China has a much larger worry than the USA!

That's right. The 1 Billion manpower strong economy of educated/technical people willing to work on the cheap and manufacture electronic goods with little safety regulation has a looming problem. Their workforce wants more money. They want a larger middle class. (Which I'm totally fine with)

See, China does not want to make America angry. Not even in the slightest. They want to be America's best friend, and as quickly as possible.

Why? What is this logic?

It's very simple. The most profitable market in the world is #1 USA and #2 Europe. And both of those markets have begun to shift manufacturing to another billion manpower strong economy of educated/technical people willing to work on the cheap.

India is the greatest threat to the sustained wealth and economic growth of China.

For those of you here old enough to remember the 1980's, who was the economic threat that was 100% going to take over the earth? You can see its' influence even in futuristic movies of the 1980's. Blade Runner and Alien franchises have a future where Japan was the dominant economy of the world. How well did that pan out?

China is today's Japan. India is tomorrow's China. The USA will not be affected one way or the other. The dye is set.

I remember Andrew Dice Clay remarking about the strength of the Japanese economy back in the 80's:

He said, during a stand up, "Didn't we bomb them a while back? What was in those bombs? Tape recorders???!"

😂😂

As to the OP, you're optimism, while misplaced, is interesting. You do realize that China, India, Russia, are looking forward to the inevitable collapse of the Petro Dollar, with China looking to replace it with a gold backed yuan. These nations are steadily increasing their physical holdings in gold. Even selling off Treasuries too and putting that into gold.

The US economy is a complete disaster, and these nations know it's just a matter of time.

originally posted by: FingerMan

China is today's Japan. India is tomorrow's China. The USA will not be affected one way or the other. The dye is set.

Japan is a little different to China
China need to produce economical growth for communism to stay the reigning political power
China need an economy producing at about 7% to keep their millions and millions content

If their is another Tiananmen Square
, because people are not happy with communism, it might become nationwide so making money, keeping people happy is very important

The US are controlling vast wealth, a war is good for the population.
Middle Eastern oil is pretty profitable.

Discount China, that’s pretty silly

a reply to: EternalShadow

I am nowhere clever enough in regards to economics but I love the dice clay reference, bring me some Adventures of Ford Fairlane that I understand

Hong Kong police are using live bullets on the protesters today. Do you guys have access to the videos?

China is moving into India and Africa. Yes, the Chinese on the east coast of China are mostly well to do, but if you go inwards west, hmm... bring your own toilet paper with you.

a reply to: musicismagic

China took a page from the book of their enemy. They saw how well it worked for their enemy.

They are taking over the lands that benefits them strategically, and allows them cheaper production of their products.

Patience and time is all it takes, because we are doing the rest.

Just as planned.

a reply to: FingerMan

China is not worried about making U.S.A. angry over anything.They
probably have dreams of carving up our country like a Thanksgiving
turkey!

a reply to: FingerMan

Part of your premise is correct, other parts are not.

China has already begun shifting production to countries like Vietnam, Thailand and Malaysia as the number one consumer economy is poised to be China in the near future.

a reply to: EternalShadow

are looking forward to the inevitable collapse of the Petro Dollar

I have heard that for nigh on 50 years now .
Getting a little frayed around the edges , it is.

originally posted by: EternalShadow
...with China looking to replace it with a gold backed yuan.

There isn't enough gold on the planet to come even remotely close to doing that.

If their slow and steady communist engine ever makes it there, evolving on the way, someday..

They'll be the unfortunate #1 superpower by far. It's their population density. That amount of population could never succeed in that part of the world with a western style democracy. Maybe when they've already advanced quite a ways from now but also consider the culture and what its been for thousands of years.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Better than option two which is beginning to show it's TRUE colors to the rest of the world..

That being the worthless dollar backed by nothing, and the endless printing of itself to prop up a the markets artificially.

Of course that will last.🙄

originally posted by: EternalShadow
Better than option two which is beginning to show it's TRUE colors to the rest of the world..

That being the worthless dollar backed by nothing, and the endless printing of itself to prop up a the markets artificially.

How can something that is not possible be better?

a reply to: Gothmog

Not so much. The whole scheme wasn't thought out by idiots. Longevity and sustainability for as long as possible to gobble up as much REAL, tangible wealth as possible.

The Federal Reserve bankrupted the US by "eating too fast" between its inception and the crash of '32.

The crash they caused it, and adjustments were made.

Ever hear the story about the Papa bull and the baby bull standing on a hill overlooking the cows?

Same concept.

It's all been a ruse to own and control everything for as long as possible, leaving the People with nothing but a hollowed out carcass that used to be a country.

50 years, huh? I'll bet you a billion oil backed dollars it won't last another 10, ...if that.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Read my last response to you again.

Which is better for you, the economy and the rest of the world?

A flim-flam Ponzi scheme, or a fair and balanced economy/market?

a reply to: EternalShadow

I'll take the US dollar over something that isn't possible.

China has a huge problem... Debt, some have placed their level of debt above ours here in the states.

At first glance it doesn't appear that way, but when you remember the Govt owns all or part of almost every major home grown company in china then those companies debt has to be figured into the numbers and it isn't pretty.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

That's very well thought out.

Good luck.

ETA: The Fed has lowered rates 3 TIMES just this year! You can expect 0% interest rates by election 2020 at this pace. The Fed "printed" 161.7 billion dollars last week of September to accommodate the market.

IN ONE WEEK.

Welcome to QE 4.

If you can't see it for what it is, again, good luck.

originally posted by: EternalShadow
That's very well thought out.

It was since it's an established fact that there isn't enough gold to back the yuan even if what you mentioned was being considered, which it isn't. But feel free to put some facts up.