....they lectured the lady next over and she said a chicken must have done it.....he he

.I told her I was checking fo r a d ifference.....they broke out a real new one and s slammed it in.....at the ranch the meter is 120 yards away....I like that idea......I

But we needed a better way that old skinny 69 year old dude walking the city yard to yard......talked to him once....my....the dogs

a reply to: GBP/JPY

I spent V-day clearing some Areca palms that were blocking the meter reader's view.

Damn things spread. And I'm getting too old for that kind of work.

Gonna cut 'em all down before I can't.

originally posted by: Veryolduser
Yes normally leds run off battery backup that’s plugged into

A battery backup is different from a driver, a driver controls the input voltage so you don't overpower the LEDs.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

lot's of people don't understand that led's are usually low voltage dc. and that the voltage to them has to be lowered through some sort of device. even the led bulbs that you use in your home have them.

here are 2 quick simple explanations.
LED Drivers: What Are They And Which Do I Need?

How do LED light bulbs work?

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Yeah. I used to work for the largest LED manufacturer in the world so to say I have a bit of a grasp on the subject is putting it lightly.

FYI Found this today

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